Inoue vs. Donaire WBSS Bantamweight Final - page 6.

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This fight will be held in Japan i think, not China. I think there will be handicap but they will put it only days before the fight.

Venue: Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan

Fighting in your opponents hometown is challenging. Imagine your opponent will have the whole crowd behind his back and every time he throws a jab, crowd will react negatively. Unfortunately, Donaire's chance to win is getting slimmer and slimmer. He may wan't to win this match badly but everything from odds, age, crowd, record is all against him. He only have experience and heart and nothing more.

I hope judges won't be biased this time. There are lots of recorded fights where japanese fighter won even though they are clearly way behind points. I am not belittling Inoue since I know he is a capable fighter which can knock out an opponent, and Donaire is not exempted to these possibility, it's that, Japan boxing judge is known for unfair and biased judgement whenever a Japanese fighter fights on its homeland.

Donaire's best chance to win here is to knock down Inoue if we feel that the judge credibility is bad.
I can really sense that this fight will end up a knock out as for sure opposite to what Inoue told in the news that he will be more careful and not too aggressive, I don't think we will see that, Inoue is Inoue , monster is not calm, they love to knock you down right away.

He might mean it or not but even so we can definitely see on what are the things behind those words either he do just pretending to be
calm or just doing the opposite.Among on its fights you can really see the hunger for knockout as you can observed into its solid punches.
I havent seen Inoue to last up more rounds though so i might be interested if he would last up until the last round when we do talk about
stamina.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 01, 2019, 08:15:13 AM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 29, 2019, 07:06:52 PM

This fight will be held in Japan i think, not China. I think there will be handicap but they will put it only days before the fight.

Venue: Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan

Fighting in your opponents hometown is challenging. Imagine your opponent will have the whole crowd behind his back and every time he throws a jab, crowd will react negatively. Unfortunately, Donaire's chance to win is getting slimmer and slimmer. He may wan't to win this match badly but everything from odds, age, crowd, record is all against him. He only have experience and heart and nothing more.

I hope judges won't be biased this time. There are lots of recorded fights where japanese fighter won even though they are clearly way behind points. I am not belittling Inoue since I know he is a capable fighter which can knock out an opponent, and Donaire is not exempted to these possibility, it's that, Japan boxing judge is known for unfair and biased judgement whenever a Japanese fighter fights on its homeland.

Donaire's best chance to win here is to knock down Inoue if we feel that the judge credibility is bad.
I can really sense that this fight will end up a knock out as for sure opposite to what Inoue told in the news that he will be more careful and not too aggressive, I don't think we will see that, Inoue is Inoue , monster is not calm, they love to knock you down right away.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on November 01, 2019, 08:00:03 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 29, 2019, 07:06:52 PM

This fight will be held in Japan i think, not China. I think there will be handicap but they will put it only days before the fight.

Venue: Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan

Fighting in your opponents hometown is challenging. Imagine your opponent will have the whole crowd behind his back and every time he throws a jab, crowd will react negatively. Unfortunately, Donaire's chance to win is getting slimmer and slimmer. He may wan't to win this match badly but everything from odds, age, crowd, record is all against him. He only have experience and heart and nothing more.

I hope judges won't be biased this time. There are lots of recorded fights where japanese fighter won even though they are clearly way behind points. I am not belittling Inoue since I know he is a capable fighter which can knock out an opponent, and Donaire is not exempted to these possibility, it's that, Japan boxing judge is known for unfair and biased judgement whenever a Japanese fighter fights on its homeland.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 29, 2019, 07:06:52 PM

This fight will be held in Japan i think, not China. I think there will be handicap but they will put it only days before the fight.

Venue: Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan

Fighting in your opponents hometown is challenging. Imagine your opponent will have the whole crowd behind his back and every time he throws a jab, crowd will react negatively. Unfortunately, Donaire's chance to win is getting slimmer and slimmer. He may wan't to win this match badly but everything from odds, age, crowd, record is all against him. He only have experience and heart and nothing more.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 29, 2019, 06:29:24 PM

Definitely the odds will change but it would be not that much on the Japanese side, maybe on the side of Donaire it will go down to 4.0 i think.

Not thinking anymore that the odds will drop that low, this event is not fought in US where Donaire fight many times, this is in China so a lot of Japanese backers are putting their money to Inoue to win, but I think with handicap.

Actually I also like to see if there's an handicap in this game, in sportsbet, its' not available so betting on Inoue without handicap does not give good return.

This fight will be held in Japan i think, not China. I think there will be handicap but they will put it only days before the fight.

