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October 31, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
#74
Yes, It's the same situation in Vietnam too, the goverment already made a law that prohibited guys who use bitcoin as the official payment and you could be busted by using it at a method payment.

Those countries are moving a step back with regards to this new technology. Their argument is very dumbfounded. Indonesia and Vietnam has a large user based and banning it as payment method is not right. Again their is nothing in nothing bad in having bitcoin being used as payment method. I guess they want to follow China on this, but we already know that no nation can really stop bitcoin, if they think that they can stop it, wait till they found out that bitcoin will continue to exist in their country underground.
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October 31, 2017, 01:58:37 PM
#73
Yes, It's the same situation in Vietnam too, the goverment already made a law that prohibited guys who use bitcoin as the official payment and you could be busted by using it at a method payment.
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October 31, 2017, 01:36:03 PM
#72
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/
Well not every country really agree with bitcoins system or the idea of digital currency because i think it is a threat to them their being cautious and vigilant only because as you know bitcoin can be used in every transactions and it doesnt apply the term traced because it is anonymous. Theyre only preventing the mass damage or the crime acts as possible
I think bitcoin is now used to with these kind of banned because when china banned bitcoin so that was a very hard for bitcoin and the way bitcoin fight with this banned I will must appreciate bitcoin and now it’s not a very big challenge for bitcoin I hope bitcoin will handle this situation very easily so my best wishes are with bitcoin all the time.
legendary
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October 31, 2017, 12:07:45 PM
#71
yet another bitcoin ban story.
i wonder why the likes of indonesia are moving in the opposite direction to japan and australia?
there can be benefits to adopting crypto as the report states about australia who are looking to attract fintech startups,
they obviously see a benefit to their economy from it.
Funny, I would even say that the likes of Indonesians are the ones I normally see accepting Bitcoin.

By the way, I don’t think they did anything wrong or maybe banned Bitcoin. It says they banned Bitcoin as a payment method, and not that they banned it as a whole. Well, in my own understanding, they were right, bitcoin is never a payment method but just an investment. People are taking this too far.
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October 31, 2017, 09:00:27 AM
#70
I think Indonesian ban did not that affect on bitcoin as Chinese ban did, I think Indonesian Govt. did not take bitcoin as an opportunity.
BTW Indonesian currency is one the down currency in the world, I think this is only reason to ban the Bitcoins.
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October 31, 2017, 08:37:14 AM
#69
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/

bitcoin not baned in indonesia
all indonesian people still can use bitcoin, local exchanger still open without problem , indonesia central bank just forbid bitcoin use payament method



I think they are just renewing the 2014 argreements in which the indonesian government banned cryptocurrency as methods of payment.They did not totally banned bitcoin in there country but they are just allowing their citizen to earn bitcoin through encashment instead of paying it directly.
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October 31, 2017, 08:28:13 AM
#68
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/

I think that they're country is not that ready for bitcoin. They haven't realized that bitcoin is a good investment and it is convenient to use. It's true that bitcoin is risky, maybe that's the reason why they want to ban bitcoin in their country.
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October 31, 2017, 08:33:18 AM
#68
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/

bitcoin not baned in indonesia
all indonesian people still can use bitcoin, local exchanger still open without problem , indonesia central bank just forbid bitcoin use payament method
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October 31, 2017, 08:22:54 AM
#67
i have just read about that news but i want to remind you all that bitcoin is the decentralized currency and no one can affect the rate of bitcoin because we can see the example in previous history like china. they has also tried about bicoin banned but it had no affect on bitcoin rate.
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October 31, 2017, 08:16:37 AM
#66
That reads to me as there is an inherent risk associated with bitcoin its just a warning not a outright ban on bitcoin.
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October 31, 2017, 08:12:07 AM
#65
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/
I think it means Indonesian people not use bitcoin to payment but they must transaction with rupiahs. So, Indonesian people can change bitcoin into rupiahs with exchanger Smiley
legendary
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October 31, 2017, 07:42:06 AM
#64
I just saw this news thread now but the report mentions
that the initial announcement was made back in 2014
so i take it the central bank there is re-issuing its warning.

Maybe Bitcoin is actually getting more popular there?

Anyway as with the China ICO and Bitcoin ban it will not
have a negative effect long term.
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October 31, 2017, 07:29:48 AM
#63
yet another bitcoin ban story.
i wonder why the likes of indonesia are moving in the opposite direction to japan and australia?
there can be benefits to adopting crypto as the report states about australia who are looking to attract fintech startups,
they obviously see a benefit to their economy from it.

