Inoue vs Akhmadaliev ordered by the WBA no later than September 25

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[..] going up to featherweight for a new challenge for him.

He will face these champions.

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Featherweight (126 lbs.)
WBO: Rafael Espinoza

IBF: Luis Alberto Lopez

WBA: Nick Ball

WBC: Rey Vargas*

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/12370125/boxing-champions-list

I think Inoue can still dominate as i don't see the names in the list even included in the top 10 pound for pound.
I also like to see him fight Magsayo, I hope they'll meet.

Well I would like Inoue to fight all those champions, Rey Vargas has the physical advantage, tall and lanky and might give Inoue a problems. Same with Espinoza at 5'11. And then my favorite amongst the champion at 126 lbs is Luis Lopez, his style is unorthodox, he will just swing and throw a lot of punches, awkward but he was build like that his style could be similar to Emmanuel Navarette.

Mark Magsayo is already campaigning at 130 lbs if I'm not mistaken, so that might not likely to happen. Besides, there are a lot of great champions Super Featherweight that Magsayo himself will have difficulty in beating them.

Speaking of Luis Lopez, he will have a fight this August 11 Angelo Leo so maybe fight fans will want to watch that fight and see if he can be a good fight for Inoue.

It will really be a big challenge for Inoue to go up in weight that's why their team said that they will stay for a while in this division and it's either Akhmadaliev or TJ Doheny and Sam Goodman will be next for Inoue.

But it seems though that they are leaning towards Doheny. I know that Akhmadaliev might be hurt a bit because he might not have a chance to fight Inoue if he has plans to move up to 126 lbs. But let's see after TJ maybe Inoue will want to make another fight before the end of the year and then starts campaigning to the featherweight division and face those mentioned champion.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 17, 2024, 07:51:29 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 17, 2024, 06:54:18 AM

[..] going up to featherweight for a new challenge for him.

He will face these champions.

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Featherweight (126 lbs.)
WBO: Rafael Espinoza

IBF: Luis Alberto Lopez

WBA: Nick Ball

WBC: Rey Vargas*

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/12370125/boxing-champions-list

I think Inoue can still dominate as i don't see the names in the list even included in the top 10 pound for pound.
I also like to see him fight Magsayo, I hope they'll meet.

Well I would like Inoue to fight all those champions, Rey Vargas has the physical advantage, tall and lanky and might give Inoue a problems. Same with Espinoza at 5'11. And then my favorite amongst the champion at 126 lbs is Luis Lopez, his style is unorthodox, he will just swing and throw a lot of punches, awkward but he was build like that his style could be similar to Emmanuel Navarette.

Mark Magsayo is already campaigning at 130 lbs if I'm not mistaken, so that might not likely to happen. Besides, there are a lot of great champions Super Featherweight that Magsayo himself will have difficulty in beating them.

Speaking of Luis Lopez, he will have a fight this August 11 Angelo Leo so maybe fight fans will want to watch that fight and see if he can be a good fight for Inoue.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 17, 2024, 06:54:18 AM

[..] going up to featherweight for a new challenge for him.

He will face these champions.

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Featherweight (126 lbs.)
WBO: Rafael Espinoza

IBF: Luis Alberto Lopez

WBA: Nick Ball

WBC: Rey Vargas*

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/12370125/boxing-champions-list

I think Inoue can still dominate as i don't see the names in the list even included in the top 10 pound for pound.
I also like to see him fight Magsayo, I hope they'll meet.

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We have the same thoughts, maybe this is going to be Inoue's last fight at 122 lbs and then after winning, he might want to move up to 126 lbs and challenge all the champions there. And it very well the advise of Bob Arum not to fight Akhmadaliev, just one fight against TJ and he is done at super bantamweight.

And still a win-win for those who are waiting at 122 lbs, I mean it will open up again a new set of champions. So for those former champions that Inoue has beaten, they will have equal opportunity again to regain their belts once Inoue move up to Featherweight division.

I hope that happens because it's not fun anymore watching him fight boxers who are not on his level. He has already become an undisputed champion, which is enough to prove that he is the strongest in that division, so there's no reason to stay long. It's due time for him to move up. After this fight, let's see, because the champions are waiting. Personally, I think he will still become an undisputed champion in that division. Mark my words.

