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Topic: Im starting a new bitcoin-related project. ANONYMOUS OR NOT? (Read 3007 times)

hero member
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...when my project will start, I'll continue to use THIS account on the forum  Cheesy

Do not get me wrong: I was only trying to find a compromise between "became a target of my government" and "make sure that users will trust me", but I've just learned that there is no compromise: I love my project and people will know my name (I mean even people who do not play spy  Cheesy)
sr. member
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You are already not anonymous.

You are Nicolò Maria Lazzarin of Montemarciano, Italy. I'll refrain from calling you to demonstrate my point.

Anonymity on the Internet is a myth. Trying to hide your details will only flag you as a proto scammer. It will protect you from nothing.

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
And..? I'm just informing with my official account of this forum  Wink
I know a lot of users that do not use their official accounts when they talk about their projects  Grin

if I decide to start the project anonymously, of course I will not use this account, my ip, my computer, my phone, my email, my site, etc etc ...and you'll only have an italian user that has placed his problems, and a LOT of new bitcoin-related projects each day, which one you will choose? but this question does not exist at all: I decided that I will use my real identity, so...
hero member
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Merit: 1009
You are already not anonymous.

You are Nicolò Maria Lazzarin of Montemarciano, Italy. I'll refrain from calling you to demonstrate my point.

Anonymity on the Internet is a myth. Trying to hide your details will only flag you as a proto scammer. It will protect you from nothing.
hero member
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It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...

this confirm my point, real identity is the solution



Well, there's been people who have sullied their real names to scam as well,  but many of the scammers operating under their real names simply overpromised and failed in the face of reality.

What you really need to do as you build your site infrastructure is build a reputation for competence and honesty. Trade frequently whether you do it under a real or assumed name. Do join the WOT. Maybe test the registration and login process with a couple other names first so you don't register a key only to find you can't log in.

You can bit coin with a real name or pseudonymously (like anonymous, but some people retain your powerword), but don't assume any screen name can be completely separated from meatspace.
hero member
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Find a way to make the gambling provably fair for your users. Without this it will get difficult, no matter if you as the operator are anonymous or not. IF the site operates provably fair there is no need for you to be public. Math is always better than a pseudo-public identity which could still be a carefully laid out fake.
full member
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Start anonymous, see how that goes.  Once you have something going, you can always reveal yourself.
sr. member
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You know what you can start doing to help improve your online identity? Capitalizing the 'i'.

oh, your advice is so generous  Kiss

It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...

this confirm my point, real identity is the solution

hero member
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(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Using my real identity this will be hard to do, i think



It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...
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You know what you can start doing to help improve your online identity? Capitalizing the 'i'.
sr. member
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(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Using my real identity this will be hard to do, i think

sr. member
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Merit: 250
Find a Trusted partner from some other country, Run project on his details.

This was one of my favourite solutions, but i realized that it not the same if i show my REAL identity.

There is a third option which erases most of the cons of anonymity you listed.  Go anonymous in that your IRL is never divulged, but create a strong identity and presence with your forum handle.  Be active and have great customer service and do everything you can to reach out to your userbase and the community.  Be as transparent as you can possibly be with revealing yourself, use cryptographically "provable" techniques for your service whenever possible.  Help users verify things.

It may take longer, but you will gain trust and reputation and eventually have a flourishing service.

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

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now on this forum i have a little more then 70 messages, so i will surely keep posting and "living" on this forum but till now i dont have a "strong forum" identity, and obviously i dont want to spam in order to obtain it  Cheesy

regarding site support, it will be one of the most important focuses of my staff.

i know that when the site will be online and working, i will build my strong (real) identity by answering to all critics and support messages and by explaining my project here on this forum, but the only thing that will make user trust my site since opening is to show my identity
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(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Exactly Smiley

I wish more people would self-defeat their own arguments  Grin
hero member
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There is a third option which erases most of the cons of anonymity you listed.  Go anonymous in that your IRL is never divulged, but create a strong identity and presence with your forum handle.  Be active and have great customer service and do everything you can to reach out to your userbase and the community.  Be as transparent as you can possibly be with revealing yourself, use cryptographically "provable" techniques for your service whenever possible.  Help users verify things.

It may take longer, but you will gain trust and reputation and eventually have a flourishing service.

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)
legendary
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Find a Trusted partner from some other country, Run project on his details.
sr. member
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How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling Smiley

When the site is ready, will you test it with me? I will pm you  Wink
sr. member
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How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling Smiley

I dont think so, you will see..however the problem is that till now i cannot demonstrate that is provably fair because i only create the "space" in which users bet. I dont care if a user win/lost thousand $ or cents...i only have to watch at the bets and eventually refund fair users.

So, i think ill show my identity
member
Activity: 112
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How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 240
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How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

EDIT: for example an house edge of 98%  Grin  Grin  Grin (kidding)
member
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How are you gonna make money?
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