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September 20, 2023, 08:01:45 AM
What is the benefits of gambling to your society?
Casinos definitely have its benefits to the society. And the first benefit is that if you have a casino is a tourist attraction area of the country, people from outside of your locality bring money into the locality when they visit and play at the casino. What does this revenue do, well the casino pays their taxes which in turn helps finance government activities which include public works and services such as roads and schools, or programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

In the society, casinos also help to create jobs for people in the society. Some of these job positions in a casino are casino dealers, slot machine attendants, cage cashiers, security personnel, bartenders, waitstaff, hosts/hostesses, slot technicians, pit bosses, floor supervisors, surveillance operators, casino managers/general managers, marketing and promotions staff, accountants and financial analysts, human resources personnel, entertainment and event coordinators, customer service representatives, housekeeping and maintenance staff, IT and technical support, compliance and regulatory staff, VIP hosts and players club representatives, restaurant chefs, and cooks.




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September 20, 2023, 07:20:48 AM
Yes, that's what an addict is, he can't stop himself from gambling, even though he doesn't have any money. Because all he thinks about is playing and playing.
That's right, the main problem is with ourselves, how we can control ourselves when gambling, managing the time and money we will bet of course.
I think all gamblers must feel regret for what they have done, depending on how they can keep it a secret or not tell their regrets to other people, because maybe they think regret in the future is a natural thing for every gambler and they are certainly aware of all the risks they take. experience it later.
The feelings that gamblers will experience are of course seen from the results when they gamble. If they lose, of course feelings of anger and emotions towards other people will appear suddenly, but if they win, they will feel grateful because they have fun and can earn extra money from gambling.
On the time that addictions goes into the point on being that too severe then this is where problems do really start because criminal acts or illegal doings would really be the main thing that comes up into your mind.
This is why it would really be that always important that you should really be having that kind of control when it comes to your actions despite of  that addiction then better not to commit out some foolish actions because once things do happen then pretty sure it would really be ending up on a disaster because this is where things turns out to be a mess if you dont have that kind of control.

Importance of gambling into the society? Realistically speaking about into its function then it would really be a past time or leisure which it would really be that something that someone could deal with
but in speaking about on economic views then it would really be also beneficial on the sense that it would really be that generating revenue or taxes of a certain country
on which we know that it would really be helpful for a countries development knowing that tax does really play a great role when it comes to this one.

Well that's right guys, this is what is really scared, that's why I think there must always be some people (gamblers) who always get advice from some of their colleagues or family maybe not to be too excessive in gambling, because this is what they are afraid of. As we know if gamblers have entered the stage of high addiction until they run out of everything they have then the only way they think it's like a solution for them is to commit a crime or crime, Many cases appear in the news that they commit theft in gold shops or commit robbery to rob the victim's valuables and the reason is that they want to gamble but don't have money because they have spent it all on gambling, honestly this is very sad and I hope people who are still gambling to be firm with themselves to reduce the level of gambling or better stop completely even though it is difficult, but I am sure you can.

Oh well in my opinion, if they are already in a position like this, any control will be useless because it's too late, they are almost completely dominated by lust and curiosity lodged in their brains. Honestly I don't fully agree with this thread that says gambling is important for society, yes maybe that's according to the government who is concerned with the amount of tax from gambling, but for the whole it is clear that this is detrimental to society, slowly everyone's economic problems will definitely increase, I think the government should be concerned with the impact on society, not instead concerned with the money they get, I think this is the main point that should be considered. 
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September 20, 2023, 03:55:25 AM
In my opinion, it depends on how we approach gambling. If we think that gambling will only have a negative impact and harm ourselves, why do we still continue to gamble? it's better not to play, right?
There are those who think that gambling is also very important for them because there are also those who hope to get lucky and get a lot of money by gambling and there are also those who entertain themselves when they are bored.
If gambling causes the impacts you mentioned (robbery, murder, rape, etc.) then in my opinion it is very fatal and should not be done by society.
We already understand the consequences but we can't help to play sometimes if we have the money and time because we think it can multiply the small money that we have. Gambling doesn't directly harm us but the problem can be with us.

