Inoue vs Akhmadaliev ordered by the WBA no later than September 25 - page 2.

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Quote from: rodskee on June 17, 2024, 10:43:34 PM

This is another count for Inoue , I know Akhmadaliev is a good fighter and am sure that this will bring
a great fight against this Japanese monster but this is not enough for inoue's getting laid.

Per report, Top Rank is not keen on heeding the advise of WBA for that mandatory fight against Akhmadaliev because they think that the latter is not popular enough so better to relinquish the WBA belt rather than fighting Akhmadaliev.

That's fine, besidess, he has nothing to prove since he had already became an undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division, and I believe he will not stay long in this division as I'm sure there's a plan to move in a higher division, probably next year, or maybe the upcoming fight of Inoue would be his last if he can successfully defend his title.

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Quote from: bittraffic on June 17, 2024, 06:23:40 PM

Every commission has different rules though. This is why boxing is becoming the worse sport because these boxers can just refuse while they can hop from one organization to another. He could be moving up already to avoid this fight if they can't make money in fighting Akhmadaliev.

Akhmadaliev most probably is not worth for Inoue's camp especially if the opponent isn't worth watching. Casimero is also not as popular as Inoue. Inoue is the most popular in Japan and they need the fight to be hosted there.

Indeed but the basic and correct rules are always to strip a champion if he does not want to defend the belt against his mandatory. Only an injury can stop the commissions from stripping a champion because of failure to fight its mandatory. The corruption of the sport though is worsening. Maybe only the WBO is slightly reliable of the big 4.

I still hope Casimero gets the shot but I am hearing rumors of former champ, TJ Doheny getting a shot against Inoue. I am also curious of the reactions of the IBF and WBA who already have mandatory names but Inoue might take another opponent.

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Quote from: rodskee on June 17, 2024, 10:43:34 PM

This is another count for Inoue , I know Akhmadaliev is a good fighter and am sure that this will bring
a great fight against this Japanese monster but this is not enough for inoue's getting laid.

Per report, Top Rank is not keen on heeding the advise of WBA for that mandatory fight against Akhmadaliev because they think that the latter is not popular enough so better to relinquish the WBA belt rather than fighting Akhmadaliev.

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Quote from: bittraffic on June 14, 2024, 12:43:58 PM

This is another count for Inoue , I know Akhmadaliev is a good fighter and am sure that this will bring
a great fight against this Japanese monster but this is not enough for inoue's getting laid.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 17, 2024, 09:27:26 AM

I don't think we need a poll for this fight, even if Inoue suffered a knockdown, it's a flash knockdown where the fighter gets a knockdown but was not visibly hurt or affected.

I don't think Akhmadaliev style and power can offer something different from what his past opponents whom he easily dispose.

Inoue will just add Akhmadaliev to boxers he dominated and knockout before going into the upper division, no one in his division can offer resistance to his domination in the division, the Casimero fight is not going to happen as the Inoue or all boxing organizations shut out a Casimero fight.

Yes, I think Inoue has seen what everyone can offer him at 122 lbs, except maybe Casimero, but as we have seen, Casimero doesn't deserved a fight with the Japanese at this point. Sam Goodman will be next for Inoue if he gets past Akhmadaliev and then fight other mandatories just to please the other governing bodies. or if he can't they can simply stripped him and then Inoue get focusing on one or two belts at least there is no pressure on him to fight like every 3-4 months as it is not possible at this era. And then after tht he could go up at 126 lbs and make things tough for him and then maybe go as high as 135 lbs for a potential superfight with Gervonta 'Tank' Davis.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 14, 2024, 09:29:10 PM

An order from WBA and I hope that they can order as well the venue of the fight and should be outside Inoue's home country. And that's just to shut the fans and his haters out that he can box outside his beloved country.

Is there any advantage if a boxer fights in their own country? I mean many don't want the style of Inoue where he only wants the venue to be in Japan, but is there any disadvantage to the opposing boxer aside from the crowd? Like you though, I also want the fight to be outside Japan because the fans in Japan are just too silent unlike the fans in other countries especially in the US of course. Cheesy

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 06:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

Casimero has been asking for the fight for a very long time already, but I just don't know why the organization doesn't want this fight to happen TBH. Casimero wants it, but Inoue is just ignoring him, signaling that he doesn't want to fight him. I mean it's just my 2 cents, but I'm thinking that Inoue sees Casimero as a threat, but on the other hand, Casimero needs to fight other boxers first before going to that title fight.

Quote from: coin-investor on June 17, 2024, 09:27:26 AM

I don't think we need a poll for this fight, even if Inoue suffered a knockdown, it's a flash knockdown where the fighter gets a knockdown but was not visibly hurt or affected.

