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how can any debt based economy survive a endless deflation? the problem is the system based on debt, not the inflation
Spot on. It cannot survive it.
Topic: Inflation and Deflation of Price and Money Supply - page 33. (Read 1475921 times)
Spot on. It cannot survive it.
Moral of the story, deflation tends to be a good thing, inflation tends to be a bad thing, despite what happened in the 20s...
This could be debatable depending on perspective. Certainly extreme inflation is a bad thing. However, one could argue that low (1% to 2%) inflation is acceptable and arguably a good thing. It spurs spending and investment, overall promoting economic activity. Value is higher now than it will be in the future so it causes one to not hold onto cash (or spend it). Which is exactly why the Fed has a 2% inflation target. Low inflation spurs spending, investment and economic activity. Economic theory would suggest that deflation just causes people to hoard "cash" and not spend since value will be higher in the future, so you forgo spending now for spending later. Which is what you see a lot of bitcoiners doing now. This deflationary aspect of bitcoin is a primary driver as to why so many people are seeing Bitcoin as an investment asset. I'd argue that more people are holding onto bitcoin more so than using it as a means of "money".
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The richest and the most powerful people buy gold now.
Moral of the story, deflation tends to be a good thing, inflation tends to be a bad thing, despite what happened in the 20s...
The strengthening of the dollar as well as political risk in France is likely to press down the EURUSD pair in Asian session testing to the support level at 1.0680.
how can any debt based economy survive a endless deflation? the problem is the system based on debt, not the inflation
GBPUSD potentially continue to move sideways in the European session, but break down 1.2500 support will trigger pressure down towards the next support around 1.2450.
Economic multi functionallity is needed for the price to not be revolving around scarcity.
At the moment the only thing money is good for is to be used as a medium of exchange or a good or service, it serves no other value.
Should we create a system where that is just a moving part, then we would create function beyond just the that which would impact the value as well.
Scarcity should not drive the value on things, it is a complete lack of abundance - which we can see based on natural systems all around us is not a sustainable design. Abundance is an inbuilt function in everything we analyse in the natural world.
From Germination to Hydrology right the way back up to Photosynthesis
At the moment the only thing money is good for is to be used as a medium of exchange or a good or service, it serves no other value.
Should we create a system where that is just a moving part, then we would create function beyond just the that which would impact the value as well.
Scarcity should not drive the value on things, it is a complete lack of abundance - which we can see based on natural systems all around us is not a sustainable design. Abundance is an inbuilt function in everything we analyse in the natural world.
From Germination to Hydrology right the way back up to Photosynthesis
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Real price change occurs when money is not involved.
I will explain with an axample:
Assume;
1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread.
If quantity of beer increased by 100% in the market, real inflation occurs like this:
2 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
When money involved price change does not affect anything.
Assume;
$1 = 1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
If quantity of $ increased by 100% in the market, real inflation occurs like this:
$2 = 1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
Since $ is not a real thing, real life didn't change by quantity of $.
Money when used as a means of exchange is just a virtual tool. Therefore if you price everything in money (as it's done everywhere for simplicity) your pricing system, inflation, deflation are imaginary.
Real price change occurs when money is not involved.
I will explain with an axample:
Assume;
1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread.
If quantity of beer increased by 100% in the market, real inflation occurs like this:
2 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
When money involved price change does not affect anything.
Assume;
$1 = 1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
If quantity of $ increased by 100% in the market, real inflation occurs like this:
$2 = 1 beer = 1 apple = 1 hr work = 1 orange = 1 bread
Since $ is not a real thing, real life didn't change by quantity of $.
Money when used as a means of exchange is just a virtual tool. Therefore if you price everything in money (as it's done everywhere for simplicity) your pricing system, inflation, deflation are imaginary.
Lol, your comparing is very funny , dude. But you can't compare things like that , 1 hour work = 1 bread=1 orange ? Really ? HaHaHa. you should compare everything into 1 currency so everything will be more easy to image . but 1 more time, it's funny hahaha .
Bitcoin is very volatile and the market movements are faster compared to fiats.
Yes, bitcoin is totally fluctuate so fast unlike to dollar.
This is why we love bitcoin, the fast movement of its value. We need do not need to worry increasing will be more this year for sure. The upwards trend of bitcoin always seems to be good sign for bitcoin.
Agree , this consolidation of 1000$ , strong position , to keeping up tendence
Bitcoin is very volatile and the market movements are faster compared to fiats.
Yes, bitcoin is totally fluctuate so fast unlike to dollar.
This is why we love bitcoin, the fast movement of its value. We need do not need to worry increasing will be more this year for sure. The upwards trend of bitcoin always seems to be good sign for bitcoin.
Agree , this consolidation of 1000$ , strong position , to keeping up tendence
Bitcoin is very volatile and the market movements are faster compared to fiats.
Yes, bitcoin is totally fluctuate so fast unlike to dollar.
This is why we love bitcoin, the fast movement of its value. We need do not need to worry increasing will be more this year for sure. The upwards trend of bitcoin always seems to be good sign for bitcoin.
anyone can give a predict about the price of bitcoin? going up or down?
It is hard to predict the chart of bitcoin, since we have a fluctuated price of it.
Determining the price will be difficult to figure out.
anyone can give a predict about the price of bitcoin? going up or down?
The basic answer is that it depends on factors such as the velocity of circulation (number of times money changes hands), the state of the economy and the growth in productive capacity (the Long Run Aggregate Supply LRAS).
I am very close to inflation. In my country recently, how many have not added a salary, everything is being eaten up by inflation. And the level of the national currency in general has become so cheap that it has fallen three times recently.
The basic answer is that it depends on factors such as the velocity of circulation (number of times money changes hands), the state of the economy and the growth in productive capacity (the Long Run Aggregate Supply LRAS).
did you read the news that Europe is thinking take out the paper money in the next years? any thoughts on that?
As far as I remember the news was that they wanted to move to plastic banknotes. This idea was about the dollar. To increase the service life of banknotes. And plastic the pounds I already have. In any case, in the future, all the force will be transferred to the payment card. It is connected with the fight against corruption and tax evasionI don't think the main reason is to extend the service life of physical money
Really, the life of a typical payment card is in most cases limited to just a few years (2-3 years on average). Personally, I had and have a lot of such cards, and only one of them has a 5 year lifetime. After expiration, they are useless and can be thrown away. I guess good cotton bills are more "durable" in this respect. As to me, the main reasons which explain moving from paper money are gaining more control over finances of the population and likely preventing counterfeiting. Counterfeiters are not just some rogue individuals, whole governments can counterfeit other governments' money. Apparently, in the latter case the counterfeit money will be virtually indistinguishable from the genuine money
Bitcoin is very volatile and the market movements are faster compared to fiats.
Exactly why the prices aren't stable but keeps fluctuating thereby creating artificial inflation and deflation.
did you read the news that Europe is thinking take out the paper money in the next years? any thoughts on that?
As far as I remember the news was that they wanted to move to plastic banknotes. This idea was about the dollar. To increase the service life of banknotes. And plastic the pounds I already have. In any case, in the future, all the force will be transferred to the payment card. It is connected with the fight against corruption and tax evasion. Jump to: