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June 25, 2017, 09:30:58 AM
#26
i worked near minimum wage for years having zero quality of life as i saved up money, learned amazon and affiliate marketing, set up a few businesses with an american guy and we're going to do about 1.5 million profit this year between us, next year it will be a lot more because we reinvest everything. about 1/3 of our money gets taken away from us in taxes until we figure out how to go offshore.

my colleagues from my old job, many of whom i still speak to, earned the same money as me but chose to spend it on their social lives, drinking, vacationing abroad and the usual temporal nonsense. they are all net zero tax contributors, meaning the £1.5k or so they pay in income tax doesn't nearly cover the cost of the housing benefit, healthcare and other government services they consume

moral of the story is nobody owes you shit. make better decisions in your life if you want to have more stuff.

Well good for you. I guess time is also a factor. Your live suck now but it would be better later if you do so and so. Either you dance around like a cricket or start hoarding food for winter. Of course this is assuming you'd live long enough to enjoy the fruits of your labor. Life can be quite fickle.

The only issue I'd be having with this statement is that if a person is poor, not working, using welfare programs or even abusing welfare programs, they SHOULDN'T be using these sort of luxuries. I know I may be contradicting what was written, but in all honesty you should be making the smart decision for yourself and for your family to be using that money in the right way and not WASTING it on these sort of things.

I know I'm going to be called out for playing into what this tweet is saying is the worst, but you could get a much higher BANG for your BUCK for coffee if you don't go to starbucks, or do this, or do that. So, that's just my two cents.



A few small luxuries every now and then is fine but Starbucks is ridiculous, especially for third worlders. I see people who live on debt spend their time their to look like they got money.
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June 25, 2017, 08:32:08 AM
#25
Welcome to our world.Equality maybe sounds good but I think it's an utopia.In fact over the 50% of world's wealth belongs to the 1% of people.I have no more words.
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June 25, 2017, 06:43:59 AM
#24
The game of life is a cruel one some people will have success others will fail.

Sometimes the only thing that makes a difference between the crucial line of failure and success is a persons determination appetite and hunger to succeed and not stay stuck in a rut. As they say

Opportunity will only knock at your door three times, so when it comes along be sure to grab it. Learn to listen to the voice inside, to the preacher, to the voice from your granddaughter, the beggar on the corner of the street.  Wisdom can come from many different directions.

Another proverb:
In Chinese, Confucius says there is one teacher among three people who walk with you. If three people walk with you, there is always one that can be your teacher. What does that mean? In our life no one is super, no one is perfect. We always have at least one mentor, someone in our life who can give us some guidance, wisdom, lessons. We learn from each other. Earlier in our life our parents are our first mentor and teacher, later our teachers, later some wise men and wise women are our mentors, then we find some spiritual teachers who also serves as a spiritual mentor.

To achieve one must read and hunger it's that struggle that makes success beautiful, others may chance upon a stroke of good fortune but it may not last long if they are naive about it think the lotto winners.

Anyways advice for the day.

There are some people whose door were never knocked by opportunity, sometimes the very place you are born into already determines your fate in life, no matter how determined you are it's not gonna work out at all.
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June 25, 2017, 05:36:52 AM
#23
many of them already start up a foundation to help poor people, but there are so many people that need helps maybe too many that the donation cant reach all of them and we just advice and suggest that rich people should give some to the poor but it is not an obligation for them to do so, it is up to them what they want to do with their money
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June 25, 2017, 01:22:14 AM
#22
The game of life is a cruel one some people will have success others will fail.

Sometimes the only thing that makes a difference between the crucial line of failure and success is a persons determination appetite and hunger to succeed and not stay stuck in a rut. As they say

Opportunity will only knock at your door three times, so when it comes along be sure to grab it. Learn to listen to the voice inside, to the preacher, to the voice from your granddaughter, the beggar on the corner of the street.  Wisdom can come from many different directions.

