Topic: [INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread - page 17. (Read 85028 times)
Grading done by machines may be the way of the future and more reliable and accurate. So accurate that it might make a 10 near impossible.
On the grading
Ive sent in a comic I thought was PERFECT Silver Surfer #4 with Thor low mintage
centered right, color was vivid, zero imperfections I figured 9.4 at the least
came back 8.5 Makes me think only the buds ( dealers ) get the best grades. Still got over $800 for it
Ive sent in a comic I thought was PERFECT Silver Surfer #4 with Thor low mintage
centered right, color was vivid, zero imperfections I figured 9.4 at the least
came back 8.5 Makes me think only the buds ( dealers ) get the best grades. Still got over $800 for it
OMG, Artificial Intelligence to grade the cards...SERIOUSLY? 
I think that we're looking at the next #1 card grading service. Please, please, please do post some pictures when you get your cards back. Looks like PSA is going to be taken to school, in a huge way....and ALL the other "subjective" graders out there. Such cool things coming our way..... 
* I just signed up.
I think that we're looking at the next #1 card grading service. Please, please, please do post some pictures when you get your cards back. Looks like PSA is going to be taken to school, in a huge way....and ALL the other "subjective" graders out there. Such cool things coming our way..... * I just signed up.
Hello All,
After further examination outside in sunlight/magnify...I noticed a crease on the PSA 2, on the front side.
So maybe a Grade 2 is warranted after all...
After further examination outside in sunlight/magnify...I noticed a crease on the PSA 2, on the front side.
So maybe a Grade 2 is warranted after all...
We should all fire PSA and start our own grading company? Who's in?
I just got this back! I would have graded it a 9 probably. Crisp corners.
PSA is literally drunk grading these. And they want an UPCHARGE too??!!
Neeeeext!
https://imgur.com/a/iAsJusD
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format. maybe i'll just do pictures next time.
I just got this back! I would have graded it a 9 probably. Crisp corners.
PSA is literally drunk grading these. And they want an UPCHARGE too??!!
Neeeeext!
https://imgur.com/a/iAsJusD
Double posr edit
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format. maybe i'll just do pictures next time.
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https://hybridgrading.com/
This is a newer company that uses AI to grade. I am trying them out with a few submissions. Attractive slabs and detailed scoring. 60 business days $20 per card.
This is a newer company that uses AI to grade. I am trying them out with a few submissions. Attractive slabs and detailed scoring. 60 business days $20 per card.
The bad thing is, the Goldie Locks card is going to be a top tier card in the years ahead, difficult to get your hands on them....GP got stung on that one....badly 
On a more serious note, I know from experience if you tried to call PSA you would get voice mail that says leave a message if you want a call back. Then it would say sorry, the mailbox is full call back tomorrow. I'm sure they would love to get the PSA 2 card back as I doubt they want it shared on instagram. I personally if I was running PSA, would be having a discussion with the grader and also the reviewers as it goes through two quality control stages after it is graded. Not going to ride this ride anymore, let me off. I doubt they do a down charge, only up charges
I doubt they do a down charge, only up charges
*singing the graded card song
...it's graded as junk-- now ain't that a bitch, Come on now and sing it with me, paying more for massively down graded cards ...
(Intended to be taken in stride, no offense intended.
)
...it's graded as junk-- now ain't that a bitch, Come on now and sing it with me, paying more for massively down graded cards ...
(Intended to be taken in stride, no offense intended.
)
I don't care. They represented incompetence from my point of view.
I'm starting my own Card Grading "SERVICE"! Ha!
PSA is a basement operation at best, propped up by Beckett and the other publications.
Humans!
I'm starting my own Card Grading "SERVICE"! Ha!
PSA is a basement operation at best, propped up by Beckett and the other publications.
Humans!
At least it's "Authenticated"......but seriously!!!!! Give them a call, ask them if there were any notes on this card.....I'd wanna know why.
Yep, card centering is a little off. But a grade 2 ??! 
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
A goldie got a &^@#& 2 You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
At least it's "Authenticated"......but seriously!!!!! Give them a call, ask them if there were any notes on this card.....I'd wanna know why. Every now and again, you just gotta call: BULLSHIT !!!
Yep, card centering is a little off. But a grade 2 ??!