Well, that might be true, but that knockdown is a huge one for other boxers and they will think "If he can knock Inoue down, I think I can do it as well." Like you said though, it was a flash knockdown, and it looks like nothing happened after that.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 14, 2024, 09:42:58 PM

I don't think that WBA or any governing body in boxing can force where the fight is going to happen. It really depends on who's promoter is going to win in the bid or what will happen on the negotiations before they put up a bid on public. They are just concern that the fight is going to happen based on their mandated rule and the date that they have set, in this case no later than September 25.

True that and I do not think there is a controversy if the opponent ends up being KO'ed since it is a clear indication that the winner has proven that he deserves the win. It will only became an issue if the fight ends up in a controversial decision. I believe it does not matter where the fight happens as long as the organizing body make sure that all is done in fair manner.

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Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

It's because Casimero has nothing not offer, he is not a champion anymore, and so far has lackluster performance at 122 lbs. He can't even score a knockout win in this new weight class and so the camp of Inoue is no longer interested.

It is a waste of time for Inoue to fight Casimero right now. I agree that Casimero needs to get some ranking level up or a title for him to get the attention of Inoues camp. I think his worth of fighting Inoue was gone when he lost his title after the governing body stripped him of his title in his previous weight division. If Casimero's ranking doesn't improve I believe we may not see Inoue's camp allowing Casimero to fight Inoue. Casimero need to make his name sensational again by scoring KO's and underdog wins.

Akhmadalieve fighting Inoue is a better matchup than Inoue against Tapales, in my opinion. We might see a much more entertaining and exciting fight than Inoue-Tapales.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 17, 2024, 01:49:17 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 15, 2024, 02:02:29 AM

Apparently, it will not be Akhmadaliev who is Inoue’s next opponent. It will be TJ Doheny.
Naoya Inoue Declines Mandatory, Plans for September Fight in Japan

Naoya's last five fights have been against either mandatories or other world champions. At this point, if he wants to take a tune-up against a highly rated challenger, he has earned that right.

Many people would still like to see Casimero against Inoue, but Casimero has been missing in action since that 4 round technical draw 8 months ago. This will be Inoue’s third fight in that same period. If Casimero doesn’t do something before the end of the year to position himself as Inoue’s next opponent, the opportunity might be gone for good.

So what happens to Inoue's mandatories if he wants to fight another name? The IBF and the WBA can strip him I guess? Unless the two sanctioning bodies will allow Inoue one more voluntary fight. Maybe they'll issue interim belts but hopefully they won't since they're useless anyways.

Casimero if he wants Inoue has be active. Only the WBO has no mandatory challenger at the moment and that's his biggest chance considering he is also a 3 division world champion. But seriously, I am not sure how the current version of Casimero fares against Inoue. I can only imagine another dominating performance by Inoue.

Every commission has different rules though. This is why boxing is becoming the worse sport because these boxers can just refuse while they can hop from one organization to another. He could be moving up already to avoid this fight if they can't make money in fighting Akhmadaliev.

Akhmadaliev most probably is not worth for Inoue's camp especially if the opponent isn't worth watching. Casimero is also not as popular as Inoue. Inoue is the most popular in Japan and they need the fight to be hosted there.

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Quote from: coin-investor on June 17, 2024, 09:27:26 AM

I don't think we need a poll for this fight, even if Inoue suffered a knockdown, it's a flash knockdown where the fighter gets a knockdown but was not visibly hurt or affected.

Agree. After that last fight of Inoue, though he got knock down but somehow he impressed the fans as he was able to stand up like nothing happened. We can see he really has the strenght and stamina that makes him more a complete fighter. So even if he'll get knock down in his upcoming fights, we won't be worried as we know he will come back to end the fight in a knock out. No boxer could beat Inoue in this division, but I only see casimero being the closest to Inoue despite Casimero's bad ranking.

Quote from: coin-investor on June 17, 2024, 09:27:26 AM

I don't think Akhmadaliev style and power can offer something different from what his past opponents whom he easily dispose.

Inoue will just add Akhmadaliev to boxers he dominated and knockout before going into the upper division, no one in his division can offer resistance to his domination in the division, the Casimero fight is not going to happen as the Inoue or all boxing organizations shut out a Casimero fight.

This guy loss to Marlon Tapales via split decision, if we use Tapales as a gauge, then we know what will happen, this will likely end in a brutal KO.

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I don't think we need a poll for this fight, even if Inoue suffered a knockdown, it's a flash knockdown where the fighter gets a knockdown but was not visibly hurt or affected.

I don't think Akhmadaliev style and power can offer something different from what his past opponents whom he easily dispose.

