I know this is a Bitcoin forum but why not use ask John or Nanotube (he handled a 10000 BTC bet in the past) to escrow the transaction but ask them to exchange the BTC to USD or EUR. Once Goat confirms he received the car and it's working fine, the Escrow will release either convert the funds back to BTC and send it to Moketillos or wire the USD, EUR or whatever currency directly.
Because it will be more of a hassle for the Escrow tip the person who does it at least 2% (or maybe 3% if the money is to be converted again, to BTC).
Just a suggestion, I just want more people to see Bitcoin used for bigger non-speculative transaction
i would be willing to send john three times the current btc price just in case we get a btc free fall. im doing everything i can to make this work with escrow, but the OP clearly is anti escrow. hmmm
Wow, if that is so I see absolutely no reason decline the offer...
lol.
yes, then you can have an accident and break the car,
obviusly is better to me to do this with escrow, but if you want to test the car to pay me, then come here and test it here, i will not pay 2000euros to ship the car and then you take it to have a funny time and then say that you dont want it,
in this case i lose time and a lot of money with shipping.
i can send you a video testing it, but if you want to test it personally then come here.
You understand how escrow works? It is to protect BOTH the buyer AND the seller.
You would only ship it if the Escrow (let's say John, who is trusted and escrow thousands of BTC transactions) confirmed that he received the funds from Goat.
If Goat wanted to break the car he could do it but he wouldn't get the BTC back. John would release it to you.
To be 99.999% safe I would post here a picture just hours before shipping the car with the date and some random text posted by someone other than you (also hours before shipping) handwritten on a piece of paper in front of the car so in case Goat happened to crash into a herd of goats totaling the car.
is cheaper that you take a fly to spain, that i ship the car to thailand
fine, but if the car does not work, and you do not get it to me in thailand then you have to pay for the flight.
you will need to but coin in escrow if you want this to happen.
This is also an interesting solution. Coins to the value of a plane ticket to Spain in escrow will not be as huge an amount as the car and you would only lose them if you wanted to scam Goat.
Goat, if he still insist on receiving the funds without you being able to test the car despite providing 2 safe options for him I'd give up on 'negotiating' with Moketillos.