I do agree because on how he dominated his fight to the point that we can predict that he will win although in his last fight, it's the first time that we have seen him touching the canvass although he was not hurt and them make a huge comeback.

And for me this is really a great sign that Inoue, is a elite fighter as he was able to get up and then scored another knockout win. But then it's boring to us as it is predictable already and so we wanted him to go up at 126 lbs, leave the super-bantamweight still a champion and let the others feasts on the belts that he will be vacated and him going up to featherweight for a new challenge for him.

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It was nearing July 14 for the announcement but sadly it's just probably not in the plans of the management for Inoue. I agree that it can be with boxing politics and might not benefit Inoue's career or something.

What are the possible main reasons for fighting TJ? I'm still thinking about it.

The main reason why Team Inoue chooses TJ Doheny as their next opponent is the latter's popularity in Japan. If you browse through TJ's resume, his last three fights were held in Japan so he is very sellable in Japan than Akhmadaliev. Though no specific date yet but reports had it that Inoue vs Doheny will be held this coming September in Tokyo.

And TJ won all the 3 fights in Japan, and so it make sense for team Inoue to fight him as there could be a storyline to somewhat stop TJ in his tracks as he has one all his fights in Inoue's backyard and what a better way to show than Inoue itself who I say is the king of Japanese boxing for now.

Although Inoue will sell any stadium in Japan if he fought Akhmadaliev. And just like what others might think, this could be Inoue's last fight in this division and so he will be very careful to choose an opponent that might pose a lesser risk on him.

We don't know the exact reason behind it, but I'm pretty sure it's not just about him being careful since Inoue can fight anyone he wants as long as the crowd would love to see it. Marlon Tapales beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Inoue defeated Tapales with his power. Based on that alone, we can say that Inoue would still dominate Akhmadaliev if he were to fight the challenger.

If this is going to be his last fight in this weight class, then that's good because Inoue will be moving on to the exciting part, which is trying to become an undisputed champion in a new weight class he'll aim to dominate.

Yeah, I think that will be their aim here, to go up in another weight class for Inoue. Perhaps they know that Inoue is not getting any younger at 31 years old already and could be hitting his prime by this point.

And with that, they want to maximized his potential but just taking a light opponent in TJ and then move up wherein the challenges are getting harder but since he is at his peak, they are very confident that he could at least get one belt at 126 lbs and then later, talk on becoming undisputed.

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It was nearing July 14 for the announcement but sadly it's just probably not in the plans of the management for Inoue. I agree that it can be with boxing politics and might not benefit Inoue's career or something.

What are the possible main reasons for fighting TJ? I'm still thinking about it.

The main reason why Team Inoue chooses TJ Doheny as their next opponent is the latter's popularity in Japan. If you browse through TJ's resume, his last three fights were held in Japan so he is very sellable in Japan than Akhmadaliev. Though no specific date yet but reports had it that Inoue vs Doheny will be held this coming September in Tokyo.

And TJ won all the 3 fights in Japan, and so it make sense for team Inoue to fight him as there could be a storyline to somewhat stop TJ in his tracks as he has one all his fights in Inoue's backyard and what a better way to show than Inoue itself who I say is the king of Japanese boxing for now.

Although Inoue will sell any stadium in Japan if he fought Akhmadaliev. And just like what others might think, this could be Inoue's last fight in this division and so he will be very careful to choose an opponent that might pose a lesser risk on him.

We don't know the exact reason behind it, but I'm pretty sure it's not just about him being careful since Inoue can fight anyone he wants as long as the crowd would love to see it. Marlon Tapales beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Inoue defeated Tapales with his power. Based on that alone, we can say that Inoue would still dominate Akhmadaliev if he were to fight the challenger.

If this is going to be his last fight in this weight class, then that's good because Inoue will be moving on to the exciting part, which is trying to become an undisputed champion in a new weight class he'll aim to dominate.

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Quote from: crwth on July 12, 2024, 07:38:35 AM

It was nearing July 14 for the announcement but sadly it's just probably not in the plans of the management for Inoue. I agree that it can be with boxing politics and might not benefit Inoue's career or something.

What are the possible main reasons for fighting TJ? I'm still thinking about it.

The main reason why Team Inoue chooses TJ Doheny as their next opponent is the latter's popularity in Japan. If you browse through TJ's resume, his last three fights were held in Japan so he is very sellable in Japan than Akhmadaliev. Though no specific date yet but reports had it that Inoue vs Doheny will be held this coming September in Tokyo.