Inoue will just add Akhmadaliev to boxers he dominated and knockout before going into the upper division, no one in his division can offer resistance to his domination in the division, the Casimero fight is not going to happen as the Inoue or all boxing organizations shut out a Casimero fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 15, 2024, 02:02:29 AM

Apparently, it will not be Akhmadaliev who is Inoue’s next opponent. It will be TJ Doheny.
Naoya Inoue Declines Mandatory, Plans for September Fight in Japan

Naoya's last five fights have been against either mandatories or other world champions. At this point, if he wants to take a tune-up against a highly rated challenger, he has earned that right.

Many people would still like to see Casimero against Inoue, but Casimero has been missing in action since that 4 round technical draw 8 months ago. This will be Inoue’s third fight in that same period. If Casimero doesn’t do something before the end of the year to position himself as Inoue’s next opponent, the opportunity might be gone for good.

Hehehe why does Naoya Inoue want a tune up? The 2 fights he has done after Stephen Fulton were the tune up fights already hehehe. There is only 1 boxer who will not be very much boring for the fans and who will also help create the legacy of Inoue. This is Brandon Figueroa. He has mentioned in an interview that he will be move back to super bantamweight for a challenge against Inoue he they want to accept this. It was only Stephen Fulton who has given Figueroa his only loss in his record. Figueroa is also presently the champion of the WBC championship in featherweight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 15, 2024, 02:02:29 AM

Many people would still like to see Casimero against Inoue, but Casimero has been missing in action since that 4 round technical draw 8 months ago. This will be Inoue’s third fight in that same period. If Casimero doesn’t do something before the end of the year to position himself as Inoue’s next opponent, the opportunity might be gone for good.

Can't really deny that as Casimero does not maintain a good ranking in the same division. TJ Doheny is more deserving for a fight but I think Inoue is staying too long in this division. I mean, he had already unified all the belts, why not move up and challenge a champion?

Inoue staying here will only say that he isn't a risk taker, and the fact that he keeps fighting in Japan, it's unlikely that they'll beat the accomplishment of Pacman as a boxer. Bob said he was better than Pacman, then he should prove it.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 15, 2024, 02:02:29 AM

Apparently, it will not be Akhmadaliev who is Inoue’s next opponent. It will be TJ Doheny.
Naoya Inoue Declines Mandatory, Plans for September Fight in Japan

Naoya's last five fights have been against either mandatories or other world champions. At this point, if he wants to take a tune-up against a highly rated challenger, he has earned that right.

Many people would still like to see Casimero against Inoue, but Casimero has been missing in action since that 4 round technical draw 8 months ago. This will be Inoue’s third fight in that same period. If Casimero doesn’t do something before the end of the year to position himself as Inoue’s next opponent, the opportunity might be gone for good.

So what happens to Inoue's mandatories if he wants to fight another name? The IBF and the WBA can strip him I guess? Unless the two sanctioning bodies will allow Inoue one more voluntary fight. Maybe they'll issue interim belts but hopefully they won't since they're useless anyways.

Casimero if he wants Inoue has be active. Only the WBO has no mandatory challenger at the moment and that's his biggest chance considering he is also a 3 division world champion. But seriously, I am not sure how the current version of Casimero fares against Inoue. I can only imagine another dominating performance by Inoue.

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Apparently, it will not be Akhmadaliev who is Inoue’s next opponent. It will be TJ Doheny.
Naoya Inoue Declines Mandatory, Plans for September Fight in Japan

Naoya's last five fights have been against either mandatories or other world champions. At this point, if he wants to take a tune-up against a highly rated challenger, he has earned that right.

Many people would still like to see Casimero against Inoue, but Casimero has been missing in action since that 4 round technical draw 8 months ago. This will be Inoue’s third fight in that same period. If Casimero doesn’t do something before the end of the year to position himself as Inoue’s next opponent, the opportunity might be gone for good.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 14, 2024, 09:42:58 PM

Quote from: livingfree on June 14, 2024, 09:29:10 PM

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

It's because Casimero has nothing not offer, he is not a champion anymore, and so far has lackluster performance at 122 lbs. He can't even score a knockout win in this new weight class and so the camp of Inoue is no longer interested.

Yeah, that's why Inoue is picky and even if Casimero keeps on inviting him to fight him and face his challenge, Inoue doesn't just want to.

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WBA has step in, they want Inoue to fight his mandatory and they have given the two parties dates and negotiation or else there will be a purse bid. Usually though, the promoters of this two are going to try to outbid each other so in any case it will still happen.

Although there is history of some bodies not forcing a mandatory when there is a big fight by the champion. But in this case this is what fight fans are also looking for, former champion vs Inoue and Akhmadaliev has redeemed himself already after he lost to Tapales and has been calling Inoue for years.

