Indonesia Flooded with ilegal worker from China - page 4.

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Quote from: novemberwoah on January 21, 2017, 01:58:33 AM

Yes this is very ironic. Many people who are unemployed due to lack of jobs, but there are many tourists who have tourist visa can work and even they are being paid bigger. But the government is currently investigating and capturing foreign nationals working in Indonesia for deportation. Maybe it would be better if tourists had to use travel agents so that supervision easier. So, can the data on the number of incoming tourists to be the same as those returned to the country so that there is no illegal foreign nationals who work in Indonesia, it would be better in my opinion. And I also hope that this issue be overcome and the government is serious in taking care of this problem.

I dont think that they are going to hire them if its a higher wage its not production wise.

No, at around last October the government capture illegal foreign workers from China. They work as a laborer in a cement factory but they have a salary of about 15 million IDR in one month, while local workers who work as laborer only had a salary of about 2 million IDR in one month. That difference in the amount of very distant to me and it was very unfair. It would be detrimental to the local workers because jobs will be more narrow and will be a lot of unemployment.

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Quote from: countryfree on January 20, 2017, 09:11:51 PM

Chinese immigrants in Indonesia, really? I wasn't aware of that. I know some Europeans working in Bali with a 30-days tourist visa, so they have to make monthly trips to Hong Kong or Bangkok to get a new visa. The Chinese are probably just overstaying, but I wonder: are they hired by Indonesians looking for cheap labor, or are they hired by legal Chinese immigrants (or do they create businesses)?

Most often, the Chinese do not mix much with the locals. They create Chinese communities.

this is true. chinese people often help each other. when they will go to other countries, they make sure that they know where will they go or where will they ask for help. we know that almost all of the countries has its so called " china towns" where almost all of the people there are all chinese. but we could not say that they are legal. theres also a possibility that they might do ilegal things. where just a person and can commit crimes.

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This is just a wild claim without any logic. The average salary in Indonesia is much lower than the average salary in China. So why should a worker from China opt to work in Indonesia? It may be true that Indonesian factories are facing shortages in certain high-skill categories. So they may be importing labor from China to cover this shortage.

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The biggest porblem is that investors from china brought workers from low level to high level. They not only invest in funding but also bring workers.

http://www.republika.co.id/berita/ekonomi/makro/16/10/31/ofwle6382-investor-cina-bawa-pekerja-asing-level-bawah-masuk-ke-indonesia

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But it's a lot of news on television and on the internet, Chinese citizens in Indonesia is illegal and in violation of the rules began arrested by the police. I've also read the news about Chinese citizens who have identity card Indonesia but could not speak Indonesian. It's already indicated that he is illegal in Indonesia. Police efforts in handling this case is very good.

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Quote from: novemberwoah on January 21, 2017, 01:58:33 AM

Yes this is very ironic. Many people who are unemployed due to lack of jobs, but there are many tourists who have tourist visa can work and even they are being paid bigger. But the government is currently investigating and capturing foreign nationals working in Indonesia for deportation. Maybe it would be better if tourists had to use travel agents so that supervision easier. So, can the data on the number of incoming tourists to be the same as those returned to the country so that there is no illegal foreign nationals who work in Indonesia, it would be better in my opinion. And I also hope that this issue be overcome and the government is serious in taking care of this problem.

I dont think that they are going to hire them if its a higher wage its not production wise.

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Thats a problem. Theres a lot of indonesians are unemployed. The government must prioritize all people which unemployed from their country not those immigrants. Why they allow tourist to get a job there if they were just have a tourist visa? They should be deport once their expired. Tourist visa should be exclusively only for tourist not for job seekers. They should apply for working visa.

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Yes this is very ironic. Many people who are unemployed due to lack of jobs, but there are many tourists who have tourist visa can work and even they are being paid bigger. But the government is currently investigating and capturing foreign nationals working in Indonesia for deportation. Maybe it would be better if tourists had to use travel agents so that supervision easier. So, can the data on the number of incoming tourists to be the same as those returned to the country so that there is no illegal foreign nationals who work in Indonesia, it would be better in my opinion. And I also hope that this issue be overcome and the government is serious in taking care of this problem.

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Chinese immigrants in Indonesia, really? I wasn't aware of that. I know some Europeans working in Bali with a 30-days tourist visa, so they have to make monthly trips to Hong Kong or Bangkok to get a new visa. The Chinese are probably just overstaying, but I wonder: are they hired by Indonesians looking for cheap labor, or are they hired by legal Chinese immigrants (or do they create businesses)?

Most often, the Chinese do not mix much with the locals. They create Chinese communities.

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Quote from: Karloff on January 20, 2017, 02:49:48 PM

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There are a lot of Indonesian people who are unemployed. However, Free Visa for tourists coming to Indonesia has caused documents abused. The tourists not only visit indonesia but also work. This an irony. Indonesia now is facing complect political issue of sectarian. Oh Indonesia, I hope You can overcome all the problems.

The more immigrants entering the country the more they ruin your life. Migrants who are fleeing their country is not the most educated people. Why do you need such people? They are unable to build their country and will destroy your.

In fact, yes, they take some unskilled work field that Indonesian people also need the job. That's horrible.

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Quote from: bitcoinvestor on January 20, 2017, 11:56:48 AM

There are a lot of Indonesian people who are unemployed. However, Free Visa for tourists coming to Indonesia has caused documents abused. The tourists not only visit indonesia but also work. This an irony. Indonesia now is facing complect political issue of sectarian. Oh Indonesia, I hope You can overcome all the problems.

The more immigrants entering the country the more they ruin your life. Migrants who are fleeing their country is not the most educated people. Why do you need such people? They are unable to build their country and will destroy your.

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the problem is not in the system of free visa for tourist. the problem is the tourist it self. they should have a program which can take care of all the tourist that is entering your country. that way they can manage and can trace all the foreigners that is entering your country. they should make some reminders and if you say tourist they should not make it longer than a month.

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Since the Government is run by a "handful" of people, Government is illegal if it disagrees with the will of a majority of the people.

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Quote from: philggg on January 20, 2017, 12:02:10 PM

the issue of expertrate and immigrants is one of the major problems countries are facing,we cannot rule it out because poorer countries are in search of better income and wages, so if the economy of a country is better than the other expect such

It seems to me that immigrants are not needed in any country. These people can't do anything for the country in which they are traveling. These people are not working for the good of the Motherland why would they work for the benefit of another country?

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the issue of expertrate and immigrants is one of the major problems countries are facing,we cannot rule it out because poorer countries are in search of better income and wages, so if the economy of a country is better than the other expect such

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There are a lot of Indonesian people who are unemployed. However, Free Visa for tourists coming to Indonesia has caused documents abused. The tourists not only visit indonesia but also work. This an irony. Indonesia now is facing complect political issue of sectarian. Oh Indonesia, I hope You can overcome all the problems.

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