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einc.io
June 25, 2014, 01:22:21 AM
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I can do large scale hosting, but first I need to figure out how to setup secure remote access.
Customers need to be 24/7 able to change their own settings, without me to change it for them.
I only host miners I have sold, like all the resellers do.
If you need large scale hosting, I can help you set it up.
Setting up a  large farm with over 200 miners is done within a week if you know someone who works
in a electricity company and know where you can buy the big wires and other stuff.
If you don't have connection in this country, it will take you a lot longer to get the paperworks ready.

MultiMiner might be able to help with that. Tons of awesome features and you can option to run multiple instances, each with their own api login.
Check it out yo
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/multiminer-any-miner-any-where-on-any-device-free-open-source-cross-platform-248173

Thanks you for your info, I will look into it now.
sr. member
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I can do large scale hosting, but first I need to figure out how to setup secure remote access.
Customers need to be 24/7 able to change their own settings, without me to change it for them.
I only host miners I have sold, like all the resellers do.
If you need large scale hosting, I can help you set it up.
Setting up a  large farm with over 200 miners is done within a week if you know someone who works
in a electricity company and know where you can buy the big wires and other stuff.
If you don't have connection in this country, it will take you a lot longer to get the paperworks ready.

MultiMiner might be able to help with that. Tons of awesome features and you can option to run multiple instances, each with their own api login.
Check it out yo
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/multiminer-any-miner-any-where-on-any-device-free-open-source-cross-platform-248173
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 500
einc.io
I can do large scale hosting, but first I need to figure out how to setup secure remote access.
Customers need to be 24/7 able to change their own settings, without me to change it for them.
I only host miners I have sold, like all the resellers do.
If you need large scale hosting, I can help you set it up.
Setting up a  large farm with over 200 miners is done within a week if you know someone who works
in a electricity company and know where you can buy the big wires and other stuff.
If you don't have connection in this country, it will take you a lot longer to get the paperworks ready.
sr. member
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Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.
Please clarify - Does this mean one machine will return 1.9BTC over and above the initial investment?
Or will it produce only 1.9BTC leaving a loss after subtracting initial investment?
Thanks.


If you follow BITMAIN post about their calculation of ROI, you will understand a lot things, but you need to have access to electricity cheaper than 20 dollar cent, which a lot country don't have that low.
To be competive, you need to live either in the United States or China to have access to cheap electricity.
Avoid import tax, American don't paid import tax if it is shipping from China.
Avoid shipping cost.
Best option is to host it somewhere without paying shipping cost and import tax.
I can sell Dragons for 1599 and host it for 135 dollar per month.
I am looking into remote access at the moment, people can change their own pool without me doing it for them.


I might be interested in hosting with you since I can get to china at this moment, can you offer bulk hosting packages?
But I rather take miners from my supplier since I get them way cheaper then that.
hero member
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einc.io
In my search for remote access I found these two great tutorials for Dragon 1T miners

[TUTORIAL] How to reinstall / reset SSH Access for LKETC 1TH/s Dragon Miner
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tutorial-how-to-reinstall-reset-ssh-access-for-lketc-1ths-dragon-miner-648730

[TUTORIAL] How to password protect your LKETC or any miner webpage?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tutorial-how-to-password-protect-your-lketc-or-any-miner-webpage-650114
legendary
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Thanks for the reply,
I'm coming from the traditional definition of ROI:

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp

and just wanted to make sure we were talking the same. Wink
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einc.io
Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.
Please clarify - Does this mean one machine will return 1.9BTC over and above the initial investment?
Or will it produce only 1.9BTC leaving a loss after subtracting initial investment?
Thanks.


If you follow BITMAIN post about their calculation of ROI, you will understand a lot things, but you need to have access to electricity cheaper than 20 dollar cent, which a lot country don't have that low.
To be competive, you need to live either in the United States or China to have access to cheap electricity.
Avoid import tax, American don't paid import tax if it is shipping from China.
Avoid shipping cost.
Best option is to host it somewhere without paying shipping cost and import tax.
I can sell Dragons for 1599 and host it for 135 dollar per month.
I am looking into remote access at the moment, people can change their own pool without me doing it for them.
legendary
Activity: 1267
Merit: 1000
Probably because the average 1th machine will only Roi about $1100 USD or 1.9 btc.
Please clarify - Does this mean one machine will return 1.9BTC over and above the initial investment?
Or will it produce only 1.9BTC leaving a loss after subtracting initial investment?
Thanks.
hero member
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einc.io
LKETC increase their price to 1785.96 shipped paid via bank wire or 3.33 BTC with bitcoin.
copper member
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Sold 2 Dragons 1T to Squall1066 with hosting trans ID 3d853c3564742c3bb75d512ed2b100129e863086200721ace08fa9afc2644030

I normally don't do hosting, but the buyer bought a lot from me in the past, so I made an exception.
Just need to figure out how to setup secure remote access and then I can offer it to you all.
I don't want anyone looking into other miners.




