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Are there any updates on the stablecoin dominance here? I think it has been a while but there's no significant impact that I have seen or news about it. It's always going to be overpowered by the current payment processors I think. It's definitely a different league IMO if we're going to talk about that. Cryptocurrency has a league of its own.
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Stable coin does not represent the entire cryptocurrency industry and it is no different from currency in its digital form.  so I don't think that proves crypto dominance or that cryptocurrencies are being used more than other traditional means.  even if people use more stablecoins than fiat or banks, I don't see that having any positive effect on making bitcoin more popular.
Ultimately, what is happening with stablecoin usage proves only one thing, people still prefer centralized systems and services over decentralized ones.
Stablecoins first appeared as private and other commercial financial assets, but more recently we have seen the emergence of CBDCs - digitized national currencies of states that are created primarily using blockchain technology. The number of state stablecoins will grow, and since they will compete with commercial ones, states, by regulating and complicating the rules for the circulation of commercial stablecoins, will create tangible obstacles to their development. Therefore, I do not expect strong further development of the current stablecoins, much less their assistance in the dominance of cryptocurrencies in the financial market.
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The adoption of stable coins are already big, you can check in CMC where the top 6 trading volumes are dominated by 4 stable coins, the rest is BTC and ETH. This means most people use it for trading, but I don't think it's related to crypto dominance since no one want to hold stable coins where it's centralized, not making any profit and there's a risk of the project turn to be scam. Don't forget about UST and LUNA.
What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies. These stable currencies derive their value from the fiat currency (mainly the dollar), and this also represents their biggest problem at the same time, since most of them are issued without sufficient dollar reserve cover.
As for the uses, the most important areas of using stable currencies is in the field of trading to freeze the price in cases of a sharp decline, and I have not heard that these currencies are used in shops and commercial exchanges in general.

Stablecoins still influence the crypto market even though they're not considered a crypto currency. They are meant to provide a stability arm to volatile cryptos. As much as I'm reluctant towards them, they do more harm than good if your purpose is trading. Average Bitcoin user doesn't need them.

Even if the underlying reserves don't actually amount to the stablecoins in circulation, I suppose the illusion of liquidity is what keeps things going. I'm still waiting on an actual 3rd party audits for Tether's reserves. Seemingly every Tether holder has to at least recognize that the entire system is built on a house of cards.
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Stablecoins have become a dominant force in the payments industry Op?

What do you mean by that, dude? Because of how many years I've been in this industry, I haven't heard of a single merchant or company that accepts payment in stablecoins. Yes, I know stablecoin can be used as an option payment, but are there many merchants or companies that do this?

As far as I know, there are none, because the only ones that I hear are accepted are Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dao, Monero, and others. But not stablecoins; maybe if there is, the USD or USD is only rarely thought of in my idea.
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The adoption of stable coins are already big, you can check in CMC where the top 6 trading volumes are dominated by 4 stable coins, the rest is BTC and ETH. This means most people use it for trading, but I don't think it's related to crypto dominance since no one want to hold stable coins where it's centralized, not making any profit and there's a risk of the project turn to be scam. Don't forget about UST and LUNA.
I was thinking the OP is saying about the adoption of CBDCs of different countries and not stable coins. Although CBDCs are stable coins but they are more of fiat than crypto. The government who is avoiding or fighting crypto is still in the crypto space. Whether with or without facilitation, crypto must be widely adopted and it will have high level of dominance.
Whether what he thought was stable coins or cbdc that can never solve any problem and the government would never see that as an option or a problem to them. People are tire of holding fiats which is almost similar to fiat. Stable coin can not make anyone rich or increase our profits for holding it. I don't see any problem so far that stable coins have solve in alleviating sufferings and increasing the value of our Capital. I would better go for a volatile coins than the stable ones since they have the potential to increase in price.
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What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies.