If we lose money we can't accept it and that can cause us to rage or do something which are not appropriate anymore. Maybe if we can fix this issue within our selves, gambling won't have a negative effect with us anymore, just like the others who continuously play gambling normally. We can't see any regret or what on them. They are thankful that gambling is invented or they discovered it, because it gives them another source of entertainment and extra income.
Yes, that's what an addict is, he can't stop himself from gambling, even though he doesn't have any money. Because all he thinks about is playing and playing.
That's right, the main problem is with ourselves, how we can control ourselves when gambling, managing the time and money we will bet of course.
I think all gamblers must feel regret for what they have done, depending on how they can keep it a secret or not tell their regrets to other people, because maybe they think regret in the future is a natural thing for every gambler and they are certainly aware of all the risks they take. experience it later.
The feelings that gamblers will experience are of course seen from the results when they gamble. If they lose, of course feelings of anger and emotions towards other people will appear suddenly, but if they win, they will feel grateful because they have fun and can earn extra money from gambling.
On the time that addictions goes into the point on being that too severe then this is where problems do really start because criminal acts or illegal doings would really be the main thing that comes up into your mind.
This is why it would really be that always important that you should really be having that kind of control when it comes to your actions despite of  that addiction then better not to commit out some foolish actions because once things do happen then pretty sure it would really be ending up on a disaster because this is where things turns out to be a mess if you dont have that kind of control.

Importance of gambling into the society? Realistically speaking about into its function then it would really be a past time or leisure which it would really be that something that someone could deal with
but in speaking about on economic views then it would really be also beneficial on the sense that it would really be that generating revenue or taxes of a certain country
on which we know that it would really be helpful for a countries development knowing that tax does really play a great role when it comes to this one.
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September 20, 2023, 01:02:47 AM
In my opinion, it depends on how we approach gambling. If we think that gambling will only have a negative impact and harm ourselves, why do we still continue to gamble? it's better not to play, right?
There are those who think that gambling is also very important for them because there are also those who hope to get lucky and get a lot of money by gambling and there are also those who entertain themselves when they are bored.
If gambling causes the impacts you mentioned (robbery, murder, rape, etc.) then in my opinion it is very fatal and should not be done by society.
We already understand the consequences but we can't help to play sometimes if we have the money and time because we think it can multiply the small money that we have. Gambling doesn't directly harm us but the problem can be with us.

If we lose money we can't accept it and that can cause us to rage or do something which are not appropriate anymore. Maybe if we can fix this issue within our selves, gambling won't have a negative effect with us anymore, just like the others who continuously play gambling normally. We can't see any regret or what on them. They are thankful that gambling is invented or they discovered it, because it gives them another source of entertainment and extra income.
Yes, that's what an addict is, he can't stop himself from gambling, even though he doesn't have any money. Because all he thinks about is playing and playing.
That's right, the main problem is with ourselves, how we can control ourselves when gambling, managing the time and money we will bet of course.
I think all gamblers must feel regret for what they have done, depending on how they can keep it a secret or not tell their regrets to other people, because maybe they think regret in the future is a natural thing for every gambler and they are certainly aware of all the risks they take. experience it later.
The feelings that gamblers will experience are of course seen from the results when they gamble. If they lose, of course feelings of anger and emotions towards other people will appear suddenly, but if they win, they will feel grateful because they have fun and can earn extra money from gambling.
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September 19, 2023, 03:55:29 PM
I completely agree. Gambling has a negative connotation in a lot of peoples minds as it can lead to addiction, but the average person can gamble and keep things under wraps, so to speak. 

Here in the state of Illinois, we have legalized gambling in a big way, and continue to loosen gambling laws and it's helping out state tremendously as we are broke.  I think it's a huge positive !
For us to be a respected gambler looking at how the community frown at it, we need to make sure that we do all we can to fix ourselves and put things to order. The society frown at Gambling recklessly and if we expose the way we gamble then we can end up doing the wrong thing when we would have make a better plan for ourselves. There is strong need for us to make sure that we gamble responsibly and do what is right so that the society will not see us like we don't know what we are doing. We need to make sure we do it legally not illegall at all means.
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September 19, 2023, 03:45:52 PM
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No, this is not how the assumption goes. The collateral damage caused by gambling is almost impossible to grasp. It is extremely multifaceted and can range from addictions (alcohol, drugs) to any other health problems that need treatment to broken up relationships and bad child development and education due to negligence, to suicide in a worst case (which exacerbates the shortage in available workforce and talent), to criminal activities (stealing money for gambling) that needs the police, the court, lawyers, perhaps imprisonment, to whatever you can think of.

