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Topic: I'm New To Crypto - Been Scammed - What Do You Think Of This Crypto Recovery Ser (Read 415 times)

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I am a Forex scam victim involved in a scam that cost me CHF 300,000, and I hope it helps others avoid a similar fate. It all began when I encountered what appeared to be a lucrative opportunity in forex trading. What started as minor withdrawal issues rapidly escalated into a barrage of requests for additional fees, all with little to no explanation. Feeling desperate and helpless, I began searching for a solution. During my research, I came across MUYERN TRUST HACKER. Their name appeared frequently in online forums and reviews, where many individuals shared their success stories in recovering lost funds from scams, including forex trading schemes. The feedback was overwhelmingly positive, prompting me to reach out to them in hopes of a miracle. To my relief, MUYERN TRUST HACKER responded promptly and professionally. They guided me through the entire recovery process, reassuring me of their solid track record in handling such cases. Within just 48 hours, they managed to recover CHF 290,000—an efficiency and effectiveness that left me amazed. While my experience with MUYERN TRUST HACKER was a huge relief, it also served as a harsh lesson about the importance of due diligence in investing. Forex trading and other high-risk investments can be fraught with danger, especially if one is not cautious about the platforms they choose. ( muyerntrusted @ mail - me . c o m )  ( muyerntrusthacker. o r g / )
sr. member
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Also, it wasn't a telegram scam. I followed a prominent YouTube crypto channel and paid money to join his Patreon and discord. He then advised me to deposit funds into webulltradingbot.com for high returns. I foolishly did.

It's either the YouTuber is part of the scam or he is getting paid to advertise the scam site and he doesn't know it's a scam. There's also a possibility that he knows but just doesn't care, either way, this is a classic case of not trusting social media influencers and YouTubers, especially when it comes to your money and personal data.
I scanned through his YouTube channel and you see him subtly advertising one project or the other, I have nothing against that but he should at least do his due diligence on the companies and projects he promotes if he actually cares about the people getting scammed.

Needless to say, crypto recovery is a scam. Coins transfer from one wallet to another wallet cannot be recovered by a third party. Only the beneficiary can return those coins.
newbie
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Unfortunately, they deceive everyone and everywhere and you need to be careful and not trust everything that is written, but double-check the information several times, especially if it concerns money
newbie
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I researched various crypto recovery services and found only one legitimate service, Payback.ltd, according to both Trustpilot and Sitejabber. Although there have been complaints that this site is a scam organization, there have been way more positive reviews than negative ones.

I made a mistake by depositing money on a cryptocurrency site called webulltradingbot.com.


QUESTIONS
Is it possible for a cryptocurrency recovery service to extract funds from this website?
Has anyone used Payback.ltd and if so, what has your experience been?


https://postimg.cc/xc9FD30S




From my observations and analysis, Payback is not a typical,
short-lived recovery room as some have suggested. On the whole, their strategy
seems well-defined (clear stages), appropriately informed (based on case
studies and past results), and realistically ambitious, especially if you
consider the absence of sound alternatives and are willing to undertake a
calculated risk. It’s true that they don’t flesh out their processes in great
detail on their website, however, I suspect it has to do more with competitive
business considerations than lack of transparency.
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
~Snipped~
None of us are going to believe someone who just created an account to spam their fake recovery service in such an obvious way [feel free to prove me wrong with valid proof]!
- It looks like you're already famous on a platform that lists information about spammers: Your result
hero member
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Not Your Keys, Not Your Bitcoin
I researched various crypto recovery services and found only one legitimate service, Payback.ltd, according to both Trustpilot and Sitejabber. Although there have been complaints that this site is a scam organization, there have been way more positive reviews than negative ones.

I made a mistake by depositing money on a cryptocurrency site called webulltradingbot.com.


QUESTIONS
Is it possible for a cryptocurrency recovery service to extract funds from this website?
Has anyone used Payback.ltd and if so, what has your experience been?