Another proverb:
In Chinese, Confucius says there is one teacher among three people who walk with you. If three people walk with you, there is always one that can be your teacher. What does that mean? In our life no one is super, no one is perfect. We always have at least one mentor, someone in our life who can give us some guidance, wisdom, lessons. We learn from each other. Earlier in our life our parents are our first mentor and teacher, later our teachers, later some wise men and wise women are our mentors, then we find some spiritual teachers who also serves as a spiritual mentor.

To achieve one must read and hunger it's that struggle that makes success beautiful, others may chance upon a stroke of good fortune but it may not last long if they are naive about it think the lotto winners.

Anyways advice for the day.
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June 25, 2017, 12:37:25 AM
#21
The rich can spend money in whatever way they want. It is their choice. Don't forget the fact that in most of the countries, the super-rich are paying more than 60% of their income in taxes (in France it used to be 75%).
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June 24, 2017, 04:42:30 PM
#20
Go for it!
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June 24, 2017, 04:27:20 PM
#19
The only issue I'd be having with this statement is that if a person is poor, not working, using welfare programs or even abusing welfare programs, they SHOULDN'T be using these sort of luxuries. I know I may be contradicting what was written, but in all honesty you should be making the smart decision for yourself and for your family to be using that money in the right way and not WASTING it on these sort of things.

I know I'm going to be called out for playing into what this tweet is saying is the worst, but you could get a much higher BANG for your BUCK for coffee if you don't go to starbucks, or do this, or do that. So, that's just my two cents.

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June 24, 2017, 02:44:42 PM
#18
Inequality is the name of the game, the bane of human existence. Haven't you noticed that it was always like that?
In the past, society was fragmented as well, we had peasants, slaves and working class and nobility, kings, emperors to rule.
Today we have these 'rich fucks' who had taken the place of nobility. If social unrest will continue to rise then we will have a revolution in the future.
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June 24, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
#17
The rich in my own opinion should give back to the society to the extent of what they can afford, not out of compulsion but out if free will.
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June 24, 2017, 01:59:01 PM
#16
In as much as there is no moral justification for mocking the poor but that does not mean the rich owe them anything as well. Quite a number of people have come from the most backward place of the society but they ended making names for themselves and thereby liberate their entire household without any limitation whatsoever. So the rich should give to the poor but the poor should also strive to live that position they so much hold dear.
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June 24, 2017, 12:28:31 PM
#15

I agree with you BUT i don't
because as long as they done everything legal  IT'S THERE MONEY do what they likes..

It's the POLITICIANS who let these peoples get away with murder for BACKHANDERS lots and lots of them ..
Yes they do speeches even though they got sacked for doing a shit job they get payed millions or 100s of thousand for speeches
I.E the favours they done for a company that's the BACKHANDERS ..Oh he done a speech  Cheesy WHAT for 600K some fucking speech..

And the person got sacked or lost ..
But the firm never lost who they done the speech for though..

So if you think about it IF you make good cakes and sell them at a profit to millions or billions of people then you deserve to be rich and do whats
you likes IT'S YOUR MONEY and good luck to you..And people like this YOU SHOULD NEVER BE JEALOUS OF..

I mean the same with TECHNOLOGY it's like baking good cakes ..
Anything you make is your right to be rich ..

BUT what's not right if your making billions millions and fiddle taxes and pay politicians to give TAX BREAKS or pay to get a CONTRACT ..

Then yes i am JEALOUS because they are robbing our FUTURE CHILDREN out of healthcare schools nice areas to live in and nice clean streets
We all deserve to live like this EVERYONE..

So i am not jealous of the SUPER RICH because some are really nice people BUT some are RATS and would destroy this planet for a BUCK OR 2 Angry.