The calculation must be incredibly complex and can only be an approximation I suppose, but if I had to guess, I would say that the average country government rather loses than profits from gambling. I can't prove it, it is just a guess that I thought about for a few minutes.
The damage could be worse than we imagine because we don't face it directly and only see it from a distance. You are right in everything you say that more impacts might occur while the media might not pick up the case because of the ban or whatever. And yes, when we talk about the impact, it will become more widespread because it will be interconnected with each other.

If the government of a country prefers to lose rather than make a profit from gambling, it means that the country will prohibit gambling and will not allow its people to gamble anymore. That will be a rejection from the community because gambling may have become a habit they cannot reduce or even eliminate. And that might be a tough decision for the government to take, considering that they have already profited from gambling. But because the impact is getting wider and can damage society more seriously, the government should ban gambling in its country.

No, the real question is how governments do their maths because governments are usually only responsible for a certain period of time. In the short term tax income from gambling could be positive for a government in charge, but 3 terms later the government might be confronted with the collateral damage caused by a gambling addict.

Imagine a father of three experiences some hard fate in life and drifts into addictions, a little bit of alcohol first and then gambling. The family is doing ok, finances are ok. But now the father goes nuts and ruins the family altogether. No money left, children grow up in poverty, wife wants to be divorced and also suffers from debt.
The long term cost of this scenario are probably crazy when you measure it as the difference of what that family would have turned into without those issues and then contributed to the GNP and tax income of the state, and now that they are all broke, lack potential education and are caught in the hamster wheel, potentially needing welfare. That is the true cost that addicts can cause.
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September 19, 2023, 12:49:39 PM
For me gambling was more about fun, than something serious. I think the role of gambling in society is another source of entertainment, yet only individuals only have serious life changing problems with gambling. Remove gambling from society, and we would get a huge number of people who wont know how to relax, to release steam. I am not talking about addicted people right now. Remove gambling, and a lot of people wont know what to do. Who knows what those people could do during free time. Who knows what bad things some people would do, when they can be busy gambling instead.

If the society is to cancel gambling today, there are going to be lots of jobless people without hope and future. I understand that even a gambler hate to see people say gambling is addictive but with time, I realizes that is true because been addicted to something doesn't mean you become irresponsible, you can be addicted to pressing your phone each time you wake up from the bed in the morning, does that affect? Maybe individual difference answers will be different but to me, there is none and this is same to gambling. With addiction, people see gambling as means to make some cool cash any day luck shines on you.

If gambling doesn't exist tomorrow, there is going to be a decline in sport activity, some people will not have something that will motivate them again because gambling and sports are mutually inclusive. Don't be surprised if the world experience increased in alcohol in take because may people take their time to gamble and have fun instead of alcohol consumptions.

If we are to begin to render the usefulness of gambling to the society, we may not be able to give it all because they are many to consider, i remember back then in olden days as we read from the story of how gambling began, that people coexist together to gamble because of fun and friendliness, they do this together within their neighbourhood and stay together, gambling helps build a good ties among the people, it's also a form of an entertainment and people also gamble to have opportunities of meeting people at the cause of it, today these opportunities have widespread such that some get employment opportunities and lots more while gambling and the society is good to live in with gambling being included.
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September 19, 2023, 12:47:50 PM
I completely agree. Gambling has a negative connotation in a lot of peoples minds as it can lead to addiction, but the average person can gamble and keep things under wraps, so to speak. 