You went from first scam only to be scam the second time, damn but you are not giving us all the information and what led to the second scam.

You didn't specify what happen to the first scam. Did you loss your private key? Did you loss or send money to a wrong wallet? Did you send money to random person address and run with your money? Did you loss access to your seed phrase?  If this what happened, then you have no business to contact any person for help because your access to that coin is gone, nobody can save you when loss access to all the above questions.

Never send coin to any person to recover money or loss coins for you, it will end in another typical scam that you will regret later. It's better to live the case or at most, kindly report the case to a security agency if big money is involved and you know that it's a person you can get through them like maybe exchange situation but if it's an external wallet to external wallet, the chance of getting it back is very slim. Hard luck but next, do a proper research or ask questions here to clean your mind.
sr. member
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R7 for Campaign management
I've got little to no experience on this kind of matters, but I sure say you should be careful next time and try to avoid most online wallet payment system, most if them are scam that's why they chose that form of payment that makes it difficult to trace and Is irreversible. Sorry for your bad experience. But thanks for the heads up at least we all know one more site to be careful about
hero member
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Thank you for your input. I've decided not to use Payback.ltd, as well as any other crypto services, based on the feedback I got from this bitcoin forum.
It was a wise decision not to use the services of the mentioned site because they will take advantage, especially when they find out that you are new to the cryptocurrency space. However, the experience and evidence you shared are helpful for others to avoid falling into similar pitfalls. Although it's disappointing that no significant action has been taken yet. Surely, you are aware of the nature of cryptocurrency transactions, where being irreversible makes it challenging to recover funds once they are sent.
legendary
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I did file a complaint with my bank's fraud department, and they said it would take up to 4 months to retrieve the funds. They said it's a 20% success rate. After 4 months, they told me they were unsuccessful.
Sorry to hear your experience, this is why centralized entity can't be trusted.

Even though you've make a report and the scammer is identifiable because he's a Youtuber, but they don't want to proceed it even they can work together with banks to obtain his personal information.

Since you mention "cryptocurrency" I assume it's altcoins aka centralized crypto, actually the developer able to revert the transaction.
sr. member
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Begin your thread by how you got scammed because depending on how you got scammed and if you know the people behind it then you're going to have a chance to recover that crypto but with most cases, it's unlikely for you to recover your crypto as most of the scams are done online and most of the scammers are close to anonymous. Also, if it's too good to be true then it probably is, there's people already voicing out that the service is a likely scam, why risk trying it when there's already that big of a red flag? In the future, I suggest that you should be more careful and at the same time make sure that you're not too friendly when you're interacting with people online, being too friendly makes you let your guard down and that's how they social engineer you into thinking that they're trustworthy.
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WHAT I'VE LEARNED
1.  Eddie Moon, the YouTube influencer who advised me to deposit funds into webulltradingbot.com, might be unaware that it's a scam site. He might only be getting a commission on the deposits.
Don't use the influencers or content creators as basis of trust. Because they don't even use the platforms that they're advertising and they're sponsored for giving exposure these projects or services that appears on their videos.

Most of them don't even research on the actual background of these platforms. What matters to them is to make a content, upload it on their channel, get paid with the views.

And also, get paid if there are sponsorships or brand deals that they have. They won't even care if the platform is a scam or they didn't spot on it for the first time or haven't seen the red flags upon advertising it.

They only care for the money and that's a fact. You rarely see nowadays content creators that care for their audience.
sr. member
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Top Crypto Casino
Your information is very similar to another user's information on both this forum and the altcoin forum.
You say you Googled this site, but the first search brings me to a post that says it's a scam, posted in the summer of 2023 and again in October.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=310719.0

I'm inclined to think that all the accounts are yours; why is there old information here?
What do you want to achieve?


4.  The best approach is to learn from this and move forward. Forget about it and take it as a learning experience.


The smartest conclusion Smiley



I remember a nearly identical post from June 2023.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/am-i-being-scammed-by-a-prominent-youtuber-5457549

I have the same suspicion that that David92506 account also belongs to this user. Their usernames both follow the same syntax of generic name followed by several numbers.