When it's not there PLANET it belongs to our future CHILDREN..
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June 24, 2017, 12:06:25 PM
#14
i worked near minimum wage for years having zero quality of life as i saved up money, learned amazon and affiliate marketing, set up a few businesses with an american guy and we're going to do about 1.5 million profit this year between us, next year it will be a lot more because we reinvest everything. about 1/3 of our money gets taken away from us in taxes until we figure out how to go offshore.

my colleagues from my old job, many of whom i still speak to, earned the same money as me but chose to spend it on their social lives, drinking, vacationing abroad and the usual temporal nonsense. they are all net zero tax contributors, meaning the £1.5k or so they pay in income tax doesn't nearly cover the cost of the housing benefit, healthcare and other government services they consume

moral of the story is nobody owes you shit. make better decisions in your life if you want to have more stuff.
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June 24, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
#13
It seems that the world is just going back to the way it was, when wealth was concentrated in the hands of the few. I've even heard some people point out that the increase in economic "equality" before was an anomaly and just a result of wars that somehow setback the rich.

Problem now is that with globalization, you can't just pick on them and say "hey, we want you to pay higher taxes". They can just move elsewhere. Same for private individuals, I believe some move to other countries to avoid the estate tax, etc.
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June 23, 2017, 02:06:19 PM
#12
I think the Rich dude deserves to live anyway that he likes as long as his or her style of living doesnt kill anyone. Its not his duty to give money to the less fortunate in society.

The point is that money is limited...

For example... let's say there is a total of $1,000,000 on the planet...

If one person takes $500,000, and another takes $250,000, and a third takes $125,000... 3 people now control 88% of all the money on the planet... leaving the other 7,500,000,000 people to fight over the remaining $125,000 (anyone see Hunger Games?)

This is the current situation... 5 people control HALF the wealth on the PLANET

it's the hoarding of money that screws poor people

When one person has so much money they can shit on a solid gold toilet... and an entire country (Yemen) is starving to death because they can't afford to buy food to feed their children... something is FUCKED UP

It's like the new American health care bill the republicans are trying to pass... it will kick 23,000,000 people off health insurance, more than double the insurance costs for elderly and people with pre-existing conditions (which they can't afford so they will die)... only to give a tax break of $500,000,000,000 to rich fucks who don't need the money

This health care bill WILL kill people for money... period... that's all it is... it's a tax break for rich fucks and people will die because of it... this is what happens when you let greedy fucks have all the money... they only want more money, and don't care who they kill to get it

This is a serious fucking problem

Is money really limited, it is very true that Bill Gates and the rest have half the wealth of the entire world, But he is doing a very good humanitarian job with his foundation, remember he donated half of his wealth some time ago to help the poor and he is doing a great job at that if only the other wealthy guys would follow suit, thats going to be good for the entire world because they aint gonna take the money to their graves when they die.

Money is limitless, if you can have a good idea that people are willing to pay for, you can have all the money you want. The problem with the situation today is that the accumulation of wealth has made the playing field quite uneven. It's fine if they'll play fair but no, you see them doing hostile takeovers, killing off competition that won't agree to a buy out, and lobbying for preferential treatment.

Money is limited... not by numbers, but by value/buying power

You can always create more money, but it devalues the money which is already in circulation...

If there is $1,000,000,000 in the whole world... a cheeseburger might costs $1... but if the money supply doubled, so would the cost of a cheeseburger...
If there is $10,000,000,000, a cheeseburger would cost $10... that's just how it works

It's not about the amount of dollars you have, it's about the % of the total you own

If 5 people hoard 50% of the money... the rest of the 7,500,000,000 people have to fight over the other 50% (but prices are double because half of the money supply is being hoarded)... and since prices are double, it hurts poor people the most, who spend their entire income just to provide food for their families... food they buy from the rich people, making them even richer

It's a vicious cycle... which is normally solved by high taxes on the rich... but here in 'Murica, the effective tax rate on wealthy has dropped from 35% to 15% since 1980... wealthy people have stopped paying taxes (like Donald Drumphf)
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June 23, 2017, 01:55:08 PM
#11
Money is limitless, if you can have a good idea that people are willing to pay for, you can have all the money you want. The problem with the situation today is that the accumulation of wealth has made the playing field quite uneven. It's fine if they'll play fair but no, you see them doing hostile takeovers, killing off competition that won't agree to a buy out, and lobbying for preferential treatment.
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June 23, 2017, 01:40:15 PM
#10
I think the Rich dude deserves to live anyway that he likes as long as his or her style of living doesnt kill anyone. Its not his duty to give money to the less fortunate in society.

