Topic: I'm Thinking of Bitcoin Blockchain Accessible Without Internet - page 3. (Read 815 times)
November 29, 2019, 07:39:46 AM
your vision was cool . you have a point there . btc is decentralized and being decentralized mean that it wont depend on any other thing right ? i think that is possible to have a free access on blockchain/crypto based sites just to be able to make transaction because there were already free sites that we can access even if without an active data promo but you cant almost do anything on these free sites aside from availing paid subsciptions that will be charge soon on you .
November 29, 2019, 07:25:49 AM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
You mean the forest, which area does not have internet access, is it in the forest? we know that almost all corners all have internet access, so whether you want to buy tiger meat by paying bitcoin, the question is a little tickling even you should read a lot about bitcoin transactions using SMS or a few others, many of which have been developed and are currently being developed or later, so you don't need to worry about that even if there is a world war, bitcoin can still be used for transactions 
November 29, 2019, 06:42:39 AM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
If a major breakthrough can be achieved in that aspect of using or accessing blockchain without internet globally then I believed that is a revolution in financial aspect using bitcoin as a payment gateway for transactions, buying of goods and payment of services would be well adopted and its growth would be rapid however to achieve that fate would involve lot of research I am quite optimistic a breakthrough would surely be recorded in aspect in the future. November 29, 2019, 05:37:26 AM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
Excuse me to say, did you really think of this post before posting it here? This post tells me that you do really know anything about cryptocurrency and how blockchain technology actually works. The internet is the central tool for the establishment of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency. The internet is never a third party but just serves as a linkage between computers in any part of the world. Without the internet, you can not make any bitcoin or cryptocurrency transactions because the nature of the entire blockchain network.
You're probably correct. But it's possible to use Bitcoin in areas without the internet. Some people have been able to do it from what I can tell.
The transactions will still require internet though for verification. The most important thing is to have available internet in one of the two locations involved in transactions
November 29, 2019, 03:43:14 AM
Bitcoin is a virtual currency, therefore it requires bytes as data to be processed and virtualized on the network.
Transactions exist within the network therefore the only possible way for them to come are the Internet on this current moment.
Other alternative could be radio frequencies where frequencies would contain a pattern for specific data bytes which would then be transformed.
And from that transformation you could obtain your data.
Transactions exist within the network therefore the only possible way for them to come are the Internet on this current moment.
Other alternative could be radio frequencies where frequencies would contain a pattern for specific data bytes which would then be transformed.
And from that transformation you could obtain your data.
With regards to the range of frequencies available, it is not applicable to have many people transacting over a frequency as it will be congested. In addition, there would be no security enhancement feature where blockchain could be applied. Thus, what is a better idea is to make the internet readily accessible in most areas with low cost and with a low effort of accessing it. Meaning to say that to better implement cryptocurrency transactions, I would prefer to have a free internet over the country. Or open a particular port where the internet could be free for the transaction.
November 28, 2019, 07:43:48 PM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
Excuse me to say, did you really think of this post before posting it here? This post tells me that you do really know anything about cryptocurrency and how blockchain technology actually works. The internet is the central tool for the establishment of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency. The internet is never a third party but just serves as a linkage between computers in any part of the world. Without the internet, you can not make any bitcoin or cryptocurrency transactions because the nature of the entire blockchain network.
November 28, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
Bitcoin is a virtual currency, therefore it requires bytes as data to be processed and virtualized on the network.
Transactions exist within the network therefore the only possible way for them to come are the Internet on this current moment.
Other alternative could be radio frequencies where frequencies would contain a pattern for specific data bytes which would then be transformed.
And from that transformation you could obtain your data.
Transactions exist within the network therefore the only possible way for them to come are the Internet on this current moment.
Other alternative could be radio frequencies where frequencies would contain a pattern for specific data bytes which would then be transformed.
And from that transformation you could obtain your data.
November 28, 2019, 07:00:52 PM
I read an article that can carry out transactions according to what the OP wants, with integration from blockstream to download BTC full node, and is associated with GoTenna with a mesh network.
https://www.coindesk.com/gotenna-partners-with-blockstream-satellite-to-make-using-bitcoin-without-an-internet-connection-simpler
but this looks more complicated and is impossible to reach many people at once. In the end we don't need to think complicated and position ourselves with the internet as usual, decentralization also has to adapt to things that are mainstream.
https://www.coindesk.com/gotenna-partners-with-blockstream-satellite-to-make-using-bitcoin-without-an-internet-connection-simpler
but this looks more complicated and is impossible to reach many people at once. In the end we don't need to think complicated and position ourselves with the internet as usual, decentralization also has to adapt to things that are mainstream.
November 28, 2019, 06:34:34 PM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
An internet connection is clearly needed as long as you want to have a relationship or a bitcoin transaction, how can you want to do a bitcoin transaction but not using an internet connection that is clearly not possible because a connection is needed for every transaction.whereas fiat transactions still use the internet, especially with crypto not possible. but now the internet network has advanced and is not difficult like a few years back.
November 28, 2019, 04:24:36 PM
I don't think can be possible that way. Bitcoin is all about Web, internet that is why it is been regarded as the Internet money.
Whatever that has to be digital needs the Internet part to become it. Moreover its more secured that way.
What we should be looking forward to resolve is a means of making Internet connection very accessible to everyone no matter any location they are. If possible making it free.
Whatever that has to be digital needs the Internet part to become it. Moreover its more secured that way.
