Topic: India covid19 crisis - page 5. (Read 970 times)

That's what I said, vitamin D isn't itself a direct cure, there's just evidence to suggest that it can help your immune system, and if you have a healthy immune system, that should help your outcome if you have COVID.

All the research that I've found on the matter doesn't make a connection to vitamin D and COVID, it just makes a lot of speculation. And a lot of people don't get enough sun anyways, so even if it doesn't help in regards to covid, there's plenty of research that it helps your immune system so it wouldn't hurt to take vitamin D supplements if you're low.

Everybody is looking for Covid cures that actually work. We know the vaccines don't, except if you want to call deaths and side effects cures. As many as 350,000 deaths in the States from the vaccines so far... with the potential promise of many more deaths and all kinds of side effects, worse than we have seen so far.

So, what is the cure? Many medical people are having good results with tings like: HCQ + zinc and/or + azithromycin; Budesonide; Vitamin C + zinc; vitamin D (which is curing/controlling all kinds of comorbidities, as well); and many, many more. But you have to search for them, because the Big Pharma controlled media will try to hide them from you as much as they can.

Thiamine (vitamin B1) seems to be the most logical answer so far. Here's how and why.

- The disease known as beriberi has the same symptoms as Covid.
- Beriberi is a thiamine deficiency disease.
- When the body fights Covid, it uses a lot of thiamine to do it.
- The result is beriberi in people... and severe beriberi where there is a lot of Covid to fight. Note that people who get sick with Covid, are really sick with beriberi.
- The medical has thousands of diseases to compare Covid symptoms with. That's why it has taken them this long time to find the beriberi symptoms and make a comparison with Covid.
- And, of course, Big Pharma blocks as much news as possible about cures, because they make a bunch of money off beriberi/Covid sickness and death.

Don't like the truth? Want me to do your research for you? I gave you a website link in an above post, one that has many other links in it to the same idea. So, why would you want me to do your research for you?, since you don't seem to want to accept what I say and what the other websites show?

Forget it. You're a basket case. Limp along as a basket case, and hope that beriberi doesn't get you.

vitamin D is not a cure
people living in places with better sunlight than US/UK still get sick

yes a vitamin D deficiency means it can make your immune system deficient. but its not the only thing
the amount of people with difficient immune systems vs those deficient immune due to vitD is small
people without vitd deficiency dont need vitD
people that dont need vit D can stil get covid..

thats reality. thats fact. thats logic.

if vitD was a cure they would have used it last february
why would they have used it last february you ask...

well because all infections need the use of a immune system to fight it.
all throughout history
decades of infections and stuff and its found even with pople without vitd deficiency still get sick
its not new. its standard logic

so if the vitD deficiency was the only cause of illness they would have dealt with it long ago
every infectious ailment would be iradicated.
and no one having supplements would ever of got sick
but thats not reality.

but here is the thing those with healthy immune. those taking daily supplements those with good sun exposure STILL GET SICK
thats reality

if you are immune deficient purely due to vid D deficiency then yes boost your vitD but dont think it is your immortal pill/cure

I'm interested in Covid cures that actually work. Perhaps the only thing close to an actual Covid cure, oppose to vaccines (which really are preventative, not cures) maybe might be vitamin D supplements to support a health immune system. No direct evidence to suggest that vitamin D has an effect on severity of a Covid infection, but generally the theory is that vitamin D support a healthy immune system, and a healthy immune system decreases your chance of death due to Covid.

This is, of course, why elderly people are more at risk from Covid than a healthy young 20 year old.

really concerned about the current condition of India...
with a lack of oxygen supply and also a lack of hospital facilities, many Indians are trying to get out of their country, even many have fled to my country. btw, I read that the US is already planning to help India by sending vaccines from the US, I don't know if this will help but hopefully, the worries that occur in India subside.

What are the reasons for poverty? At least in the case of India, the main reason for poverty is that there are not enough natural resources for the huge population. Only around 1 million sq.km of arable land exists in India, and there are some 800 million plus people who are dependent on farming. That translates to less than one acre of farmland per farmer. Ideally the governments should encourage some of these farmers to move towards blue-collar or even white-collar jobs, but the farming lobby has put so many obstacles. Farming income (without any upper threshold) is 100% exempted from income tax, while blue-collar jobs are heavily taxed. Within India, the highest living standards are observed in the state of Kerala, where the fertility rate is 1.8 children per woman. On the other hand, the poorest state is Bihar, where the fertility rate is 4.0 children per woman. 