Though most (or maybe all) of stable coin is centralized, and backed by fiat, as long as they are using Cryptographic encryption and blockchain technology, they still can be considered as cryptocurrency, a centralized crypto currency but still cryptocurrency, and it might sound weird, but there are actually some people who are never learn Bitcoin or Crypto, but they are familiar PayPal, Skrill and other online payment method, with PayPal releasing a cryptocurrency, it might be their first step to learn about crypto. I don't fully agree to every statements by OP, but some part of his opinion actually make sense.
Stable currencies are mainly used in trading platforms, where a novice user cannot understand the basics of their development and will most likely treat them as if they were fiat dollars. PayPal, Neteller, and other financial institutions never have a priority to spread blockchain culture and educate their users, and they do not even provide users with the ability to make payments except through a payment gateway.
In the example of PayPal in particular, it can be said that the company is making attempts to enter the WEB 3 market in different ways. This may be without sufficient knowledge of market conditions and users, or perhaps it is experiments to come up with evaluations on the basis of which the next step is taken. PayPal did not seek to solve this problem by implementing some modernization proposals, especially since it only takes its name from the blockchain, while development and support are completely centralized. This is one of the worst experiences ever, in my opinion.
Expected for those merchants on having that kind of treatment or behavior on which they cant really be just that easily be adopting or integrating on things which are decentralized or not really that regulated.
As much as possible they would really be avoiding on things which would really be putting up in trouble. Speaking of news and updates then lets stick to Paypal.

PayPal’s PYUSD struggles with early adoption — Nansen
https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-pyusd-stablecoin-struggles-with-adoption-nansen

They do even tend to create their own stablecoin which it is always that pegged with dollar and since these coins are really that stable or getting in line with regulation then it has nothing
to  do different on what we do have in fiat. Therefore, it isnt something that would be relevant on speaking about crypto dominance since these arent crypto at all in the first place.
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What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies.

Though most (or maybe all) of stable coin is centralized, and backed by fiat, as long as they are using Cryptographic encryption and blockchain technology, they still can be considered as cryptocurrency, a centralized crypto currency but still cryptocurrency, and it might sound weird, but there are actually some people who are never learn Bitcoin or Crypto, but they are familiar PayPal, Skrill and other online payment method, with PayPal releasing a cryptocurrency, it might be their first step to learn about crypto. I don't fully agree to every statements by OP, but some part of his opinion actually make sense.
Stable currencies are mainly used in trading platforms, where a novice user cannot understand the basics of their development and will most likely treat them as if they were fiat dollars. PayPal, Neteller, and other financial institutions never have a priority to spread blockchain culture and educate their users, and they do not even provide users with the ability to make payments except through a payment gateway.
Expected for those merchants on having that kind of treatment or behavior on which they cant really be just that easily be adopting or integrating on things which are decentralized or not really that regulated.
As much as possible they would really be avoiding on things which would really be putting up in trouble. Speaking of news and updates then lets stick to Paypal.

PayPal’s PYUSD struggles with early adoption — Nansen
https://cointelegraph.com/news/paypal-pyusd-stablecoin-struggles-with-adoption-nansen

They do even tend to create their own stablecoin which it is always that pegged with dollar and since these coins are really that stable or getting in line with regulation then it has nothing
to  do different on what we do have in fiat. Therefore, it isnt something that would be relevant on speaking about crypto dominance since these arent crypto at all in the first place.
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What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies.

Though most (or maybe all) of stable coin is centralized, and backed by fiat, as long as they are using Cryptographic encryption and blockchain technology, they still can be considered as cryptocurrency, a centralized crypto currency but still cryptocurrency, and it might sound weird, but there are actually some people who are never learn Bitcoin or Crypto, but they are familiar PayPal, Skrill and other online payment method, with PayPal releasing a cryptocurrency, it might be their first step to learn about crypto. I don't fully agree to every statements by OP, but some part of his opinion actually make sense.
Stable currencies are mainly used in trading platforms, where a novice user cannot understand the basics of their development and will most likely treat them as if they were fiat dollars. PayPal, Neteller, and other financial institutions never have a priority to spread blockchain culture and educate their users, and they do not even provide users with the ability to make payments except through a payment gateway.
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I would not attribute the increase in the share of stablecoins to the accelerating spread of cryptocurrencies.