Here in the state of Illinois, we have legalized gambling in a big way, and continue to loosen gambling laws and it's helping out state tremendously as we are broke.  I think it's a huge positive !
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September 19, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
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No, this is not how the assumption goes. The collateral damage caused by gambling is almost impossible to grasp. It is extremely multifaceted and can range from addictions (alcohol, drugs) to any other health problems that need treatment to broken up relationships and bad child development and education due to negligence, to suicide in a worst case (which exacerbates the shortage in available workforce and talent), to criminal activities (stealing money for gambling) that needs the police, the court, lawyers, perhaps imprisonment, to whatever you can think of.

The calculation must be incredibly complex and can only be an approximation I suppose, but if I had to guess, I would say that the average country government rather loses than profits from gambling. I can't prove it, it is just a guess that I thought about for a few minutes.
The damage could be worse than we imagine because we don't face it directly and only see it from a distance. You are right in everything you say that more impacts might occur while the media might not pick up the case because of the ban or whatever. And yes, when we talk about the impact, it will become more widespread because it will be interconnected with each other.

If the government of a country prefers to lose rather than make a profit from gambling, it means that the country will prohibit gambling and will not allow its people to gamble anymore. That will be a rejection from the community because gambling may have become a habit they cannot reduce or even eliminate. And that might be a tough decision for the government to take, considering that they have already profited from gambling. But because the impact is getting wider and can damage society more seriously, the government should ban gambling in its country.
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September 19, 2023, 12:09:25 PM
In my opinion, it depends on how we approach gambling. If we think that gambling will only have a negative impact and harm ourselves, why do we still continue to gamble? it's better not to play, right?
There are those who think that gambling is also very important for them because there are also those who hope to get lucky and get a lot of money by gambling and there are also those who entertain themselves when they are bored.
If gambling causes the impacts you mentioned (robbery, murder, rape, etc.) then in my opinion it is very fatal and should not be done by society.
We already understand the consequences but we can't help to play sometimes if we have the money and time because we think it can multiply the small money that we have. Gambling doesn't directly harm us but the problem can be with us.

If we lose money we can't accept it and that can cause us to rage or do something which are not appropriate anymore. Maybe if we can fix this issue within our selves, gambling won't have a negative effect with us anymore, just like the others who continuously play gambling normally. We can't see any regret or what on them. They are thankful that gambling is invented or they discovered it, because it gives them another source of entertainment and extra income.
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September 18, 2023, 05:43:51 PM
In every society the conditions are different like in our society gambler never thinks about others and bet for only their personal profit. If it was such a beneficial thing then it will not be banned in our society.

Instead of charitable character gambling often insists a person to be a part of those job which is not consider as a good process in our society. People are in favor of gambling that it provides money for helping others but according to my opinion gambling completely spoils the life of an innocent people.

I would love to say my point of view about this.  First, it isn't gambling that spoils the life of innocent people but the gambling addiction.  What drives gambling addiction?  It is the irresponsible way of people dealing with gambling activities.  It is more of gambling abuse.  I would not blame gambling for people's financial ruins.  It is their lack of discipline that lead them to that destruction.  We have seen people who enjoys gambling activities but still keep their wealth healthy.  Why?  Because they moderate their gambling activities.  They set the amount they are afford to lose and keep the boundary with it.


Finally, someone who understands the simple fact that it's not gambling that's the issue, it's the pathetic lack of self-discipline that people have. I understand. This entire story about how gambling destroys lives is just a convenient way for people who are unable to accept responsibility for their own errors to get away with it. Here, irresponsibility is the primary offender. Individuals ought to quit blaming gaming for their own inability to exercise self control. You shouldn't be gambling in the first place if you lack the self-control to establish and adhere to a limit. Let's not mince words: don't hold the game responsible if you are unable to manage your behaviours. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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September 18, 2023, 03:08:47 PM
What is the benefits of gambling to your society?
You pointed out a very valid point that many of us over look...gambling and alcohol are among the heavily taxed industries yet people forget that these are among the regular contributors to most of our tax revenues which supports most of our government programs luke infrastructure,  health, school programs etc though this can't be compared to VAT or sales tax...
Some countries like Australia don't care about the income they raise from tax from gambling. Recently a legislative bill that will ban the use of credit cards or cryptocurrency to engage in online gambling. The country already has a law that prohibits the use of credit cam in land based casinos. This unfriendly policy will cause many online and crypto gambling firms to lose clients and this could lead to a decline in profit.  When profit is small, the tax will also reduce but some nations are fighting gambling addiction regardless of the threat of decline in tax revenue.