I don't know where you get this argument, which sounds Malthusian. Can you back it up with some links? The world population has not stopped growing and people are living longer and better. I understand that the problem is not so much population growth but that they are a poor country to begin with.

India has a population of 1.4 billion, which is growing at a rate of 2% per year. This is the root cause of most of the social issues in India (such as unemployment, poverty, lack of adequate medical care.etc). During this time also, the situation is no different. States where the population growth is low (such as Kerala and Tamil Nadu), there are enough facilities available for everyone. On the other hand, states with high population growth are suffering not just from the shortage of medical facilities, but also from the shortage of skilled medical staff.

The Covid-19 cases in India is rising rapidly, with the country having inadequate hospital beds and oxygen. And the number keep increasing, recording more than 345,000 cases in just one day. And what surprised me most is that India is known for producing the world largest Covid-19 Vaccine. The world health organization have to help them before the situation gets more critical. I think we can reduce the number of cases, if we take Covid-19 measures.

All anybody has to do is go to this thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-cure-for-covid-19-is-right-here-5252003 - and search through the various links that go outside the thread. Covid is nothing if you do something about it right in you own family and neighborhood.

The corona number from India are alarming. There is no real end in sight with the large number of infected people. Looking at the daily new cases it is devastating. The biggest problem in India is that too many people live in one house. If one member of a family is infected than it is very likely that everybody is catching the corona virus. There is just no space to self isolate yourself. And the global vaccine production is not even close to help a country like India.

Your suggestions are not practical. For how long everyone needs to stay at home? One year ago, India tried with complete lockdown, which lasted for 7 weeks (42 days). The impact of that lockdown is still visible in the form of economic contraction. And regarding the third booster dose of the vaccine, almost all the vaccine manufacturers have now made it clear that it may be mandatory. And from what I have heard, the booster dose needs to be taken 12 months after the second dose (not 6 months as you have posted).

And I am not sure how you are suggesting to trace down all the CoVID 19 patients. India is reporting close to 350,000 new patients every day. The real number may be >1,000,000. How you are proposing to trace down and isolate all these people?

What they need is to elect someone with a political will that will enforce everyone to stay at home because vaccines are not very effective, after 6 months you'll once again have to be vaccinated. Seem not really an effective vaccine.

It won't help still until they lock down every city they have and every village to trace each covid patient and secure them so they won't be infecting everyone else they encounter. How else did the other country did it but constantly watching every patient for them to no infect others.

If the elections campaigns were responsible for this big spike, then why Maharashtra remains as the worst affected state with one-fourth of the daily cases and one-third of the daily deaths? No election campaign is going on there. The second worst affected state is Delhi, and once again there are no election rallies going on there. The slow pace of vaccination is responsible for the spike in India. Initially the vaccination campaign was going on at a good pace, but they were forced to scale down after the US administration placed an embargo on the export of raw materials needed for vaccine production.

For one who spells out HCQ so well, and then talks about magic pixie dust, it's kinda obvious that you aren't into Covid cures much. If you were, you'd realize that there are many Covid cures that work well.

Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure?

Controlling Covid in India is easier than ever, now. Simply add mega-doses of thiamine (B1) to their diet, and Covid will go away - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56847746. And 'YES' point fingers. India scientists and medical people probably knew this all along.

     The thing that must be done is to think of better ways to counter this problem rather than pointing fingers because this can do nothing to better the situation in India in any way. Doing this is just childish and insignificant. Specially when part of the blame goes to the citizens themselves. While the ones at fault or the ones who failed to fulfill their duties towards the public should be punished, I believe that this can wait till the situation gets better and controlled. Would be nive if we all just donate and help that indian guy who is actually doing something to help by starting a campaign in twitter that invites all crypto enthusiasts all over the world to help rather than helping spread hate.

This is where the problem comes, who holds whom?
The citizens are the subjects while, the governments are the politicians and they are the reason for the spikes, they own the armed forces so, who holds whom? It becomes really difficult to stand accused of a rally when its allowed and a warning of strict adherence to Covid-19 principle was issued by these politicians.

It becomes a case of the citizens themselves not being law abiding and ti some extent puts the petitions out of the line on the blames even though, they are the reason for the gatherings. So, it all goes down to citizens not following Covid-19 principles.

Everything aplies to the current ruling party as well who are being as government right now? They are blaming the politicians then the government is the main reason for the spike.

And another news is the oxygen outage in that country which is taking many live even WHO talked about it and other countries should not do the things what India did when the cases were completely resolved after the first wave.