It is actually one of indicator that some people use though and wether people hate it or not, stablecoins have been part of crypto and it is going to be as well in the future. Does anyone even remember how chaotic back then when UST crashed? it was chaotic and frankly speaking, it shouldnt really affect bitcoin / crypto in any dominant way but it did so the increase in share of stablecoins are actually correlated to the spread of cryptocurrencies in a sense
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What value stablecoins settle? Go to any supermarket in the world and you'll see people paying with Visa or Mastecard every single minute. But where are the stablecoin payments?  I never encountered a business, even a small one, that accepts stablecoins.

My guess is that most of the activity on stablecoin network is speculative trading, especially by bots. If someone shut down stablecoins tomorrow, the world wouldn't notice. If someone shut down Visa tomorrow, that would be Armageddon.

I like the analysis of stablecoin and Visa to see that even Visa is valid and valued for P2P transaction more than stablecoin that is pegged with another fiat and bitcoin the most of all decentralized coin with freedom, privacy and dominance on all other coin .

So why not go direct and use your card and at least avoid the primary stress of accessing the internet.

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What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies.

Though most (or maybe all) of stable coin is centralized, and backed by fiat, as long as they are using Cryptographic encryption and blockchain technology, they still can be considered as cryptocurrency, a centralized crypto currency but still cryptocurrency, and it might sound weird, but there are actually some people who are never learn Bitcoin or Crypto, but they are familiar PayPal, Skrill and other online payment method, with PayPal releasing a cryptocurrency, it might be their first step to learn about crypto. I don't fully agree to every statements by OP, but some part of his opinion actually make sense.
These days it is rather hard to find any one who uses the internet who doesn't know or haven't heard of cryptocurrencies or BTC. Check. 
Online browsers like opera mini, Firefox have crypto wallets that would make users wonder till findings that it is meant for cryptocurrencies.
Also, anyone using payment apps like PayPal, Skrill and the others as mentioned will at some point encounter cryptocurrency for payments, because the solution to huge transaction fees, certain level of anonymity and privacy is crypto.
Tell me what better way to make crypto more dominant if not the campaign of decentralized stable coins competing with each other to do and deliver better returns.
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Centralized stablecoins that have an issuer? So just like fiat money in digital form? CBDC? Hell no!
What problems do they solve? In what way do they help bitcoin? If you want bitcoin, buy bitcoin. If you want to hold fiat - hold fiat. A stablecoin is like a fiat wannabe that allows people to skip paying taxes in countries where every transaction is a taxable event. I don't see any other use for them. Nobody transacts with them and nobody uses them as a store of value.
If you can explain to me why a person like me, who already owns bitcoin, needs to own a stablecoin, I'm all ears.
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I would not attribute the increase in the share of stablecoins to the accelerating spread of cryptocurrencies. Stablecoins are a convenient means of storing and transferring data without losing value (the cryptocurrency rate jumps every second, while the stablecoin rate jumps once a day). For many people, it is.
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I don't know the connection between bitcoin and stablecoin that has to be something we look on to for increase in bitcoin adoption, i see stablecoin as an alternative to hold down your money when you're yet to decide on what and were to invest on, i think it's more secure having it in stablecoin than fiat, but any decision does not make an increase or decrease in bitcoin adoption, what the people needs is bitcoin and not other other form of crypto or digital currency.
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What I don't understand in the OP's position is that he is trying to connect the dominance of stablecoins in the digital asset market with the dominance that crypto will have as a direct result of that. This assumes that stablecoins are considered cryptocurrencies when they are just another form of digital fiat currencies.

Though most (or maybe all) of stable coin is centralized, and backed by fiat, as long as they are using Cryptographic encryption and blockchain technology, they still can be considered as cryptocurrency, a centralized crypto currency but still cryptocurrency, and it might sound weird, but there are actually some people who are never learn Bitcoin or Crypto, but they are familiar PayPal, Skrill and other online payment method, with PayPal releasing a cryptocurrency, it might be their first step to learn about crypto. I don't fully agree to every statements by OP, but some part of his opinion actually make sense.
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I can't really believe that it would come down to that, but there is both a right part about it and wrong one. Correct part is the fact that we are talking about a place that would be quite different, I mean stable would make all the companies all around the world pay each other easily, better than Paypal, and it would work amazingly. However, the wrong part is the fact that what if the stablecoin crashes? I mean is there a guarantee that USDT will not crash to zero tomorrow? There is absolutely no guarantee. This is why we need CBDC or whatever they are called, a stablecoin that is made by the government, at the very least you would be guaranteed it will not crashed.
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What value stablecoins settle? Go to any supermarket in the world and you'll see people paying with Visa or Mastecard every single minute. But where are the stablecoin payments?  I never encountered a business, even a small one, that accepts stablecoins.