That's nice of them.

They just want to give it to the fans and this should be settled soon. We need them to be like this at all times and it shouldn't only with this fight of Inoue and Akhmadaliev.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 14, 2024, 09:42:58 PM

I don't think that WBA or any governing body in boxing can force where the fight is going to happen. It really depends on who's promoter is going to win in the bid or what will happen on the negotiations before they put up a bid on public. They are just concern that the fight is going to happen based on their mandated rule and the date that they have set, in this case no later than September 25.

Quote from: livingfree on June 14, 2024, 09:29:10 PM

An order from WBA and I hope that they can order as well the venue of the fight and should be outside Inoue's home country. And that's just to shut the fans and his haters out that he can box outside his beloved country.

Anyway, this is just going to be a month of negotiations and a very mandatory fight. If WBA steps in, no one can stop them and I hope that they'd regulate and order more with these kind of fights.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 06:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

It's because Casimero has nothing not offer, he is not a champion anymore, and so far has lackluster performance at 122 lbs. He can't even score a knockout win in this new weight class and so the camp of Inoue is no longer interested.

So I thought the IBF mandatory, Sam Goodman who entered the ring during the Inoue-Nery fight is next for the Japanese superstar. Anyways, the WBA also has its own mandatory and it's former unified champ, Murodjon Akhmadaliev. I haven't saw Akhmadaliev get hurt in the past and we'll see if Inoue has the power to do it. But even if Inoue cannot stop Akhmadaliev, he should be able to win a decision as he is the quicker of the two.

After this, it'll be Sam Goodman for sure unless Inoue decides to move up to 126. After Goodman, Casimero has the chance unless Inoue moves up in weight. I noticed only the WBO has no mandatory at 122, maybe Casimero has to try to be active and request the WBO to give him an eliminator and the winner gets a shot at the belt.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 14, 2024, 09:29:10 PM

An order from WBA and I hope that they can order as well the venue of the fight and should be outside Inoue's home country. And that's just to shut the fans and his haters out that he can box outside his beloved country.

Anyway, this is just going to be a month of negotiations and a very mandatory fight. If WBA steps in, no one can stop them and I hope that they'd regulate and order more with these kind of fights.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 06:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

WBA has step in, they want Inoue to fight his mandatory and they have given the two parties dates and negotiation or else there will be a purse bid. Usually though, the promoters of this two are going to try to outbid each other so in any case it will still happen.

Although there is history of some bodies not forcing a mandatory when there is a big fight by the champion. But in this case this is what fight fans are also looking for, former champion vs Inoue and Akhmadaliev has redeemed himself already after he lost to Tapales and has been calling Inoue for years.

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I don't think that WBA or any governing body in boxing can force where the fight is going to happen. It really depends on who's promoter is going to win in the bid or what will happen on the negotiations before they put up a bid on public. They are just concern that the fight is going to happen based on their mandated rule and the date that they have set, in this case no later than September 25.

Quote from: livingfree on June 14, 2024, 09:29:10 PM

An order from WBA and I hope that they can order as well the venue of the fight and should be outside Inoue's home country. And that's just to shut the fans and his haters out that he can box outside his beloved country.

Anyway, this is just going to be a month of negotiations and a very mandatory fight. If WBA steps in, no one can stop them and I hope that they'd regulate and order more with these kind of fights.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 06:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

It's because Casimero has nothing not offer, he is not a champion anymore, and so far has lackluster performance at 122 lbs. He can't even score a knockout win in this new weight class and so the camp of Inoue is no longer interested.

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An order from WBA and I hope that they can order as well the venue of the fight and should be outside Inoue's home country. And that's just to shut the fans and his haters out that he can box outside his beloved country.

Anyway, this is just going to be a month of negotiations and a very mandatory fight. If WBA steps in, no one can stop them and I hope that they'd regulate and order more with these kind of fights.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 14, 2024, 06:20:38 PM

This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

Casimero is ready to fight him but it seems that Inoue doesn't want to, is that right?

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This is another great fight, and if Inoue wins here, I think he already clean up the division, although there are just one name that is going to be a big question, it's John Riel Casimero of the Philippines.

This could have been delayed though, as the fight could have happen if not for Tapales upsetting Akhmadaliev, but at least it's not too late. And September will be perfect as there are reports that this could also in the card of Joshua vs Dubois in Middle East. But we will see if Inoue is willing to go out of his comfort zone and fight outside of Japan. And who can't refused the money that is going to be offered by HE Turki Alalshikh for Inoue just to go to Saudi and meet Akhmadaliev?

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