The point is that money is limited...

For example... let's say there is a total of $1,000,000 on the planet...

If one person takes $500,000, and another takes $250,000, and a third takes $125,000... 3 people now control 88% of all the money on the planet... leaving the other 7,500,000,000 people to fight over the remaining $125,000 (anyone see Hunger Games?)

This is the current situation... 5 people control HALF the wealth on the PLANET

it's the hoarding of money that screws poor people

When one person has so much money they can shit on a solid gold toilet... and an entire country (Yemen) is starving to death because they can't afford to buy food to feed their children... something is FUCKED UP

It's like the new American health care bill the republicans are trying to pass... it will kick 23,000,000 people off health insurance, more than double the insurance costs for elderly and people with pre-existing conditions (which they can't afford so they will die)... only to give a tax break of $500,000,000,000 to rich fucks who don't need the money

This health care bill WILL kill people for money... period... that's all it is... it's a tax break for rich fucks and people will die because of it... this is what happens when you let greedy fucks have all the money... they only want more money, and don't care who they kill to get it

This is a serious fucking problem

Is money really limited, it is very true that Bill Gates and the rest have half the wealth of the entire world, But he is doing a very good humanitarian job with his foundation, remember he donated half of his wealth some time ago to help the poor and he is doing a great job at that if only the other wealthy guys would follow suit, thats going to be good for the entire world because they aint gonna take the money to their graves when they die.
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June 23, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
#9
I think the Rich dude deserves to live anyway that he likes as long as his or her style of living doesnt kill anyone. Its not his duty to give money to the less fortunate in society.

The point is that money is limited...

For example... let's say there is a total of $1,000,000 on the planet...

If one person takes $500,000, and another takes $250,000, and a third takes $125,000... 3 people now control 88% of all the money on the planet... leaving the other 7,500,000,000 people to fight over the remaining $125,000 (anyone see Hunger Games?)

This is the current situation... 5 people control HALF the wealth on the PLANET

it's the hoarding of money that screws poor people

When one person has so much money they can shit on a solid gold toilet... and an entire country (Yemen) is starving to death because they can't afford to buy food to feed their children... something is FUCKED UP

It's like the new American health care bill the republicans are trying to pass... it will kick 23,000,000 people off health insurance, more than double the insurance costs for elderly and people with pre-existing conditions (which they can't afford so they will die)... only to give a tax break of $500,000,000,000 to rich fucks who don't need the money

This health care bill WILL kill people for money... period... that's all it is... it's a tax break for rich fucks and people will die because of it... this is what happens when you let greedy fucks have all the money... they only want more money, and don't care who they kill to get it

This is a serious fucking problem
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June 23, 2017, 12:53:05 PM
#8
I think the Rich dude deserves to live anyway that he likes as long as his or her style of living doesnt kill anyone. Its not his duty to give money to the less fortunate in society.
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June 23, 2017, 12:01:10 PM
#7
The times when people shame poor people for spending on luxuries like Starbucks or (second hand) designer hand bags is when those poor people cry about not having enough money, cry about the wealthy needing to pay their fair share, or ask for handouts.

The wealthy have money, they should be able to spend it on whatever they want! And everyone else should welcome that spending because it allows the wealthy person's money to reenter the system to be distributed to business taxes, payroll income, and federal and local aid for those who are truly in need.

The energy of the people should be spent on trying to make the system more fair - which means if you work hard and earn money you should get to keep a lot of it, and if you live an honest life and need financial help you should have access to it.
Rich people also are different. Steve jobs was always modest. I believe that those rich people who flaunt their luxurious lifestyle are not only cultural, but also intentionally cause a division in society. They are radicalizing infused in society and we see then the revolution.
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