Also some design, but a "help/FAQ/howto" is a priority.
But I find it intriguing and will watch the fate of paypal/bitcoin "not-really-exchange-hone'sly"
with great interest 
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I think that site would benefit greatly from a decently written "help" section.
Also some design, but a "help/FAQ/howto" is a priority.
But I find it intriguing and will watch the fate of paypal/bitcoin "not-really-exchange-hone'sly" with great interest
Also some design, but a "help/FAQ/howto" is a priority.
But I find it intriguing and will watch the fate of paypal/bitcoin "not-really-exchange-hone'sly"
with great interest 
It totally works.
Hi, I am looking for a service to buy BTC for PayPal, does this one really works?
I see that you are now selling at a 30% premium.
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Write it in international format with no spaces, no '00' and no '+'.
Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the '00' or '+' characters by your back end instead of confusing the customer?
Interesting project. I wish you luck.
Just purchased and it went smoothly, but the paypal interface was in Spanish until I logged in.
I've explicitly set the language to English in the "Buy now" button, so from now on all the process should be in English.
Thanks for using the service!
For those who have already bought coins, can you tell me if the Paypal interface was all the time in English?
Just purchased and it went smoothly, but the paypal interface was in Spanish until I logged in.
Thanks for your purchases so far! 
I've added some coins to the balance (I expect many more before the end of the week), and the limits are increased faster with each purchase. In order to avoid problems with Paypal you will see that the expression "Buy BTC" is omitted. Instead of that, the user pays to enter the "Hall of Fame", where the Bitcoin will be shown with a link to the transaction (Blockexplorer). This is just a measure to defend agains fraudulent chargebacks.
Thanks for the advice! Since it's true that Bitcoins transitions are not instantaneous, the user should (in normal situations) be able to see the transaction with 0 confirmations some seconds after the purchase. After talking to my server's tech support I realized that it was an exceptional case and in the unlikely case that it happened again I'd prefer the user to contact me directly (and then I will absolutely change of server ^^).
I've added some coins to the balance (I expect many more before the end of the week), and the limits are increased faster with each purchase. In order to avoid problems with Paypal you will see that the expression "Buy BTC" is omitted. Instead of that, the user pays to enter the "Hall of Fame", where the Bitcoin will be shown with a link to the transaction (Blockexplorer). This is just a measure to defend agains fraudulent chargebacks.
(Hint, maybe, it worth to write on exchange page about this delay )
) Thanks for the advice! Since it's true that Bitcoins transitions are not instantaneous, the user should (in normal situations) be able to see the transaction with 0 confirmations some seconds after the purchase. After talking to my server's tech support I realized that it was an exceptional case and in the unlikely case that it happened again I'd prefer the user to contact me directly (and then I will absolutely change of server ^^).
>>5 hours??! Wow, thanks for your patience, really When I receive the payment notification I often check if the
>> balance has decreased, and it has. Sometimes it takes a while for the receiver to see its balance increased (it
>> happens to me when I move money between wallets). But still, 5 hours... it must have been an exceptional case.
well, i just checked my transfers from deepbit -- 1h 30min average between DeepBit Payment tab time and my client time.
in dontcompare's case PP payment were at 25.08.2011 23:35:37 UTC+3
and client lists transaction as Date: 8/26/11 06:57 UTC+3
block explorer lists that transaction as: 2011-08-26 03:57:36 UTC
even sending from one wallet to another isn't instant, IIRC ( don't want to restart client now to check
)
I think sender see immediate balance decrease, but not receiver.
(Hint, maybe, it worth to write on exchange page about this delay )
When I receive the payment notification I often check if the>> balance has decreased, and it has. Sometimes it takes a while for the receiver to see its balance increased (it
>> happens to me when I move money between wallets). But still, 5 hours... it must have been an exceptional case.
well, i just checked my transfers from deepbit -- 1h 30min average between DeepBit Payment tab time and my client time.
in dontcompare's case PP payment were at 25.08.2011 23:35:37 UTC+3
and client lists transaction as Date: 8/26/11 06:57 UTC+3
block explorer lists that transaction as: 2011-08-26 03:57:36 UTC
even sending from one wallet to another isn't instant, IIRC ( don't want to restart client now to check
)I think sender see immediate balance decrease, but not receiver.
(Hint, maybe, it worth to write on exchange page about this delay
) 1. i suggest you disable Sent Pin button after it pressed. I almost pressed it again since there is no HUGE CENTER SCREEN RED message "pin sent" ..
Don't worry for that, it just sends one SMS. On the second click it will say "Your PIN has already been sent"2. the first PP screen (one that asks for login / password) not in english (spanish?). It may scary some people who might think it is fishing site. After login it is on my local language.
I changed the language in my Paypal account, and now in the tests the whole process seems to be in English. Tell me if the language keeps changing.3. This time btc's arrived in my client just after i pressed Pay in PP. Previous time it took 5 hours between your confirmation and actual arrive (actualy, may be i just got REALLY lucky this time )
5 hours??! Wow, thanks for your patience, really ) When I receive the payment notification I often check if the balance has decreased, and it has. Sometimes it takes a while for the receiver to see its balance increased (it happens to me when I move money between wallets). But still, 5 hours... it must have been an exceptional case...4. Just to confirm: all next excahnges should be done with the PIN i just got ? no need to press Get PIn again for me ?(As long as i use seme phone number sure).
Correct, but anyway if you tried to ask for a new PIN you'll see the message "Your PIN has already been sent. Use the same of your last purchase. If you did not receive it, please contact me".Thanks for your commentaries!