My guess is that most of the activity on stablecoin network is speculative trading, especially by bots. If someone shut down stablecoins tomorrow, the world wouldn't notice. If someone shut down Visa tomorrow, that would be Armageddon.
Many countries are actually adopting crypto as a legal means of payment the only reason visa is still more in use is because many firms are not accepting crypto payments yet and I mean your supermarkets and other physical business that uses faits. And for now there isn't much demand for crypto payments for offline vendors. And I think you haven't read the article yet to see what I'm really talking bout
Can you make a proof whereby countries make a payment or accept cryptocurrencies as a legal tender, we all know that cryptocurrency especially bitcoin have not been accepted worldwide as a currency, but the news or information have had it already that their an existence of cryptocurrency and it have not be officially legalized as a legal tender, what I know about bitcoin is that has influenced across the countries as digital currency that is decentralized. For the aspect of a stable coins, its well known that stablecoins have regards and have no value compared to visa, when stable coins is out of the world it won't be noticeable, I believe someone has said something contrary to my point of views towards the existence of stable coins.
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What value stablecoins settle? Go to any supermarket in the world and you'll see people paying with Visa or Mastecard every single minute. But where are the stablecoin payments?  I never encountered a business, even a small one, that accepts stablecoins.

My guess is that most of the activity on stablecoin network is speculative trading, especially by bots. If someone shut down stablecoins tomorrow, the world wouldn't notice. If someone shut down Visa tomorrow, that would be Armageddon.
You have said it all, I have not seen any super store or boutique that has accepted stablecoins in anywhere but I have seen bitcoin being accepted in the city mega stores. People have not confident on stablecoins. Even online shopping people use verve, Visa and Master Cards. Stablecoins are not reliable because their value is not even appreciated. Any business that is accepting stablecoins as their payment methods is on their own risk.

Stablecoins is just like airdrop. I am not advising anyone or business owners to accept stablecoins in their payment methods of goods and services. Because they might lose all their money. Stablecoins are centralized projects which can be collapsed at anytime.
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I stumbled upon a captivating news piece online titled 'Stablecoins Settled as Much Value as Visa in 2022.' It's quite intriguing. Lately, I've been engaged in discussions with my friends about the implications of the growing adoption of stablecoins as a payment option in the current global landscape. To me, it appears to be a positive trend for the world of cryptocurrencies and us crypto users. More individuals are becoming acquainted with crypto, and it's increasingly becoming a preferred choice for many.

If stablecoin gets adopted it's a wrong representation of the industry because most popular stablecoin are as centralized as the fiat currency therefore it won't make any difference as they can easily regulate the stablecoin and take control of it but they can't do that if bitcoin get adopted as the more preferably alternative payment currency. Stablecoin adoption only gives way for the government to increase their development of CBDC and that won't be good for decentralized finances.

Stablecoin are not as stable as we think and those that are holding strong are been manipulated like Tether USDT. There are allegations against them yet they're still functioning like nothing happened but if similar allegations were against small stablecoin they'll be died.
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The thing about stablecoins is this.... it was developed to mimic fiat currencies and that is it's ultimate downfall. Other Crypto coins have good volatility and that help people to make good profits, if they use Crypto currency as an investment. (A lot of them even beat inflation)

The stablecoins are used to park money, when there are too much volatility and that does not increase it's utility. There are also more benefits to other Crypto currencies, like Smart contracts and side chain developments.

I'm going to disagree a little and add a little Smiley
1. The purpose of stablecoins is to provide a mechanism to quickly and costlessly "jump" from full-fledged crypto as it were to fiat. 
2. Volatility allows you to make money of course. But you forgot about the second side of volatility - losses. Therefore, the volatility of crypto is a "two-way stick". Someone earns and someone loses !
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