I just now got this knowledge that bitcoin was banned in indonesia.But i hope this is not gonna make any big defects in bitcoin value like what happened in china ban.This is because the china is most populated country and an well devoloped country in technology field so many people will use bitcoin in china but in indonesia its is not a big country and it is devoloping nation i think there are many people in indonesia don't know about bitcoin so it will not be a problem for bitcoin,but it is problem for their country people because the bitcoin will help the people in devoloping the living style.
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October 31, 2017, 07:17:19 AM
#62
This is just normal, since bitcoin is just new to them, central banks will make sure that they understand how cryptocurrencies work, i think there should be a word from their government bannig bitcoin itself, rather than the central bank, though it is ruled by the government, the government itself still has the final say for it. This is always what happens to countries who recognizes bitcoin, their central bank will first try to regulate it and we might see it happenig in the future, considering thr fact that its nrighboring countries welcomed bitcoin, and is being used now.
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October 31, 2017, 07:08:14 AM
#61
yet another bitcoin ban story.
i wonder why the likes of indonesia are moving in the opposite direction to japan and australia?
there can be benefits to adopting crypto as the report states about australia who are looking to attract fintech startups,
they obviously see a benefit to their economy from it.
sr. member
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October 31, 2017, 06:37:12 AM
#60
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

Quote

I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/
Another FUD to bring price down so that they citizens can buy it at cheap prices!  I will hold my coin as I did not see any risk in it. Bitcoin has been surviving without any support or suggestions from our governments and central bank. Indonesia is not even all that popular with bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies. This attack will continue but one thing that I used to encouraged myself is that bitcoin is a discovery and with time our governments and leaders will come to see it as a helping tools to humanity intead of treating it as an enemy.
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October 31, 2017, 06:35:27 AM
#59
Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin and say

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I must emphasize that BI does not see bitcoin as an official payment tool in Indonesia so all people should know not to use Bitcoin as a means of payment. There is a risk.


Source of news https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-banned-payment-method-adopters-will-dealt-indonesian-central-bank/

This is the kind of "oficial" statement central banques are issuing around the globe. The countries have rules and the monetary system as well. Here in Portugal our central bank issue something similar trying to stress out "the risk" of crypto as it is not regulated nor considered a valid currency. What i see a little diferente here is the "threat" to the adopters. Do they mean it? or is it just FUD?
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October 31, 2017, 06:25:16 AM
#58

This has been brought up before. To clarify, nowhere in the statement does it actually say ban. What is prohibited is to accept is as payment. This is only natural, as has been the same, unchanging stance for the central bank since 2014. This is exactly the same as with neighbours Malaysia in the same year - both central banks are historically on the same page when it comes to digital currency. They had the exact position with e-gold a decade before this, and with Paypal years earlier.

All these positions have actually been the result of use by groups linked to pyramid/ponzi/hyip schemes who use these currencies/payment processors.

Since 2014, not a single action has been taken against those using the prohibited currencies for personal, OTC, or private transactions. All known exchanges are still operating today, and localbitcoins volume has not been affected.

So don't worry. If you aren't doing anything naughty, you're good.
Thank you for Clarification, then after all the Indonesian Government just doing nothing for their law? Therefore the Law is just for "person who used bitcoin on bad activities" ?

All I'm saying is, the typical Bitcoin user should have nothing to worry about. These central bank warnings are not new in our part of the world, and serve as cautionary advice to people unfamiliar with it - as they are usually hearing it for the first time as a "get rich scheme", and then when they lose their funds they turn to the central banks, who in some part guarantee the safety of funds stored in regulated banks (BI and BNM for example guarantee all customer funds in banks, up to a certain limit).

Of course there is always a risk when the government steps in, but if they really made moves, you'd hear it first from the exchangers you're likely using. Luno and Localbitcoins come to mind. The motives behind these statements are unclear, made worse by media who don't understand them.

In worst-case scenario, the banks will want to ensure citizens have a chance to act before just seizing anything to avoid fallout.
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October 31, 2017, 05:53:32 AM
#57
But some say that bitcoin is prohibited only for the means of payment because it is required to use their currency is not bitcoin for buying and selling bitcoin exchanger Indonesia is still operating
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October 31, 2017, 05:51:21 AM
#56
It's a warning, it doesn't say anything about banning the use of bitcoin.
As we can see at the last words, it says " We see using bitcoin as a risk".
It's okay, most of the countries have announced that bitcoin is a risky investment, it doesn't mean that they have banned it, it just says that they want to give a warning to their people, but can't have a solid statement on the coin right now.

That's what i thought when i readed the thread, but after taking a look at the original article i found that OP forgot to quote the most important statement which is: "The head of Bank Indonesia, Indonesia’s central bank, has threatened action against bitcoin adopters if the cryptocurrency is used as a method of payment."
Bank Indonesia is threatening any one that accepts Bitcoin as payment method. Such statements will, for sure, have an impact on Bitcoin value.
most likely the rule was made by the Indonesian government to anyone who made payment transactions using bitcoin without first switching to local currency that exist then it could be very risky and violate the existing law because the official payment transaction tool in Indonesia only use rupiah instead of bitcoin .
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