1. i suggest you disable Sent Pin button after it pressed. I almost pressed it again since there is no HUGE CENTER SCREEN RED message "pin sent" ..
2. the first PP screen (one that asks for login / password) not in english (spanish?). It may scary some people who might think it is fishing site. After login it is on my local language.
3. This time btc's arrived in my client just after i pressed Pay in PP. Previous time it took 5 hours between your confirmation and actual arrive (actualy, may be i just got REALLY lucky this time )
4. Just to confirm: all next excahnges should be done with the PIN i just got ? no need to press Get PIn again for me ?(As long as i use seme phone number sure).
2. the first PP screen (one that asks for login / password) not in english (spanish?). It may scary some people who might think it is fishing site. After login it is on my local language.
3. This time btc's arrived in my client just after i pressed Pay in PP. Previous time it took 5 hours between your confirmation and actual arrive (actualy, may be i just got REALLY lucky this time
)4. Just to confirm: all next excahnges should be done with the PIN i just got ? no need to press Get PIn again for me ?(As long as i use seme phone number sure).
The interface of paypal was not english.
edit: it arrived
edit: it arrived
The second version is now ready. I invite you to continue testing http://btc.donotcompare.com
This time, once you have the PIN sent, it will be the same for future purchases.
Since the backend is mostly the same as the previous version, now prices are closer to the market (still a bit lower).
For those who have already bought coins, can you tell me if the Paypal interface was all the time in English?
http://btc.donotcompare.comThis time, once you have the PIN sent, it will be the same for future purchases.
Since the backend is mostly the same as the previous version, now prices are closer to the market (still a bit lower).
For those who have already bought coins, can you tell me if the Paypal interface was all the time in English?
are you aware that Paypal has already explicitly forbidden the use of their platform for bitcoin selling/purchases?
I don't think Paypal has explicity forbidden the sell of Bitcoin. They forbid the currency exchange, and whether Bitcoin is a currency is still subject of debate. I am aware of the actions against Coinpal and I am being as cautious as possible in order to avoid the same fate. This is why I implemented my own system of identification and I set limits on the purchases.you might be interested in reading this: http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/anonymous-money-needs-an-anonymous-exchange (replace bank account by paypal account).
Thaks for the article, it's very interesting. But I hope it won't get that bad to need that:Quote from: bitcoinweekly.com
1. When depositing or withdrawing from ATM's the runners/operators face must be concealed as they have cameras.
2. The ATM's used must constantly be changed, they must essentially be random otherwise the operators can be caught.
That is the opposite of what I am trying to do, be as transparent as possible. 2. The ATM's used must constantly be changed, they must essentially be random otherwise the operators can be caught.
I haven't read the entire topic so I might be repeating someone, but, OP, are you aware that Paypal has already explicitly forbidden the use of their platform for bitcoin selling/purchases?
Search these forums for CoinPal. The guy had successfully made two sites, one for selling and another for buying bitcoins with paypal, which were resisting frauds. Until Paypal froze his account.
You'll have the same fate, unless you make something that Paypal itself can't track, what wouldn't be easy. If you really want to go that way, you might be interested in reading this: http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/anonymous-money-needs-an-anonymous-exchange (replace bank account by paypal account).
Search these forums for CoinPal. The guy had successfully made two sites, one for selling and another for buying bitcoins with paypal, which were resisting frauds. Until Paypal froze his account.
You'll have the same fate, unless you make something that Paypal itself can't track, what wouldn't be easy. If you really want to go that way, you might be interested in reading this: http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/anonymous-money-needs-an-anonymous-exchange (replace bank account by paypal account).
I enter it in there and it says "Found!"
When it founds a number it says from which country it thinks it is. Make sure that the country listed is correct. If not, put the county code without the '00' and without '+'Well I finally got the pin - it took about 5 hours though!
I enter it in there and it says "Found!"
When it founds a number it says from which country it thinks it is. Make sure that the country listed is correct. If not, put the county code without the '00' and without '+' Been waiting for my pin for a while now and still haven't received it..
In some cases it takes some time to arrive. Please make sure that the number you wrote is properly detected at http://www.donotcompare.com/btc/existsNumber.phpI enter it in there and it says "Found!"
worked smoothely 20 minutes, and 0 confirmations just apperared. hope u don´t do a doublespending XD promise i won´t do a chargeback. nice for testing purposes. less then a per mill of my first paypal BTC purchase through bitcoinmarket, back when it was still up, but hope the limits will be raised sonn.
So you will have access to phone number + address + bitcoin address?
You must be kidding!
You must be kidding!
Not at all. That would be a hell with data privacy strict regulations. I'll just tell Paypal to send the item to the address of the user's Paypal profile, and thus I won't even see it. I'm going to start with it tomorrow morning. If it is not possible I'll find a workaround, but I don't consider handling private data, at least in a near future.
Why do you care if someone has your phone number, a PUBLIC address, and a physical address? What's he going to do? Give you more money? Send you something? Call you for a nice chat? Madness!
I understand your point, but well, there are very strict regulations concerning the storage and use of personal data (database encrypted and the people who has access to the key must be identified, a in-depth terms of service explaining what I will do with that, provide a way to access, modify and rectify your data, etc.). Of course, if in a future it is required to decrease the scam ratio, it may be a solution, but at this stage of the process I prefer not to deal with sensitive data.When I have the new BETA version I'll upload it with another coin (or a little more). It should be matter of days.
Why do you care if someone has your phone number, a PUBLIC address, and a physical address? What's he going to do? Give you more money? Send you something? Call you for a nice chat? Madness!
Yeahhh sure no problemCare to share your phone number + address?
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