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Topic: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk (Read 7532 times)

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AMT_miner, where is my refund, so rediculous you can not just keep quit, be a man do repsonble for what you caused.  give me the refund.
AMT order #645 and #962, where is my refund?

I paid you for 20BTC, now you just keep quiet.

legendary
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Michael Millican (sp) spent less than 5 years in jail over his bloody-near a BILLION ripoff of folks.

 I don't remember the details, something about junk bond fraud....



some one in US just recently had the book trowed at him  for bitcoins related crimes some of it was unfair but i guess they don't care in  US any more and getting really tired of this kind of stuff.

but yea if the US doesn't come after him and they don't recover the coins hell Pretty much get a way with it but they are creaking down on it here. it wasn't dot.com it was some one else when i find it I'll link it . they wanted to make a example of hm and did .
legendary
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Michael Millican (sp) spent less than 5 years in jail over his bloody-near a BILLION ripoff of folks.

 I don't remember the details, something about junk bond fraud....
legendary
Activity: 1274
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Storm in a tea-cup really ... 5th paragraph says:

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If found guilty, Karpeles could face up to five years in prison, or a fine of up to 500,000 yen (£2,650).



nice link first time I read about it . he refused to come to the US for questioning , well if hes found guilty etc there, after his five years is up the US will pick him up and the US may still under some other law He could be in jail for 30 or 40 years . you just don't lose 390 M and expect no one to care or notice then once it's over a few years later popup and on some iland live in like a king . lmao.
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Just a regular guy who likes his fiber.
One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

Japan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Karpeles is toast.

Reading article it's insane to think of keeping "MtGox said 750,000 customer bitcoins and another 100,000 belonging to the exchange were stolen due to a software security flaw." in a hot wallet.  I cannot imagine 850,000 BTC in a hot wallet.  Just even if they talked about security I cannot imagine someone suggesting hey ... lets move most of this to cold wallet and only keep so much online.

Too bad Zipkin didn't rip off any Japanese clients.

That we know of.

The order list he gave over to the court only had US orders not international orders.

Also I was just thinking about it, and zipkin referred to us as avengers. He does know the avengers are the good guys right? Maybe he fancies him-self a super villain rather than a petty crook.
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One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

Japan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Karpeles is toast.

Reading article it's insane to think of keeping "MtGox said 750,000 customer bitcoins and another 100,000 belonging to the exchange were stolen due to a software security flaw." in a hot wallet.  I cannot imagine 850,000 BTC in a hot wallet.  Just even if they talked about security I cannot imagine someone suggesting hey ... lets move most of this to cold wallet and only keep so much online.

Too bad Zipkin didn't rip off any Japanese clients.
legendary
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One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

Japan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Karpeles is toast.

Reading article it's insane to think of keeping "MtGox said 750,000 customer bitcoins and another 100,000 belonging to the exchange were stolen due to a software security flaw." in a hot wallet.  I cannot imagine 850,000 BTC in a hot wallet.  Just even if they talked about security I cannot imagine someone suggesting hey ... lets move most of this to cold wallet and only keep so much online.
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Storm in a tea-cup really ... 5th paragraph says:

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If found guilty, Karpeles could face up to five years in prison, or a fine of up to 500,000 yen (£2,650).
legendary
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Christian Antkow
One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

Japan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.

Karpeles is toast.
hero member
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One scammy fat fuck scammer down in the bitcoin community. Only a matter of time before the rest like Joshua Zipkin his almost twin goes down #JoshuaZipkin #bitcoinscammer
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/01/ex-boss-of-mtgox-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-in-japan-over-lost-480m



This is gonna be Zipkin at some point.

vip
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When a wife a client doubts her husband because he made the wrong choice to purchase a miner, (from any company by all means),  or when the wife of an owner divorces him right after having their newborn for fear of her child's life and her own due to the types of threats and gestures which have been made.


And trust josh, he would know threats.



Yep, Josh said that I deserve to die. His words even made the Bitcoin-themed rags.

Curious as to who that was directed to? Basically he admitted there was a threat to someone. A client? Would not be the first time Joshua Zipkin has issued veiled threats to a client. I of course speak from personal experience as does Gleb.

The threat was toward me, and he was referring to me calling him the Jewish Freemason Bulgarian Gimp.