And TJ won all the 3 fights in Japan, and so it make sense for team Inoue to fight him as there could be a storyline to somewhat stop TJ in his tracks as he has one all his fights in Inoue's backyard and what a better way to show than Inoue itself who I say is the king of Japanese boxing for now.

Although Inoue will sell any stadium in Japan if he fought Akhmadaliev. And just like what others might think, this could be Inoue's last fight in this division and so he will be very careful to choose an opponent that might pose a lesser risk on him.

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Quote from: crwth on July 12, 2024, 07:38:35 AM

It was nearing July 14 for the announcement but sadly it's just probably not in the plans of the management for Inoue. I agree that it can be with boxing politics and might not benefit Inoue's career or something.

What are the possible main reasons for fighting TJ? I'm still thinking about it.

The main reason why Team Inoue chooses TJ Doheny as their next opponent is the latter's popularity in Japan. If you browse through TJ's resume, his last three fights were held in Japan so he is very sellable in Japan than Akhmadaliev. Though no specific date yet but reports had it that Inoue vs Doheny will be held this coming September in Tokyo.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 11, 2024, 08:47:08 PM

LOL! Casimero is always calling out Naoya. But why should Naoya even give him the attention? Casimero is saying a lot of funny things like Naoya is lucky if he can reach round three with him or that Naoya is afraid of him and is running away, but who is he really? Rather than barking at those at the top, he should fight and defeat anybody in his way toward Naoya. That's the key. My boxer neighbor can't just call out Tank Davis and brand him a coward just because he doesn't respond and face him. This is the case with Casimero. He's been provided with great opportunities but this loud mouth just wasted them all.

Casimero is getting the attention of Inoue but he seems to be ignored at most times. Inoue is decent and I'm not saying that Casimero isn't decent. But if it's about asking for a fight or challenging a champion, there's a process to it and he needs to process and do some negotiations about it.

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Anyway, I can't see how Akhmadaliev wins against a Naoya who is at the top of his boxing form. It seems that Akhmadaliev isn't ripe yet to face the monster, an undisputed champion in two different weight divisions.

As posted by cryptomaniac, it seems that this match of Akhmadaliev won't happen against Inoue or not yet for now.

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It was nearing July 14 for the announcement but sadly it's just probably not in the plans of the management for Inoue. I agree that it can be with boxing politics and might not benefit Inoue's career or something.

What are the possible main reasons for fighting TJ? I'm still thinking about it.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 11, 2024, 11:53:43 PM

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^^ So meaning to say, that they will have to pay Akhmadaliev step aside money so that Inoue won't fight him and instead faces TJ Doheny? What will happen to Akhmadaliev then? Will he have to wait again before he can get a crack at Inoue?

Just weird though that it seems this fight is what boxing fans are looking for and it could have been lock in already and good to see former champion Akhmadaliev to test Inoue. For sure they are not afraid of him, but most likely this is due to boxing politics again, too bad for Akhmadaliev though.

Also on Inoue's choosing to fight TJ Doheny next, what does this imply for Inoue and the WBA's order of a mandatory defense against Akhmadaliev? It appears that the WBA super bantamweight championship will be removed from Inoue's waist after his fight vs. Doheny.

If Inoue knows that the WBA championship will be removed from him, I speculate that he has decided already to move to the next division on featherweight where he can challenge the champions there including Brandon Figueroa.

I heard some say that the WBA is putting pressure on Inoue for his fight against Akhmadaliev, but we all know that Inoue is under promoter Bob Arum who is professional who can always have really great fighters.
I sure everything will never get out of Bob Arum control and if the choice is TJ Doheny as his next opponent then clearly that is the end for Inoue fight in the Batam Super Class, after all TJ Doheny has also been strong challenger and is one of the best for Batam Super.

Yes, that what we all want, seeing how Inoue has increased his weight and entered Featherweight, this is the right step and of course being able to move up to higher class can allow Inoue to avoid bad things if there is challenger at Batam Super who manages to beat him.
If this all really happens then it will be very exciting and in maybe year time we can see Inoue who can fight against those Featherweight monsters.

