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February 10, 2016, 11:50:31 AM
#45
You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 10:18:41 AM
#44
I suffer total Odontophobia, and my balls shrivel up when I enter his rooms. I have had some pretty bad experiences as a kid and to this day, I panic

when I get close to them. How do you talk to a dentist, with a gaping mouth full of tools? gha ng ga ga..  Grin Grin ... Anyone know what the Budapest

regulations are like towards Bitcoin? In some countries you can own bitcoin, but you not allowed to accept it as a currency.
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February 10, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
#43
Firstly, your dentist should have some time to listen your words (about bitcoin). And you need some some effort to explain him because. Because, AFAIK they're not aware in new technologies other than medical equipments.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
#42
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just a bit info about dentists. Belgrade is a bit more south ( around 300 km) and probably have twice chipeaper dentists, maybe even more depends from where. Usually people from EU come here with buses ( if u can believe) and all of them repair their theets here. In Serbia u can pay with euros, dollars..

Nice to know, thanks for info. I'll stick to my dentist in Budapest though, all appointments are already made. Besides Budapest is a cool place. I'm happy to travel there. I know they accept cash, cards, bank wires, Forints and Euros, so I'll just try to extend the payments option list to BTC.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:39:41 AM
#41
LOL dentists! Totally sweated out my appointment with one of them.

Enough time to leisure a sweet tooth on tasty nibbles in the meantime.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:38:23 AM
#40
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily

Every medical professional is in the register of physicians but do you know that private practices can charge whatever they want and if the OP won't use his health insurance he could be charged whatever amount it's agreed upon and the register pf physicians as you mentioned doesn't know what you do in your private practice.

yeah they could but you need to find the right doctor that want to do that, many are ethical and avoid possible future trouble, when they need to declare all their income

since they "play" with large amount of money, it is easy for them to evade and they are more controlled than other
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February 10, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
#39
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

I wont be leading the way because I report all of my income, even the cryprocurrency related income I could easily lie about.

Just because you think youll never get caught doesn't make it ok to lie on your tax return.

You can say whatever you like over the Internet but I don't believe you for one second that you actually disclose your crypto operations to the authorities.
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February 10, 2016, 08:32:59 AM
#38
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily

Every medical professional is in the register of physicians but do you know that private practices can charge whatever they want and if the OP won't use his health insurance he could be charged whatever amount it's agreed upon and the register pf physicians as you mentioned doesn't know what you do in your private practice.
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February 10, 2016, 08:31:03 AM
#37
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

I wont be leading the way because I report all of my income, even the cryprocurrency related income I could easily lie about.

Just because you think youll never get caught doesn't make it ok to lie on your tax return.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:28:50 AM
#36
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

When I read "heavy dental work" it shakes me!Hope you don't have to suffer too much.
And the idea too pay your dentist with Bitcoin is at least worth a try.Maybe he will accept if he knows about it or you could explain it to him in a quick and easy way.
But ask him before doing the procedure!
Furthermore Budapest is a pretty cool city.Had been there a few times and always enjoyed it.So if you will have a bit of time and you never had been in that city before, do some sightseeing. Smiley
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February 10, 2016, 08:25:24 AM
#35
Given that most of the countries have a social protection, you can't pay in Bitcoin since you wouldn't be able to give your contribution.
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February 10, 2016, 08:23:19 AM
#34
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.

for a dentist is different he is in the register of physicians, you know this right? so his income is pretty much known by the authority he can not really evade easily
sr. member
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February 10, 2016, 08:19:29 AM
#33
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Do you think anyone here on this forum includes their Bitcoin profits in their annual tax form? So by your logic everyone here on this forum is guilty of committing tax fraud? Yeah let's all go to prison you are leading the way.
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:10:50 AM
#32
I don't think dentist gonna accept bitcoin for treatment. You can just have a try to make the dentist understand how it works. Even if the likes the tech its difficult that they accept suddenly. They may respond, next time will analyse and can try to accept. This time pay with dollars.
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February 10, 2016, 07:58:15 AM
#31
Well this is a good piece of news; and idea. Kindly update us when you reach the place on whether the dentist accept Bitcoin. Smiley.
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February 10, 2016, 07:52:33 AM
#30
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.

You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?
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February 10, 2016, 07:48:54 AM
#29
If the dentist is open-minded and forward-thinking there should be no reason not to accept bitcoin. You just have to explain to him what is and how bitcoin works.

ehm it's not about being open minded, it's about being good with the fiscal thing, dentist can not accept any form of unregulated money

The dentist won't pay any taxes on the unregulated money by the way. That means he is going to pocket everything and then some. If I were him I surely would accept that gladly.
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February 10, 2016, 07:43:58 AM
#28
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

I think it won't work. Every doctor, dentist that I've met are greedy people... They won't understand and accept BTC...

I'm thinking the same, the most are greedy.
They just want to make money, they do not care about the bitcoin.
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February 10, 2016, 07:42:57 AM
#27
At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just wait till after hes done cleaning your teeth and tell him sorry but you only have bitcoin, does he want it or not?
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February 10, 2016, 07:42:17 AM
#26
I have never paid with bitcoin at my dentist. They don't accept it here at the moment.
That's cool though, that you are able to have the option to pay with bitcoin at your dentist.
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