The son of bitchin' motherfuckin' cocksucker Jewish bastard denied being a Freemason from the get-to of AMT, so it had to be that Joshua Zipkin offered up his Gimp ass for the masons to fuck so that he could use a space behind the temple as an office that just so happened to literally be across the street from the women his scammy dad is married to and fucks on a regular basis so that she could sign for return packages to the cocksucker Joshua Zipkin.

There wasn't one motherfuckin' issue with him being a Freemason. Not fuckin' one. But, the honest Joshua Zipkin opted to lie about it. Then continued to lie about it. Then some more, finally coming out and declaring such is true and will burn down the house of the dude that brought light to said fact. The Freemasons must be proud to have the likes of Joshua Zipkin and his dad, Zachariah Harry Zipkin, in their fold.
sr. member
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I'd be interested in looking at some of that. Haven't had a good laugh in a while.
The schems, BOM and PCB files remain property of Bitmine.ch and I have to respct that part of the NDA I had with AMT.

What I can say is that Bitmine pretty much took the 2-chip dev board that was being used in the A1 dev thread here and multiplied it into a lot of 2-chp layouts on 1 big board. Also apparently never paid attention to what was being said there about thermals when the chips are pushed to published specs.

As to Vcore... Due to product availability AMT used a different model of the regulator chip that had a higher value internal ref divider (100k vs 10k). But - dinna change the external resistor values to match the difference. Also AMT/Bitmine never tried to set the internal flash ram in the regulator to startup at a safe voltage. Result: For several seconds the ASICS are hit with a Vcore voltage above their max ratings until a bootstrap program is run to set it to the correct voltage.  Roll Eyes

EDI: Correction. Looking through my notes was the DPOT feeding the regulators set point that was substituted w/o correcting the fixed resistor values in the reference divider tied to it. End result was the same.

NotFuzzyWarm,  thanks for sharing your info.  You are absolutely right! They took Innosiicon's Dec 2013 2 chip lab test boad and simply multiply up to a big board while replacing our DCDC regulators and heat sinks design with their own inadequate ones. They ingored our repeated warning about the importance of extra margin on DCDC and big top thermal heat sink. Also they were way too aggressive in reducing on-board MCU. They one time fried a large batch of ASICs by ignoring the manufacturing protocol of baking the chips 7 hours before SMT soldering process. Chips were fried and pop up in flame. What can we say? All sorts of silly mistakes imaginable for naive engineers trying to make their 1st PCB production in life time.
 
From Jan to May 2014 when A1 was the best in the world and miners were in huge demand, they wasted all these precious mrket windows and chips in several failed attempts to make their Miner production. This is why any chip in their hands did not turn into miners to make money. In the meantime, people used the same design they released also suffered big time and sat with boxes of PCB boards not knowing what to do.  We really felt sorry for them.
 
Simply a  tragedy!

I was supposed to do firmware on another A1 based design, and ended up debugging the switching power supply on the system. I did manage to get 3 of the chips on the board to hash. This design never shipped, and I never really followed up on if any of the customers actually got promised systems.

I think the best thing that Innosilicon could do to regain public trust is post a fully working PCB layout under a creative commons license, and clear and transparent pricing for A1 chips, and what the different grades are. I'd like to know what equipment you use on the fab line to grade the chips.... One of my current contracts is with a company making semiconductor test equipment. Maybe we can improve the chip grading process.
sr. member
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AMT Miners - You told everyone we would get refunds, that there was a list. It never happened. We paid $6,000 for miners, and what most got were $800 dragon miners that were near worthless at the time. In my case I got one in pieces, and those pieces were used and not new. You have set people back in their lives.  Now you suggest they spend money on bitcoin, when they lost so much with you already. Somethings never change. It's nice to see you have money to drink away, you should be sending it to the people you made the promises to. We can't believe anything you say.
hero member
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When a wife a client doubts her husband because he made the wrong choice to purchase a miner, (from any company by all means),  or when the wife of an owner divorces him right after having their newborn for fear of her child's life and her own due to the types of threats and gestures which have been made.


And trust josh, he would know threats.



Yep, Josh said that I deserve to die. His words even made the Bitcoin-themed rags.

Curious as to who that was directed to? Basically he admitted there was a threat to someone. A client? Would not be the first time Joshua Zipkin has issued veiled threats to a client. I of course speak from personal experience as does Gleb.
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Rik,
Breaking necks hands and threats are his specialty Smiley
I am wandering how a pig like Zipkin poserkoto can brake something at all Grin he have to pay for it for sure but here the "boys" who do it do it only in preorder Grin and once in his miserable life he will have to pay 100% in advance  Grin and wait without refund option Grin Grin
Now seriously there were some threats about his family here even his address in Bulgaria was posted. I asked folks absolutely seriously not to act like him and became same scumbags and cowards  Forum history is here and I  will not loose my time to dig my posts regarding this. His wife and relatives have nothing to do with his shits and can not be held responsible for Zipkin actions.