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But Naoya is not facing an ordinary boxer in Casimero, Casimero happens to be a three-division world champion and he has fought some of the great names in the divisions like Tete, Rigondeaux and he is a future Hall of Famer
I always say that facing Casimero will be an added legacy for Inoue for the simple reason that Casimero hasn't lost for the last seven years.

Skipping Casimero is not good for his legacy because there will always be a comparison, and Casimero's resume is far better than those he fought excluding Donaire.

If this was 4 or 5 years ago then Casimero would certainly be one of the best names on Inoue’s resume. However, this is 2024 and Casimero has not been relevant in a while. If Inoue fights him he will be criticized for cherry picking a washed up fighter. If Casimero can come back and wins a title, it suddenly becomes an intriguing fight again. Based solely on their skill level, Inoue will always be a huge favorite. It will be up to Casimero to earn that fight by getting a significant win, but the longer he stays inactive, it will only allow other fighters to get ahead of him.

I don't think that Casimero though will be active at least for the rest of the year, there are no confirmed fights of him surfacing around and it looks like he is contented doing things in his social media. One thing that we should look as well is that Casimero is getting older by the day while Inoue is improving and facing a lot of great fighters while Casimero's career has stagnated since he moved up to 122 lbs.

As for the postponed fight between Inoue and Akhmadaliev, it will really hurt Akhmadaliev specially if this will be Inoue's last fight at 122 lbs as he won't have his chance to test his skills against the pound for pound Inoue. I haven't check but is TJ under Top Rank? If he is then I'm not surprised that Bob Arum chooses him as it will be all in-house money for him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 12, 2024, 02:55:28 AM

We have the same thoughts, maybe this is going to be Inoue's last fight at 122 lbs and then after winning, he might want to move up to 126 lbs and challenge all the champions there. And it very well the advise of Bob Arum not to fight Akhmadaliev, just one fight against TJ and he is done at super bantamweight.

And still a win-win for those who are waiting at 122 lbs, I mean it will open up again a new set of champions. So for those former champions that Inoue has beaten, they will have equal opportunity again to regain their belts once Inoue move up to Featherweight division.

I hope that happens because it's not fun anymore watching him fight boxers who are not on his level. He has already become an undisputed champion, which is enough to prove that he is the strongest in that division, so there's no reason to stay long. It's due time for him to move up. After this fight, let's see, because the champions are waiting. Personally, I think he will still become an undisputed champion in that division. Mark my words.

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^^ So meaning to say, that they will have to pay Akhmadaliev step aside money so that Inoue won't fight him and instead faces TJ Doheny? What will happen to Akhmadaliev then? Will he have to wait again before he can get a crack at Inoue?

Just weird though that it seems this fight is what boxing fans are looking for and it could have been lock in already and good to see former champion Akhmadaliev to test Inoue. For sure they are not afraid of him, but most likely this is due to boxing politics again, too bad for Akhmadaliev though.

Also on Inoue's choosing to fight TJ Doheny next, what does this imply for Inoue and the WBA's order of a mandatory defense against Akhmadaliev? It appears that the WBA super bantamweight championship will be removed from Inoue's waist after his fight vs. Doheny.

If Inoue knows that the WBA championship will be removed from him, I speculate that he has decided already to move to the next division on featherweight where he can challenge the champions there including Brandon Figueroa.

We have the same thoughts, maybe this is going to be Inoue's last fight at 122 lbs and then after winning, he might want to move up to 126 lbs and challenge all the champions there. And it very well the advise of Bob Arum not to fight Akhmadaliev, just one fight against TJ and he is done at super bantamweight.

And still a win-win for those who are waiting at 122 lbs, I mean it will open up again a new set of champions. So for those former champions that Inoue has beaten, they will have equal opportunity again to regain their belts once Inoue move up to Featherweight division.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 11, 2024, 08:24:19 PM

^^ So meaning to say, that they will have to pay Akhmadaliev step aside money so that Inoue won't fight him and instead faces TJ Doheny? What will happen to Akhmadaliev then? Will he have to wait again before he can get a crack at Inoue?

Just weird though that it seems this fight is what boxing fans are looking for and it could have been lock in already and good to see former champion Akhmadaliev to test Inoue. For sure they are not afraid of him, but most likely this is due to boxing politics again, too bad for Akhmadaliev though.

Also on Inoue's choosing to fight TJ Doheny next, what does this imply for Inoue and the WBA's order of a mandatory defense against Akhmadaliev? It appears that the WBA super bantamweight championship will be removed from Inoue's waist after his fight vs. Doheny.