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But at the same time its unfortunate some sections of society have experienced first hand negative effects of gambling which has seen a family member or spouse lose their job and in some extremes life because of gambling 🎰 and will never see benefits of gambling  Cry

The government should take reasonable action to control or limit gambling addiction in the country.  There is nothing wrong with gambling if you can control your betting life.  But you have failed as a gambler if you gamble at the detriment of your health, family,  income, or job. Moderation is important in everything you do including gambling. Underaged gambling should be highly discouraged and gambling addicts should get all the medical and other assistance they need to help them break from gambling addictionn.
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September 18, 2023, 01:35:12 PM

I would love to say my point of view about this.  First, it isn't gambling that spoils the life of innocent people but the gambling addiction.  What drives gambling addiction?  It is the irresponsible way of people dealing with gambling activities.  It is more of gambling abuse.  I would not blame gambling for people's financial ruins.  It is their lack of discipline that lead them to that destruction.  We have seen people who enjoys gambling activities but still keep their wealth healthy.  Why?  Because they moderate their gambling activities.  They set the amount they are afford to lose and keep the boundary with it.



We can’t say it blindly because only few innocent get addicted to gambling and do gambling in the emotions and loss the money in the gambling.The gamblers with huge knowledge won’t do the betting on emotions.They will wait for the correct time to bet,till that they will hold the money in the casino site itself.The gambler should take the gambling as the or entertainment at the free time,because the random betting never gibberish the win to the gamblers.The loss of money will only cause for the gambling addiction.Such addiction can be recovered by making some small bet many times instead of the big money bets for the few times.The big money few times will overcome the small bet many times which take all your money into loss.
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September 18, 2023, 12:56:59 PM
In every society the conditions are different like in our society gambler never thinks about others and bet for only their personal profit. If it was such a beneficial thing then it will not be banned in our society.

Instead of charitable character gambling often insists a person to be a part of those job which is not consider as a good process in our society. People are in favor of gambling that it provides money for helping others but according to my opinion gambling completely spoils the life of an innocent people.

I would love to say my point of view about this.  First, it isn't gambling that spoils the life of innocent people but the gambling addiction.  What drives gambling addiction?  It is the irresponsible way of people dealing with gambling activities.  It is more of gambling abuse.  I would not blame gambling for people's financial ruins.  It is their lack of discipline that lead them to that destruction.  We have seen people who enjoys gambling activities but still keep their wealth healthy.  Why?  Because they moderate their gambling activities.  They set the amount they are afford to lose and keep the boundary with it.

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September 18, 2023, 12:46:57 PM
Can you consider something positive if you can clearly see that everyone who gets involved in it loses money? I don't think so, and that's why I don't blame society if they don't see gambling as a positive thing. I know that there are responsible gamblers as well, and there are those who gamble just for fun and don't spend a lot of money on it, but still, the percentage of people who are responsible and take gambling as an entertainment is too low compared to those who gamble to earn money.

Gambling is considered a fun activity and I never heard if anyone suggest that gambling is essential for society. In fact, the people who do not gamble think that gambling brings more bad effects as compared to the good effects to people's lives. Only the gamblers themselves think that
gambling is an important thing in life.


However, I don't see why someone would think of a job differently when the person is simply doing their job and earning a salary. Even if they are serving cards at a table or giving out cash or chips to people, they are doing it so that they can earn a livelihood and I don't see anything bad in that.

These are the workers present in the physical casino and they do the job in the gambling casinos. They do not gamble and therefore we cannot call them gamblers. They are the ones doing the job there and they get paid for it.
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September 18, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
In every society the conditions are different like in our society gambler never thinks about others and bet for only their personal profit. If it was such a beneficial thing then it will not be banned in our society.