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
A goldie got a &^@#& 2 You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
Yep, card centering is a little off. But a grade 2 ??!
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
The Plastic HOLDER, has more dings, scratches, blemishes...than THE ACTUAL CARD!!
Go figure, PSA collectors.
A goldie got a &^@#& 2 You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
A goldie got a &^@#& 2 You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
You should call them, give them the cert number, and ask the if the grader was drinking his own bath water.
We should all fire PSA and start our own grading company? Who's in?
I just got this back! I would have graded it a 9 probably. Crisp corners.
PSA is literally drunk grading these. And they want an UPCHARGE too??!!
Neeeeext!
https://imgur.com/a/iAsJusD
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format. maybe i'll just do pictures next time.
I just got this back! I would have graded it a 9 probably. Crisp corners.
PSA is literally drunk grading these. And they want an UPCHARGE too??!!
Neeeeext!
https://imgur.com/a/iAsJusD
Double posr edit
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format. maybe i'll just do pictures next time.
*singing the "Upcharge" song .....(set to the tune of "Carwash")
Lemme tell ya it's bettah than diggin' a ditch, gonna get Up Charged Yeah! Come on now and sing it with me, Up Charge Yeah!
*Thank you for the population report,
Lemme tell ya it's bettah than diggin' a ditch, gonna get Up Charged Yeah! Come on now and sing it with me, Up Charge Yeah!
*Thank you for the population report,
PSA can & will send you an email, or call you if they UPGRADE your bill. My card shop told me that they've had it happen to them many times. So, if you think that your bill is going to remain what you think it is....if it gets a 10, or is a high dollar card...don't be surprised if you get a notice of an up-charge. 
Welcome to the Big Leagues Gentlemen 
Welcome to the Big Leagues Gentlemen The up charge depending on how many cards received a psa 10 can run up quite a lot so put aside extra funds for this if you expect you will be receiving PSA 10's.
Double posr edit
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
yes. that card must be beat up for sure. i started scale where it shows. took some time to get in that format. maybe i'll just do pictures next time.
Double posr edit
I see a score of psa 2 when you go to the 2018 allen and ginter psa population. You don't show that.
Double posr edit
Here is the pop report as of March 23 2021
Card 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Totl
Cryptocurrency X Full-Sized 0 1 0 1 16 64 24 106
Cryptocurrency X Black Mini 0 0 0 2 8 23 1 34
Cryptocurrency X Red Mini 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 2
Cryptocurrency Glossy 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Gold 0 0 1 1 0 0 6 8
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Color 0 0 2 1 1 0 37 41
Cryptocurrency Mini-A & G Back 0 0 0 1 0 6 59 66
Cryptocurrency Mini-Black 0 1 0 0 0 3 58 62
Cryptocurrency Mini-Brooklyn Back 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 6
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Black Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Cyan Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Magenta Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Yellow Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glossy 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glow in the Dark 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3
Cryptocurrency Mini-Gold 0 0 1 1 1 4 30 38
Cryptocurrency Mini 0 0 0 2 0 20 81 103
Cryptocurrency 0 0 1 1 15 88 275 380
Silver Glossy 0 0 0 0 0 – – 0
Cryptocurrency No Number 0 0 0 1 1 5 6 13
Card 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Totl
Cryptocurrency X Full-Sized 0 1 0 1 16 64 24 106
Cryptocurrency X Black Mini 0 0 0 2 8 23 1 34
Cryptocurrency X Red Mini 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 2
Cryptocurrency Glossy 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Gold 0 0 1 1 0 0 6 8
Cryptocurrency Jumbo 5x7 Color 0 0 2 1 1 0 37 41
Cryptocurrency Mini-A & G Back 0 0 0 1 0 6 59 66
Cryptocurrency Mini-Black 0 1 0 0 0 3 58 62
Cryptocurrency Mini-Brooklyn Back 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 6
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Black Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Cyan Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Magenta Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Framed Yellow Print Plate 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glossy 1/1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1
Cryptocurrency Mini-Glow in the Dark 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3
Cryptocurrency Mini-Gold 0 0 1 1 1 4 30 38
Cryptocurrency Mini 0 0 0 2 0 20 81 103
Cryptocurrency 0 0 1 1 15 88 275 380
Silver Glossy 0 0 0 0 0 – – 0
Cryptocurrency No Number 0 0 0 1 1 5 6 13
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