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jonald_fyookball

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Quote from: achow101 on September 29, 2015, 11:16:10 PM

You have already made a thread about this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/idiot-user-being-idiot-1184818. As explained in that thread, there is no proof that you were hacked and didn't fake it. If you can prove that your account was hacked (which you have not done so) then they will probably remove the red trust. If you actually were hacked, I suggest you do what people have suggested (signed message with old posted address) and ask theymos or badbear to check the logs to prove that your account was hacked.

I doubt he can prove it, and its probably irrelevant. Its not like he was a legendary, well known member.

Bottom line OP: I don't believe you.

Your account was sob story begging/scamming. The negative trust stays.

Just start a new account.

shorena

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 07:59:59 PM

look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

I did not receive a PM from you this month. Can you please tell me what you are talking about? In fact the last reply in the thread regarding your trust rating is still unanswered.

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 07:59:59 PM

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

No, that is not the way to handle things here or at least that is not my understanding of the trust system. The trust ratings serve as a warning. It allows people that want to trade with you to easily inform themselves about issues with you in the past. If there would be only warnings once someone did a scam it would be pointless, the damage is already done.

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:18:36 PM

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give me proofs im not hacked! im ratted and i know it because i found posts not mine. ask admin for ip login history i swear.

Quote from: shorena on September 20, 2015, 12:42:54 PM

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I dont understand. How is your account hacked, but the password not changed? Can you explain this? The circumstances speak against you.

#1 the hacker did not change the password
#2 while you had full control over the account someone else used it to ask for a loan and you did not notice this for over a month (1st post in the loan thread was 09.08.2015, the password was changed 19.09.2015)
#3 the negative rating was left on the same day the hacker asked for the loan.
#4 how did you get it back so fast? I have witnessed hacked and misused accounts that took months to get restored.

Also please stop insulting me, I am accessible to reason and have no problem to admit when I was wrong.

Quote from: Athertle on September 29, 2015, 08:20:00 PM

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No, that's not how it works around here. You give us proof that your account was hacked during that time period. IP login history will prove nothing because of three letters: VPN. It's easy to change IPs.
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There is no proof that someone was not hacked. If I get reasonable answers to the questions OP ignored I will remove my rating.

tl;dr There is a thread about this. Rehashing all the things here does not make a difference.

achow101

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You have already made a thread about this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/idiot-user-being-idiot-1184818. As explained in that thread, there is no proof that you were hacked and didn't fake it. If you can prove that your account was hacked (which you have not done so) then they will probably remove the red trust. If you actually were hacked, I suggest you do what people have suggested (signed message with old posted address) and ask theymos or badbear to check the logs to prove that your account was hacked.

Outlander

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Quote from: unholycactus on September 29, 2015, 08:52:23 PM

I'm not sure why people think the trust system falls under the UN declaration of human rights.
I'm also not sure why people value their trust so much.

Because trust is based on the public opinion to the accounts. A high trusted account provides a lot of benefits for the owners, who will be easily doing business and trads with others in here. So every one dreams to have a high reputational account. So the value of them often goes very high.

notlist3d

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Quote from: Athertle on September 29, 2015, 08:31:33 PM

Basically, OP, you need to do two things.

1) Prove that that account was not bought by you recently. You can do this by signing a message.

2) Prove that the account was indeed hacked with something other than IP logs.

Even signing does not do a whole lot as (i could be wrong) but it does not appear OP ever lost control of account. All signing will prove is that account was not purchased since then. So it would help his case some but in no way prove a hack. Did OP have to get account reclaimed from hacker and I just missed it?

If OP never lost account during time period I see it as very unlikely a hacked account would keep same password and not change it. Op really needs to show he lost control of account. Which is going to be hard. IP is easily faked with proxy's.

OP I think your only shot is talking to people who left negative. And it's a small chance it's removed. Asking for a loan without collateral is pretty much guaranteed neg trust.

unholycactus

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I'm not sure why people think the trust system falls under the UN declaration of human rights.
I'm also not sure why people value their trust so much.

Athertle

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Go figure! | I'm nearing 1337 posts...

Basically, OP, you need to do two things.

1) Prove that that account was not bought by you recently. You can do this by signing a message.

2) Prove that the account was indeed hacked with something other than IP logs.

Undermood

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:27:32 PM

Quote from: Undermood on September 29, 2015, 08:26:02 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you.

then how do i get trust removed? my pass is long and my pc is clean!

You claimed you own this account, doesn't it? At first signing a message for us!

BitcoinEXpress

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:25:41 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:23:30 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?

~BCX~

i think that either u have a short memory span, or u just cant read.

Just answer the question, did you or did you not recently buy this account.

~BCX~

Added: Feedback left.

Miftach

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Quote from: Undermood on September 29, 2015, 08:26:02 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you.

then how do i get trust removed? my pass is long and my pc is clean!

Undermood

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you. If you originally own this account or buy this account, you should provide proof.

Miftach

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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:23:30 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?

~BCX~

i think that either u have a short memory span, or u just cant read.

BitcoinEXpress

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:20:31 PM

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?

~BCX~

Miftach

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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on September 29, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof

Athertle

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Go figure! | I'm nearing 1337 posts...

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 08:18:36 PM

Quote from: Athertle on September 29, 2015, 08:04:19 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 07:59:59 PM

look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

give me proofs im not hacked! im ratted and i know it because i found posts not mine. ask admin for ip login history i swear.

No, that's not how it works around here. You give us proof that your account was hacked during that time period. IP login history will prove nothing because of three letters: VPN. It's easy to change IPs.

Quote from: Outlander on September 29, 2015, 08:19:32 PM

check here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/would-love-a-loan-any-help-is-awesome-for-me-1147887
The hackers were doing stupid things.

That's not proving anything. The OP could have easily done that himself and then decided to try and pretend it wasn't him.

BitcoinEXpress

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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.

You got caught, deal with it.

~BCX~

This smells like a Quickseller troll thread to me LOL

Outlander

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Quote from: Vod on September 29, 2015, 08:13:30 PM

Quote from: Outlander on September 29, 2015, 08:12:23 PM

I suggest you sign a message from this address 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10388096) to prove you own this account and show to them. Then they will have no reasons to still keep your negative feedback.

How would that prove he didn't fake his account being hacked? It won't.

Quote from: Athertle on September 29, 2015, 08:04:19 PM

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

check here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/would-love-a-loan-any-help-is-awesome-for-me-1147887
The hackers were doing stupid things.

Miftach

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Quote from: Athertle on September 29, 2015, 08:04:19 PM

Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 07:59:59 PM

look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

give me proofs im not hacked! im ratted and i know it because i found posts not mine. ask admin for ip login history i swear.

Vod

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Quote from: Outlander on September 29, 2015, 08:12:23 PM

I suggest you sign a message from this address 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10388096) to prove you own this account and show to them. Then they will have no reasons to still keep your negative feedback.

How would that prove he didn't fake his account being hacked? It won't.

botany

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Quote from: Miftach on September 29, 2015, 07:59:59 PM

look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

You are responsible for the actions of your account, whether it was hacked or not.
In any case, the only thing you can do is take up your case with Shorena and Jonald individually. There is no point in raising a thread in Meta.

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