Instead of charitable character gambling often insists a person to be a part of those job which is not consider as a good process in our society. People are in favor of gambling that it provides money for helping others but according to my opinion gambling completely spoils the life of an innocent people.
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September 18, 2023, 11:54:06 AM
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You should read more precisely what I have written and if there are any questions, why don't you ask me what I meant if you don't understand it?

Everything comes at a cost in life in various forms and having a big gambling industry can generate tax income for the state, which it most likely does. It would be interesting to have some numbers on the overall collateral damage that gambling produces as a cost the national society in that country has to bear.

Selling alcohol brings in tax money, but do you have an idea or a ball park about the financial collateral damage to the health and job industry that 100 dollar in tax money produce? If someone has an alcohol problem, does not go to work for four weeks per year because of getting wasted, that person does not produce any value or a product, which could be sold and also generate VAT, and the social systems have to bear the cost as they also have to get involved if that person needs treatment. Even worse, later in the future that person has a fatty liver and needs intensive medical treatment , surgeries included perhaps.

How much should that person drink to generate enough tax money that all the cost drinking entails on all aspects of life are covered? Do you now get my point?
Yes, I understand what you mean. Sorry if I didn't understand what you meant before.

And if that's what it means, you could check where the state generates tax money. With the state's many tax sources, the tax money is very large and can cover the costs you mentioned. Apart from that, the number of people suffering from the disease you mentioned is smaller than the total population in a country, so the country can still cover it, provided that no tax money is corrupted. But the problem is how much tax money has been corrupted by government officials and how much tax money is left, so it will likely be less than expected.

The assumption is like this. If one country has a population of 100 million people. Suppose that 10 million people gamble and 1 million experience problems related to gambling, so they have to get medical treatment, and it takes years to recover completely. While the tax money received by the state from all businesses is, say $4.9 trillion. The state will be able to cover the maintenance costs. However, if not, the government will look for other solutions not to burden the country too much.

But I am sorry. Perhaps I can't explain it clearly, so there are still mistakes. I am also not someone who understands tax and economic issues and only think of an ordinary person who doesn't know anything. Once again, I apologize if I was wrong.


No, this is not how the assumption goes. The collateral damage caused by gambling is almost impossible to grasp. It is extremely multifaceted and can range from addictions (alcohol, drugs) to any other health problems that need treatment to broken up relationships and bad child development and education due to negligence, to suicide in a worst case (which exacerbates the shortage in available workforce and talent), to criminal activities (stealing money for gambling) that needs the police, the court, lawyers, perhaps imprisonment, to whatever you can think of.

The calculation must be incredibly complex and can only be an approximation I suppose, but if I had to guess, I would say that the average country government rather loses than profits from gambling. I can't prove it, it is just a guess that I thought about for a few minutes.
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September 18, 2023, 09:56:05 AM
For me gambling was more about fun, than something serious. I think the role of gambling in society is another source of entertainment, yet only individuals only have serious life changing problems with gambling. Remove gambling from society, and we would get a huge number of people who wont know how to relax, to release steam. I am not talking about addicted people right now. Remove gambling, and a lot of people wont know what to do. Who knows what those people could do during free time. Who knows what bad things some people would do, when they can be busy gambling instead.

If the society is to cancel gambling today, there are going to be lots of jobless people without hope and future. I understand that even a gambler hate to see people say gambling is addictive but with time, I realizes that is true because been addicted to something doesn't mean you become irresponsible, you can be addicted to pressing your phone each time you wake up from the bed in the morning, does that affect? Maybe individual difference answers will be different but to me, there is none and this is same to gambling. With addiction, people see gambling as means to make some cool cash any day luck shines on you.