I confirm this, Thanks alot easy2mine, It is on my pool and hashing nicely.
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einc.io
I"ve sent you a PM looking forward to hearing back also sent a request on skype interested in 1 of these miners. Cheesy

Add you at Skype.
legendary
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I"ve sent you a PM looking forward to hearing back also sent a request on skype interested in 1 of these miners. Cheesy
hero member
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einc.io
Sold 2 Dragons 1T to Squall1066 with hosting trans ID 3d853c3564742c3bb75d512ed2b100129e863086200721ace08fa9afc2644030

I normally don't do hosting, but the buyer bought a lot from me in the past, so I made an exception.
Just need to figure out how to setup secure remote access and then I can offer it to you all.
I don't want anyone looking into other miners.


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What I have found and wanted to rent. 400 square meter for 4000 renminbi a month for the whole third floor.
My brother in law told me that area is very poor and has a lot burglary.





Pictures inside the building I wanted to rent

This will probably the place for the new farm, it's a toy factory from a friend of my brother in law, he is going to relocate his factory to a bigger place.
Now I am looking how we can do the rewiring first, before renting it.
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Thanks for the answers guys. Easyminer how are you liking the 2t miner you just got? Any advantages in pricing/ wattage? My power is fairly cheap .1025 kwh so power is a bit less important but still something to consider. Are you going to be doing group buys on the bigger rockbox or do you have another miner in mind?

steve


Sorry for not having time to update that thread, I bought that Avalon 2T miner just to let the community know the company selling them is legit.
The build quality is good execpt for the Rasberry Pi part, but they use too many metals, its 40 kilo.
At least 15 kilo too much if they have done the design right.
I am putting the Avalon in an isolated chamber to let the heat build up to see how it reacts on temperature.
It use Delta server PWM fans, it get noisy if the intake temperature is warmer than 30 degree Celsius, about 60 dB.
It's freaking hot in that room, 45 degree Celsius, at that intake temperature, the Avalon 2T hash at 1.6-1.7 Terahash.
The Avalon is very temperature related, if the intake temperature is below 30 degree Celsius it hash between 1.9-2.0 Terahash.

They use 300 chips in this miner, the old 820 Ghash Avalon only use 105 chips.
This miner can be overclocked if the condition is right.

I still have to measure it with a Kill-A-Watt.

I have been busy with ordering metal racks and placing them, my farm is growing bigger.
I need to find a new place, I will post picture of new place.
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Thanks for the answers guys. Easyminer how are you liking the 2t miner you just got? Any advantages in pricing/ wattage? My power is fairly cheap .1025 kwh so power is a bit less important but still something to consider. Are you going to be doing group buys on the bigger rockbox or do you have another miner in mind?

steve
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easy2mine power seems to be the problem with miners, and I think is because our governements do have cheaper energy but they the big oil and eletric companies pay these inventions from coming out to save people money on electric.  This sucks lol.
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Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve

Innosilicon design the A1 chip and give the factories reference design of the casing and other stuff.
Thats why all the Dragon 1T miners looks the same.
Instead of designing their own casing with better airflow and cheaper to build they all follow the reference design.
There are 3 major design flaws in the current case design, almost anyone who has build their own rigs before for bitcoin mining using GPU's will see those design flaws and correct them.
All the factories are struggling with the noise of the casefans, they try their best to lower the noise by experimenting with different brands of case fans, but will not succeed.
Simply because they don't understand anything about airflow and air pressure.

They have a small batch of 200 under spec PSU's, but they have replace all those miners with correct working ones, once they found out those PSU's are not good enough.
Those miners are from earlier may, they have shipped me 1200 watt PSU from InWin for replacement afterwards before the under spec PSU's stopped working.
All my miners have 1200 watt PSU.

I don't have heard anything about a more powerfull machine released by LKETC on 20 june, Gridseed however will release a 1100 G machine on 20 june.
I have already a 2T Avalon Gen3 miner hashing since yesterday.
I only bought that to proove to the community that it exist and that the factory producing them is legit.
They have problems with communicating, because English is not their first language.
I pay full price for the miner just to let the community knows that you do have choices in different miners and that you do not need to pre-order.
sr. member
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Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve

im close to the action too and no is not anytime soon, on my side anyways
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Easy Mine I see where people are having trouble with LKETC I know your not with them but do you have any insight to them using under spec power supplies? Also I have seen rumours of a june 20 release of a more powerfull machine. Your closer to the action have you seen or been told of any of this?

Steve
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