If Inoue knows that the WBA championship will be removed from him, I speculate that he has decided already to move to the next division on featherweight where he can challenge the champions there including Brandon Figueroa.

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Quote from: aioc on July 11, 2024, 09:25:12 PM

But Naoya is not facing an ordinary boxer in Casimero, Casimero happens to be a three-division world champion and he has fought some of the great names in the divisions like Tete, Rigondeaux and he is a future Hall of Famer
I always say that facing Casimero will be an added legacy for Inoue for the simple reason that Casimero hasn't lost for the last seven years.

Skipping Casimero is not good for his legacy because there will always be a comparison, and Casimero's resume is far better than those he fought excluding Donaire.

If this was 4 or 5 years ago then Casimero would certainly be one of the best names on Inoue’s resume. However, this is 2024 and Casimero has not been relevant in a while. If Inoue fights him he will be criticized for cherry picking a washed up fighter. If Casimero can come back and wins a title, it suddenly becomes an intriguing fight again. Based solely on their skill level, Inoue will always be a huge favorite. It will be up to Casimero to earn that fight by getting a significant win, but the longer he stays inactive, it will only allow other fighters to get ahead of him.

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Quote from: aioc on July 11, 2024, 09:25:12 PM

But Naoya is not facing an ordinary boxer in Casimero, Casimero happens to be a three-division world champion and he has fought some of the great names in the divisions like Tete, Rigondeaux and he is a future Hall of Famer
I always say that facing Casimero will be an added legacy for Inoue for the simple reason that Casimero hasn't lost for the last seven years.

Skipping Casimero is not good for his legacy because there will always be a comparison, and Casimero's resume is far better than those he fought excluding Donaire.

Naoya Inoue doesn't need to fight Casimero at this stage because the latter doesn't have anything to offer to the Japanese Monster except that Casimero is popular in Japan. His popularity will be the only thing that will make Inoue fight him. And if they fight, i do think that it would be an easy fight for Inoue as Casimero is on a decline as what we have seen on his last few fights.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 11, 2024, 08:47:08 PM

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This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

LOL! Casimero is always calling out Naoya. But why should Naoya even give him the attention? Casimero is saying a lot of funny things like Naoya is lucky if he can reach round three with him or that Naoya is afraid of him and is running away, but who is he really? Rather than barking at those at the top, he should fight and defeat anybody in his way toward Naoya. That's the key. My boxer neighbor can't just call out Tank Davis and brand him a coward just because he doesn't respond and face him. This is the case with Casimero. He's been provided with great opportunities but this loud mouth just wasted them all.

But Naoya is not facing an ordinary boxer in Casimero, Casimero happens to be a three-division world champion and he has fought some of the great names in the divisions like Tete, Rigondeaux and he is a future Hall of Famer
I always say that facing Casimero will be an added legacy for Inoue for the simple reason that Casimero hasn't lost for the last seven years.

Skipping Casimero is not good for his legacy because there will always be a comparison, and Casimero's resume is far better than those he fought excluding Donaire.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 05:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

LOL! Casimero is always calling out Naoya. But why should Naoya even give him the attention? Casimero is saying a lot of funny things like Naoya is lucky if he can reach round three with him or that Naoya is afraid of him and is running away, but who is he really? Rather than barking at those at the top, he should fight and defeat anybody in his way toward Naoya. That's the key. My boxer neighbor can't just call out Tank Davis and brand him a coward just because he doesn't respond and face him. This is the case with Casimero. He's been provided with great opportunities but this loud mouth just wasted them all.

Anyway, I can't see how Akhmadaliev wins against a Naoya who is at the top of his boxing form. It seems that Akhmadaliev isn't ripe yet to face the monster, an undisputed champion in two different weight divisions.

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^^ So meaning to say, that they will have to pay Akhmadaliev step aside money so that Inoue won't fight him and instead faces TJ Doheny? What will happen to Akhmadaliev then? Will he have to wait again before he can get a crack at Inoue?

Just weird though that it seems this fight is what boxing fans are looking for and it could have been lock in already and good to see former champion Akhmadaliev to test Inoue. For sure they are not afraid of him, but most likely this is due to boxing politics again, too bad for Akhmadaliev though.

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