I am positive that everybody me, you and Zipkin of course will get what we deserve someday. The life, good or whatever force is out there will take care and everyone of us will pay for the shits we made in one way or another. Or will be rewarded in one way or another for the good things we have done.  That is how it works and it is not a threat. Life will take care it is just a matter of time.
But for sure if I meet Zipkin in person I will spit in his face and will take all the risk and consequences of what such fat ass can do to me Grin


From what I understand he is in Bulgaria (despite what he says otherwise) check through my posts, I posted the address there at one point as a good turn for him doing the same to me Wink you can have a chat with him. Have a chat with him. See whats really going on Wink You are in Bulgaria are you not?
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It's good to know that he purposely sent me a miner that wasn't complete even though I paid for it. That should help me win a judgement against him. I have no problem taking a trip to PA.

No one plotted to monitor AMT. Josh was in communication with people of his own free will. Hell he engaged me in conversation. However, when he didn't make good on his end of the purchases those who he was talking too refused to be silent about what he said to them, and surprise some of it was pretty inflammatory.

You don't get to take people's money, deliver faulty or unfinished products, and then flee the country while maintaining the moral high ground. "We did our best", though I'm not sure you were really more than a sole proprietorship, isn't good enough. If a lawsuit with IMET would have paid you enough to refund all your customers then why the hell wouldn't you do that? I hope for the sake of potential customers and your potential worker that you never start up a business again. You obviously don't have the chops to run a company.

So you say, "One day maybe we get our lawsuit with IMET." My question to you is, what if you do and you manage to win? Would you refund the people whose money you took? My guess would be no at this point.

You must think you have the biggest swinginest dick in the world to come in here and talk like this. For fucks sake.


Right, monitoring wasn't part of the plot. We can pull the email from Craig lenell who claims otherwise and post it here if you'd like. You were sent a PSU, just like fuzzy was. And there was no fleeing the country, Josh spent 2 months in china building and shipping miners, making sure it got done. Then went back to Bulgaria for a few months to shut down AMT's outsourced operations there. He also dealt with a divorce and and several other things. "Fleeing the country" is a provocative statement, and made to instigate a reaction. Josh had always lived part time in Bulgaria for the past 6 years due to his former marriage. There was no action of fleeing, he just went home. He ended up getting divorced, loosing his apartment in BG, his wife, and new born kid. You lost 6k? He lost everything.

He's been in Philadelphia since February. The idea that he's fled the country and has a secret mining farm is ridiculous. He's also met with lenell's lawyers in their office face to face on several occasions. AMT's still has the summons and prepared claim, IMET needs to be served and if there is judgement/settlement it will go to repay the clients, so to answer your question, Yes, the idea was to attribute winnings to clients and issue refunds. Reviewing submissions to a public docket doesn't make you an expert on the matter, and listening to a shmuck like Tony Serrata who has is own agenda among other things is ridiculous as well. There is no more AMT, no secret wallets with tons of btc, no one to sue, just a broke guy working as a freelance electrician fixing peoples light switches and home wiring during the day and spending his nights in the bar or on the sofa staring at the bottom of the bottle.

Take what ever money you can afford to gamble with, buy btc and sell between Sept 15-20th. You'll make your 6k back. Or invest in something non-crypto related and open a margin account and long ticker: TZA for the next 2 months, again selling between Sept 15th-20th.
Or sue josh personally, and have his "wages garnished". He'd need to be employed for that one bud. Have you googled his name, if you were an employer would you hire him?

You just got two sure fire ways to make your money back. Use them.



Clenell can you verify the bolded? As for the secret wallets, I pretty much proved that some time ago. Anyone going thru my post history can see the blockchain wallets showing excesses of 2000Btc in poorly masked attempts at money laundering. I mean this was the special olympics of money laundering and you came in last, thats how stupid the attempt was. Took me all of one hour to find it. Took me more time to make the post formatted correctly than it did to trace the BTC you made. Oh and said wallets (there are 2) are still making alot of mining income. Your operation with KNC. But Clenell can validate with a simple yes or no if you really are back. If so there are some people interested in speaking with you (hint they wear uniforms).