Gambling addiction can circulate in a family, which behavior may not be conducive for the society. Addiction grows and if not moderated or attended to, can cause a huge disadvantage to the economy of the society. The waste of resources is always bad for the society. The money generated through gambling by the government is rarely used to attend to the addicted people. Assuming addicted players are cared for by the government, they'll be able to control or minimize such disorders in the society. Nobody, stops gambling in the society because it can be conducted anywhere, by peers or secretly. Hence, gambling is now a part of the society, and the number of gamblers increase everyday. Sports is booming. The world is in a rough time, humans aggressively searching for transient fun. We'll be expecting a rapid increase in gambling activities; money is fun. Gambling addiction is destructive, unlike pressing your phone every morning, it can lead to a big debt, suicide etc. The problem it imposes on youths and Men, Is it worth the little reward or infrastructures gambling money offers the society? Addicted players get little love or get neglected, during their emotional struggle. Thereby rendering them into a a worse condition and suffering. The only issue with the importance of gambling in society is that it doesn't cater for the disadvantages of gambling.
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September 18, 2023, 09:17:14 AM
What is the benefits of gambling to your society?
You pointed out a very valid point that many of us over look...gambling and alcohol are among the heavily taxed industries yet people forget that these are among the regular contributors to most of our tax revenues which supports most of our government programs luke infrastructure,  health, school programs etc though this can't be compared to VAT or sales tax....

But at the same time its unfortunate some sections of society have experienced first hand negative effects of gambling which has seen a family member or spouse lose their job and in some extremes life because of gambling 🎰 and will never see benefits of gambling  Cry
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September 18, 2023, 08:51:03 AM
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Can you consider something positive if you can clearly see that everyone who gets involved in it loses money? I don't think so, and that's why I don't blame society if they don't see gambling as a positive thing. I know that there are responsible gamblers as well, and there are those who gamble just for fun and don't spend a lot of money on it, but still, the percentage of people who are responsible and take gambling as an entertainment is too low compared to those who gamble to earn money.

However, I don't see why someone would think of a job differently when the person is simply doing their job and earning a salary. Even if they are serving cards at a table or giving out cash or chips to people, they are doing it so that they can earn a livelihood and I don't see anything bad in that.
Some gamblers can be responsible as long as they gamble and don't spend much money on gambling. It's okay if people can't see gambling as positive because everyone has their own opinion about gambling. So we will see various opinions from people in each environment in many places and positive and negative responses from many people.

Those who work in casinos may just work and make a living from it. And as long as they can keep themselves from gambling and only intend to work, they will be fine. But if a neighbor finds out that he works in gambling, maybe his neighbor will advise him to look for another job because he is worried that later he might join in gambling. But if he can explain that he really needs the job to earn a salary and take care of himself well, that will be okay. Well, that's how it is if we live in an environment, we will hear many positive and negative feedback about us.

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You should read more precisely what I have written and if there are any questions, why don't you ask me what I meant if you don't understand it?

Everything comes at a cost in life in various forms and having a big gambling industry can generate tax income for the state, which it most likely does. It would be interesting to have some numbers on the overall collateral damage that gambling produces as a cost the national society in that country has to bear.

Selling alcohol brings in tax money, but do you have an idea or a ball park about the financial collateral damage to the health and job industry that 100 dollar in tax money produce? If someone has an alcohol problem, does not go to work for four weeks per year because of getting wasted, that person does not produce any value or a product, which could be sold and also generate VAT, and the social systems have to bear the cost as they also have to get involved if that person needs treatment. Even worse, later in the future that person has a fatty liver and needs intensive medical treatment , surgeries included perhaps.

How much should that person drink to generate enough tax money that all the cost drinking entails on all aspects of life are covered? Do you now get my point?
Yes, I understand what you mean. Sorry if I didn't understand what you meant before.

And if that's what it means, you could check where the state generates tax money. With the state's many tax sources, the tax money is very large and can cover the costs you mentioned. Apart from that, the number of people suffering from the disease you mentioned is smaller than the total population in a country, so the country can still cover it, provided that no tax money is corrupted. But the problem is how much tax money has been corrupted by government officials and how much tax money is left, so it will likely be less than expected.

The assumption is like this. If one country has a population of 100 million people. Suppose that 10 million people gamble and 1 million experience problems related to gambling, so they have to get medical treatment, and it takes years to recover completely. While the tax money received by the state from all businesses is, say $4.9 trillion. The state will be able to cover the maintenance costs. However, if not, the government will look for other solutions not to burden the country too much.

But I am sorry. Perhaps I can't explain it clearly, so there are still mistakes. I am also not someone who understands tax and economic issues and only think of an ordinary person who doesn't know anything. Once again, I apologize if I was wrong.
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