What we should be looking forward to resolve is a means of making Internet connection very accessible to everyone no matter any location they are. If possible making it free.
November 28, 2019, 03:25:16 PM
I believe this is possible, but you still need modern smartphone with NFC, and TrustedZone technology.
Being said that I think Microsoft, and PBoC, hold patents for offline transfers of digital currencies over NFC.
Idea is that you can transfer currency offline and when you have Internet connection you upload new state to miners.
This feature is very important to like half of the world today, who don't have Internet connection.
Being said that I think Microsoft, and PBoC, hold patents for offline transfers of digital currencies over NFC.
Idea is that you can transfer currency offline and when you have Internet connection you upload new state to miners.
This feature is very important to like half of the world today, who don't have Internet connection.
November 28, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
That means you should try to find an internet connection, as simple as that. Because it is impossible if in the present and the future of the internet is difficult to find. Bitcoin transactions require an internet connection, and you must accept that.
November 28, 2019, 01:44:17 PM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
That means you should try to find an internet connection, as simple as that. Because it is impossible if in the present and the future of the internet is difficult to find. Bitcoin transactions require an internet connection, and you must accept that.
November 28, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
I was not even aware that you will be able to send bitcoin without internet connection and it is news for me and they are using high frequency radio to make transaction is novelty and if there are any restrictions we will see people using this method and it is a real innovative way to make things possible and now i came to know about TxTenna which uses goTenna mesh network.
November 28, 2019, 09:47:54 AM
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We could do that with birds and other means. Two locations (locations the birds can't do without) between the sends and receivers could be build for the messenger birds in different towns, cities, countries etc. The locations need to have proper shelters and food for the birds.
The birds would need to be well trained.
November 28, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
With the idea of blockchain's public ledger concept, each transaction should be broadcasted to the network and you need to have an internet connection. I am also thinking of the possibility that you could save the transaction then pass it on the network once you have connected, but it will not be efficient. We need real-time interactions of all the nodes that are creating transactions for the fulfillment of the purpose of how secured and efficient blockchain is.
November 28, 2019, 08:44:14 AM
There are already people transmitting Bitcoin over radio waves - https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoiners-finland-send-cryptocurrency-radio and other
people put Bitcoin in space, https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-in-space-blockchain-satellite-receives-first-transaction ( Blockstream’s
Blockchain Satellite ) - You do not just need Internet access to transfer bitcoins, but it is so much easier. Another thing people do not think
aboutis the physical transfer of a Paper wallet from one person to the next, but that would be too risky for large amounts and you are restricted to
physical access to the other person to do this.
people put Bitcoin in space, https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-in-space-blockchain-satellite-receives-first-transaction ( Blockstream’s
Blockchain Satellite ) - You do not just need Internet access to transfer bitcoins, but it is so much easier. Another thing people do not think
aboutis the physical transfer of a Paper wallet from one person to the next, but that would be too risky for large amounts and you are restricted to
physical access to the other person to do this.
We could do that with birds and other means.
Two locations (locations the birds can't do without) between the sends and receivers could be build for the messenger birds in different towns, cities, countries etc. The locations need to have proper shelters and food for the birds.
The birds would need to be well trained.
November 28, 2019, 07:51:46 AM
What can be done without internet, payments, exchanges nothing is possible without internet. But in this digital world every thing is possible.
It is possible to send bitcoin by Radio and Circumvent Network Censorship.
People can send and receive bitcoin even in worst case.
Source link :-
https://news.bitcoin.com/no-internet-no-problem-how-to-send-bitcoin-by-amateur-radio/
It is possible to send bitcoin by Radio and Circumvent Network Censorship.
People can send and receive bitcoin even in worst case.
Source link :-
https://news.bitcoin.com/no-internet-no-problem-how-to-send-bitcoin-by-amateur-radio/
November 28, 2019, 12:58:04 AM
What if I'm in an area without internet and I need to spend bitcoins? Wouldn't it help the decentralization principle if bitcoin doesn't depend on third-party internet connection? An internet built on the Bitcoin blockchain should be a possibility.
The idea is great since many places are still have no internet connection but if you are living today its not possible to happen or maybe in the future we really don't know. If you're on the area when there's no internet then you have to move yourself on a better place where internet is available and that's the only way for you to use your bitcoin. 
November 28, 2019, 12:29:38 AM
you are talking about sending data between peers but these peers should be able to first be anywhere in the world (so long distance is important from continent to continent) and second be able to communicate instantly (sending a new block, transaction,... should reach the entire network within seconds).
i don't think you can set up the entire system on anything except the Internet because using internet currently is the only cheapest and fastest way to propagate data all over the world in shortest time. any other method is either short range, expensive or slower.
you could however use any other method yourself. all you have to do is that think of it as sending/receiving data. now you can use radio waves, SMS, DVD or even a piece of paper that contains that data which you send to the other party. for example you can sign the transaction with your key, print it on a paper and mail it to the other person who will broadcast it on the internet.
i don't think you can set up the entire system on anything except the Internet because using internet currently is the only cheapest and fastest way to propagate data all over the world in shortest time. any other method is either short range, expensive or slower.
you could however use any other method yourself. all you have to do is that think of it as sending/receiving data. now you can use radio waves, SMS, DVD or even a piece of paper that contains that data which you send to the other party. for example you can sign the transaction with your key, print it on a paper and mail it to the other person who will broadcast it on the internet.
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