And whatever you do don't take any advice from Joshua Zipkin aka AMT_Miners. If he is telling you this then it means he is expecting a massive change in the market...because he is obviously one of the people manipulating it (it is still statistically small enough to be manipulated by enough big players).

Oh another thing, "clearly" Joshua Zipkin must have someone working for him and therefore money to pay them if he is having someone write this for him. Ergo there is money, else you would not be doing this for free "not Josh" behind AMT_miners. Noone would be so stupid to subject themselves to this after everything that has happened. A google search for your, OH wait I meant Joshua Zipkin clearly demonstrates who he is and his antics and lame SEO attempts to clear his name.
vip
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It's good to know that he purposely sent me a miner that wasn't complete even though I paid for it. That should help me win a judgement against him. I have no problem taking a trip to PA.

No one plotted to monitor AMT. Josh was in communication with people of his own free will. Hell he engaged me in conversation. However, when he didn't make good on his end of the purchases those who he was talking too refused to be silent about what he said to them, and surprise some of it was pretty inflammatory.

You don't get to take people's money, deliver faulty or unfinished products, and then flee the country while maintaining the moral high ground. "We did our best", though I'm not sure you were really more than a sole proprietorship, isn't good enough. If a lawsuit with IMET would have paid you enough to refund all your customers then why the hell wouldn't you do that? I hope for the sake of potential customers and your potential worker that you never start up a business again. You obviously don't have the chops to run a company.

So you say, "One day maybe we get our lawsuit with IMET." My question to you is, what if you do and you manage to win? Would you refund the people whose money you took? My guess would be no at this point.

You must think you have the biggest swinginest dick in the world to come in here and talk like this. For fucks sake.


Right, monitoring wasn't part of the plot. We can pull the email from Craig lenell who claims otherwise and post it here if you'd like. You were sent a PSU, just like fuzzy was. And there was no fleeing the country, Josh spent 2 months in china building and shipping miners, making sure it got done. Then went back to Bulgaria for a few months to shut down AMT's outsourced operations there. He also dealt with a divorce and and several other things. "Fleeing the country" is a provocative statement, and made to instigate a reaction. Josh had always lived part time in Bulgaria for the past 6 years due to his former marriage. There was no action of fleeing, he just went home. He ended up getting divorced, loosing his apartment in BG, his wife, and new born kid. You lost 6k? He lost everything.

He's been in Philadelphia since February. The idea that he's fled the country and has a secret mining farm is ridiculous. He's also met with lenell's lawyers in their office face to face on several occasions. AMT's still has the summons and prepared claim, IMET needs to be served and if there is judgement/settlement it will go to repay the clients, so to answer your question, Yes, the idea was to attribute winnings to clients and issue refunds. Reviewing submissions to a public docket doesn't make you an expert on the matter, and listening to a shmuck like Tony Serrata who has is own agenda among other things is ridiculous as well. There is no more AMT, no secret wallets with tons of btc, no one to sue, just a broke guy working as a freelance electrician fixing peoples light switches and home wiring during the day and spending his nights in the bar or on the sofa staring at the bottom of the bottle.

Take what ever money you can afford to gamble with, buy btc and sell between Sept 15-20th. You'll make your 6k back. Or invest in something non-crypto related and open a margin account and long ticker: TZA for the next 2 months, again selling between Sept 15th-20th.
Or sue josh personally, and have his "wages garnished". He'd need to be employed for that one bud. Have you googled his name, if you were an employer would you hire him?

You just got two sure fire ways to make your money back. Use them.




Me so happy to learnt that Josh's wife left him as I so predicted she would.  Grin Grin Grin

Josh, I see you're back to penning in third person. Would you be so kind to tell Joshua Zipkin to let me know what address he's using now in the States so that the police can finally deliver some paperwork to him pertaining to his threats of killing somebody?
vip
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When a wife a client doubts her husband because he made the wrong choice to purchase a miner, (from any company by all means),  or when the wife of an owner divorces him right after having their newborn for fear of her child's life and her own due to the types of threats and gestures which have been made.


And trust josh, he would know threats.



Yep, Josh said that I deserve to die. His words even made the Bitcoin-themed rags.
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AMT_miner, where is my refund, so rediculous you can not just keep quit, be a man do repsonble for what you caused.  give me the refund.
AMT order #645 and #962, where is my refund?
totally amount is US(645#for $ 5155+#962 for $6089)= US$11244
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