While doing a google search for "webultradingbot" I came across a GitHub account with the username Jake0303, same username syntax as these newbie accounts. Perhaps these posts are some kind of black hat SEO marketing strategy to promote his bot, otherwise I don't understand the purpose of creating these similar topics.
https://github.com/Jake0303/Webull-Trading-Bot
sr. member
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Let love lead
You have already made a mistake and your money seems to have gone, don'take more nasty behavior that could add to your incidence by trusting in any third service providers that promise recovery of your funds, there's no how they can do that, they are just looking for means for an extortion through such medium, because you will pay them for the service they will achieve nothing on, so why wasting your time, about what you saw online concerning trust pilot and the likes of o line reviews, they can manipulate all, transactions are irreversible, and lost funds are irrecoverable.
Funds are very much recoverable, banks have a very strong database that can trace information back even possibly to their origin. Their unwillingness to help you is a testimony of your public standing. Convince me that if OP is very wealthy and an important client of them and got scammed, that they will not swing into action and help recover the funds so as to be in his good books.
Were the same FBI not the ones that tracked down CZ of  Binance and his activities against regulation?. They did so because of their interests.
Some exchanges that were hacked previously, whom have records of funds recovery,  various authorities and organizations cooperated with their recovery team and got back their funds. A little example is Hushpuppi who scammed a quatri businessman of millions of dollars, he was tracked by FBI and wired funds recovered.

I believe the reason why they are reluctant to trouble themselves with assisting  OP is simply because they're not getting anything in return and Op is just a commoner.
sr. member
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You have been scammed and you should avoid using such service because almost all services like that wre scam even if you see a good review. The website that give the review may also be part of the service. As for the funds that you have deposited, you don't have a chance of getting it back unless they send it back to your wallet. For me, trusting someone with the wallet even if you can't access (wanted to recover the wallet) it is already compromised and it's better not to use it anymore if ever the wallet is recovered.

Sorry for the OP lose, he's been scammed, his fund is lost and that's the sad reality, and he should be very careful if he still wants to go ahead to recover his lose, because he might end up being scammed again and losing more money in the process, as he has reported to the authority about the scam it's best now to learn from the very painful experience and move on. Let him understand that he shouldn't trust anybody or entity on the social media, and he needs to carry out thorough research before deciding whether to commit his money or not, also to be weary of clicking unverified links because they might lead to phishing sites. The crypto space is sadly full of scams and hacks so intending investors in any project must be very vigilant to avoid being victims.
sr. member
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Sorry to say but your money is gone, and you even trying to look for a way to get it back will expose you to another possible scam, it's true that some reviews are good for what ever website that promised to get your lost fund back but seriously, aren't you aware that reviews online are not always real?

To confuse people like you, that's why those reviews look so damn good, what you don't know is that some people are paid to write good reviews about the scam platform to deceive innocent people.

If I were you I would just move on and learn from my mistake, and make sure it never happen again, next time you should ask questions on here before doing anything, you are here now, so don't hesitate to ask questions before funding anything or using any platform.
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
I do not know about the recovery site you have linked, but the only legit recovery service is the one by Dave: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-wallet-recovery-services-for-forgotten-wallet-password-240779

He has a lot of good reviews around this forum, so you should check him out.
hero member
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Payment Gateway Allows Recurring Payments
You have already made a mistake and your money seems to have gone, don'take more nasty behavior that could add to your incidence by trusting in any third service providers that promise recovery of your funds, there's no how they can do that, they are just looking for means for an extortion through such medium, because you will pay them for the service they will achieve nothing on, so why wasting your time, about what you saw online concerning trust pilot and the likes of o line reviews, they can manipulate all, transactions are irreversible, and lost funds are irrecoverable.
That's what OP already knew and he already said he should leave it now but sharing here the story and answering to the member's comments so that we can talk about this case and save ourselves from such bots. Actually, the amount that OP has deposited is more than $55k. If I am not wrong, as he shared two pictures and in one he deposited $40k and in another picture, he deposited $15k which is not a small amount of money. I just can't believe that OP had that much money but ok I accept that he had that money from inheritance.

