Topic: [INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread - page 62. (Read 85028 times)

I agree with this.  Ebay has most volume by far.

If you want ungraded cards (or the more common cards), then yes, eBay is a good place to score a deal. If you're looking for graded cards (or the rarer cards), then I'm sure you'll get the best deal from a member on this forum.

Good luck on the hunt!

Regards,
Chris

I do not collect the "historical" six, so I'll refrain from offering my opinion on those cards.

Regards,
Chris

If I wanted to buy a couple more BTC cards as keepsakes, is Ebay typically the best avenue to go?

How would you rank the historical 6 Chris?  Seems that our opinions vary on the "value" line-up. I agree that the rarity factor matters, and until we get a definitive on that, we're all just speculating. Still....kinda fun to know that we're all over the map here...

Hmm...If I were to list them in order, the order would be based on my subjective aesthetic value. If we want the list to be of a more objective value based on rarity, then we'd have to find know how rare a few of the cards may be. For instance, are the gold border minis rarer than the black border minis, and are the full size silver glossy cards rarer than the full size Ginter X cards? I have no idea.

However, based on a combination of my personal aesthetic preferences and my gut instinct for rarity, I'd rank them like this:

Lowest first:

Full size base
Silver glossy
Base mini
A & G mini
Gold border
Black border
Full size black x
Black x mini
Nno
Glow in the dark / Brooklyn back (Same odds, but I prefer Brooklyn back more.)
Red x mini
Silver x mini

But who really knows?

Regards,
Chris

As far as the 6 inserts go I would place in this order

18
84
259
204
222
83

As far as your other list, not counting 1/1's here is my list

Regular size base
Silver glossy
black and gold border (tied)
base mini  A&G back
base mini ( My opinion there are less of these than the A&G back)
ginter x base
NNO
ginter x mini
glow in the dark
brooklyn back
ginter x red mini

Dolfriends, make a line up list for us would you? Could look back and see who got it right....anyone's call right now...I bet we come close 
Here's mine again. 



 Lowest first:

Full size base
Base mini
A & G mini
Black border
Silver glossy
Full size all black x
Gold border
Black x mini
Nno
Brooklyn back
Glow in the dark
Red x mini


Does this sound about right?
Also, what would be the line up for the History-6?

18
204
222
259 strictly on eye appeal
84 historical significance
83 historical significance

I would give the black border and the gold border even odds so it comes down to personal taste.  I still rank the blank back as the most valuable card of all and the printing plates just behind it.   The mini wood above the mini silver if they are ever found and the question comes up as to which one is more valuable.  I put the red mini's above the 1/1 glossys mainly for eye appeal.  

retail box's

I think the gold has always been worth a bit more, but now I forget where the golds are even found.... are they from Hot Boxes?

Okay, fair enough  ....here's a black border that ended about 20 minutes ago, ungraded. $46. The last ungraded Gold went for $71 and $4 shipping on Jan 10th...I know because I bought it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-and-Ginter-Mini-Black-Border-83-Cryptocurrency/113580960761


*Does anyone know what the odds of getting a gold border is? One in ten for the black, I think.... I just think the gold border is of greater value and I was trying to make a point...definitely not trying to upset anyone or be confrontational. Just make my point, and give opinion is all. Very interested in seeing where Becketts would stage these cards in order of value.

C'mon, Fattcatt. Those links are comparing apples to oranges. The gold mini is a BUY IT NOW (which is effectively an ending price). The black mini is an auction (with almost 2 days left for bidding). Plus, the gold mini is PSA-graded (and a stunning 10 grade, at that). The black mini is ungraded. The gold mini has a wildly unfair advantage in the comparison.

Regards,
Chris

gold:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-10-GEM-MT-2018-Allen-Ginter-Cryptocurrency-Mini-Gold-Parallel-83-SP-POP-8/113599949807?hash=item1a7315abef:g:6FIAAOSwbIZcTSZy:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true


black:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Topps-Allen-and-Ginter-black-border-mini-parallel-Cryptocurrency-SP/254094115760?hash=item3b293083b0:g:1YgAAOSwg1JcRnCD:rk:14:pf:0


Gold = more value 

Where would you put the Glowie?   And, you feel the black border is of more value than the gold? It's a 1 in every 10 card, if I remember right...  And you put the Silver glossy just above the Base??? Wha....?

Will be interesting to see where others weigh in at....

We're close on the History 6 :

18
204
222
259 strictly on eye appeal
84 historical significance
83 historical significance

FS  base - most numerous
FS Glossy - most sturdy of all card variants, long term I think we'll see easiest to grade 10
Base mini - somewhat numerous
FS black x - only placed higher than a mini as it has shown a hard grader
Ag mini - historical ad back card...first variation of minis, harder to pull than the above
Gold mini - lower than the below as this is the easiest card to farm as you buy packs explicitly knowing golds are within. Not plausible with bborders and due to the double wrapping - it's most well protected when opening - we'll see many 10s
Black border mini - sure, 1 out of 10 packs is a bborder... 1 out of 350 bborders is an 83 bborder - to me this makes it a harder to farm card, numerically speaking, the black border mini set has been the hardest (non-rare)to complete
X mini - due to difficulty in grading and scarcity.
Glow - only due to scarcity. More scarce than Brooklyn I bet but it's kinda gimicky
Nno - due to scarcity alone
Brooklyn - this variant a & g has a history of use, previously known as the bazooka back. Scarcity * history of popularity and known rarity=automatic value
Red mini-scarcity
1/1s

18 - only included cuz its a non human card. Still sport related.
204 -still sport related, but multiple audiences may like this card as it was a multi sport stadium
84 - honestly no eye appeal, but belongs in this set as a non human
222/259 equally, 222 more scarcely seen, but 259 much more eye appeal.
83

222, 259, 83... Blame Dolph & mantis box sets. These will forever be the holy trinity of non sport cards in this set. All 3 have more eye appeal than their cohorts. When I see any one of these, I think of the other two. I consider this the non human A set whereas 18, 204, 84 are the B set companion. Though admittedly 84 could jump into a set and I see the argument there as its truly non - sport related.

In any caee, value is up to the buyer.  

Forgot to add... I value the minis higher in general due to the history of tobacco sized cards & A&Gs history of use with them. To me the FS cards are the secondary product in the packs.

Was wondering how the line-up for these cards would go, if one was ranking them in order of value.


Lowest first:

Full size base
Base mini
A & G mini
Black border
Silver glossy
Full size all black x
Gold border
Black x mini
Nno
Brooklyn back
Glow in the dark
Red x mini


Does this sound about right?
Also, what would be the line up for the History-6?

LOL Good one, anonymousminer.


Thanks for the advice, Mrstacy. That sounds good to me.


No real hurry, so I'll give that some thought. Thanks, owlz.

Regards,
Chris

Unless in a hurry, I would start at like 800, then lower it if no watchers etc. 🤷‍♂️

Since an ungraded Brooklyn (1/25) sold for 140 via ebay auction and glow-in-the-darks are roughly 1/3 fewer, i would say 420ish using linear progression, but this is graded and a 10 at that!  put it up for 600 or best offer.