But why deposit all the money on a single platform that you just get to know via some Youtuber and TBH I never heard of that Youtuber before. TBH, my only advice for anyone newbie here is, that they should DYOR and never trust anyone blindly. The whole case is very frustrating if it is real.
legendary
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All the conversations I had with Eddie Moon were done on his Discord channel.
I was new to cryptocurrency, and I was impressed with the content on his YouTube channel.
He promised me high returns on that site, and I just believed him. The money was from an inheritance.

Eddie Moon instructed me to make a wire transfer from my bank to webulltradingbot.com.
I am sad about your loss; this may not have been the Eddie Moon account that contacted you on Discord. Perhaps it was one of the scammers impersonating his main account. There are really many scammers who send these new scam sites and promise people high returns. Even if Eddie Moon were the one who sent you this fraudulent platform to try the fake service they provide, it would have been better for you to do your research first or ask the crypto community about this matter. You cannot trust any YouTuber or anyone in this field because they are primarily looking for the money they get by promoting a platform, a currency, or a trading bot on their channels, and it does not matter if the followers fall into the mud because of what they did.

I'm not able to access webulltradingbot.com anymore.
When I try, they ask for a "verification code" from an "authenticator" in order to enter the site.
I have tried several authenticators, but I don't receive any verification codes.
This is certainly going to happen. They received your initial deposit, and you received a confirmation message indicating that it has been confirmed to keep you from feeling concerned. After this, they asked you to deposit $15,250 so that you could withdraw from their fraudulent platform, claiming it's the trading bot fee. When you didn't comply with their request, they restricted your access to the platform by implementing fake two-factor authentication, preventing you from contacting them again and making it appear that the mistake is on your end. Now, they have removed traces of their scam, and clicking the link will redirect you to advertising links.
hero member
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I researched various crypto recovery services and found only one legitimate service, Payback.ltd, according to both Trustpilot and Sitejabber. Although there have been complaints that this site is a scam organization, there have been way more positive reviews than negative ones.

I made a mistake by depositing money on a cryptocurrency site called webulltradingbot.com.


QUESTIONS
Is it possible for a cryptocurrency recovery service to extract funds from this website?
Has anyone used Payback.ltd and if so, what has your experience been?


https://postimg.cc/xc9FD30S

You have already made a mistake and your money seems to have gone, don'take more nasty behavior that could add to your incidence by trusting in any third service providers that promise recovery of your funds, there's no how they can do that, they are just looking for means for an extortion through such medium, because you will pay them for the service they will achieve nothing on, so why wasting your time, about what you saw online concerning trust pilot and the likes of o line reviews, they can manipulate all, transactions are irreversible, and lost funds are irrecoverable.
legendary
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
The scamsite (or a clone) does seem to be still running, but the domain name shown on this thread so far lacks a training "s":
Code:
http[colon]//webulltradingbots[dot]com/

And, as with all these scams, it bears a bunch of clones to facilitate diversifying their scheme:
Code:
https[colon]//www.markettradex[dot]com/
https[colon]//afristrattradeltd[dot]com/
https[colon]//prosperi[dot]click/
https[colon]//www[dot]bitprominners[dot]com
https[colon]//www[dot]globetrades[dot]co/
https[colon]//expertsautotrades[dot]com/
https[colon]//www[dot]communityswap[dot]net/
https[colon]//invest[dot]kingstradhub[dot]com/
(and a bunch of other similar scam sites)
They’re practically the same, with a different "offering" and ROI (by the way, the site listed at the beginning of my post renders a crappy "return" compared some of the others listed above, which goes to show). The scam stinks from miles away, and follows the traditional plot of invest x per month and get y per month guaranteed.

Note: Not really sure now just how for real we are on this particular case ...
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