Venue: Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 29, 2019, 06:29:24 PM

Definitely the odds will change but it would be not that much on the Japanese side, maybe on the side of Donaire it will go down to 4.0 i think.

Not thinking anymore that the odds will drop that low, this event is not fought in US where Donaire fight many times, this is in ~~China~~ japan so a lot of Japanese backers are putting their money to Inoue to win, but I think with handicap.

Actually I also like to see if there's an handicap in this game, in sportsbet, its' not available so betting on Inoue without handicap does not give good return.

edit : mistype it, was thinking of Japan actually that's why I mentioned, Japanese.

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I was moved to put my bet on Inoue since sports analysts of a certain newspaper in my town was crediting that Donaire will have a hard time dealing with the Japanese. I also thought the analyst was right because Donaire was not the same as he was before and Inoue was more hungry for the win than him.

For me, I would not do that, with the current odds of Inoue, its not wise to risk a decent amount of money.
Just try to analyze this, say for example, you are betting on Inoue and the odds to win is 1.07 only, which means if you put $1000, you will only get $70.

Its not worth it, I tell you man, I suggest to just enjoy the game and forget that bet.

Maybe the odds will change as the match goes near. Let's see when the fight is near and I will place bets. Anyways, $70 is obviously too low but at least you know that the boxer you are betting with has a higher chance to win the fight. Yeah, it's too risky to place bets right now that's why I will still wait for the odds to change.

Definitely the odds will change but it would be not that much on the Japanese side, maybe on the side of Donaire it will go down to 4.0 i think.

You rely on the analyst before betting bro? Have you not followed the career of Donaire? Man, i tell you he did the odds on his first fight of this WBSS and come November 7, he would do the same. Small bet, high returns but the probability is high if you are on Donaire's side lol.

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Quote from: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-not-chase-ko-with-nonito-donaire--143540

"In my fight with Nonito Donaire, I do not dare pursue a knockout victory, but, basically, I am going to win by a wide decision by doing smart boxing, and in every round I'll find different way of strategy to reach the twelfth round," Inoue said.

What do you think about this statement of Naoya Inoue on the upcoming fight?
Seems like Naoya Inoue is afraid to get along together with Nonito Donaire on aggressive fight, since he is not aiming for a knockout victory.

I also read in some news that it seems like Naoya Inoue is have some tactics or strategy that he is telling about this so Nonito Donaire will use some strategy against him, since Naoya Inoue is very aggressive boxer and still young compare to Nonito Donaire.

We have to be careful with that statement as we might see a different strategy in the ring.
This man is an knock out artist, so I don't think he will change his strategy that is making him successful throughout his many fights.
When a boxer is humble when he is talking, he can be a beast inside the ring, that's what I noticed. Grin

Inoue just wanted to play it safe here, I mean we all know that he is a knock out artist so there's a big chance that he can KO Donaire. On the other hand, he has so much respect on Donaire as well that's why he is not talking smack against Nonito here.

So I wouldn't say that he is afraid, but if the opportunity is there then he will take it. But if not then probably he will shift to their plan b and change their strategy.

That's what I like on that kind of boxer which is humble and had really have some respect into its opponent not the same to those who do initially
make some trashtalks and underestimations.I don't even see for this fight to last up 12 rounds yet we would see some KO between 4 to 5th round.
This wont last too long.

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Quote from: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-not-chase-ko-with-nonito-donaire--143540

"In my fight with Nonito Donaire, I do not dare pursue a knockout victory, but, basically, I am going to win by a wide decision by doing smart boxing, and in every round I'll find different way of strategy to reach the twelfth round," Inoue said.

What do you think about this statement of Naoya Inoue on the upcoming fight?
Seems like Naoya Inoue is afraid to get along together with Nonito Donaire on aggressive fight, since he is not aiming for a knockout victory.

I also read in some news that it seems like Naoya Inoue is have some tactics or strategy that he is telling about this so Nonito Donaire will use some strategy against him, since Naoya Inoue is very aggressive boxer and still young compare to Nonito Donaire.

We have to be careful with that statement as we might see a different strategy in the ring.
This man is an knock out artist, so I don't think he will change his strategy that is making him successful throughout his many fights.
When a boxer is humble when he is talking, he can be a beast inside the ring, that's what I noticed. Grin

Inoue just wanted to play it safe here, I mean we all know that he is a knock out artist so there's a big chance that he can KO Donaire. On the other hand, he has so much respect on Donaire as well that's why he is not talking smack against Nonito here.

So I wouldn't say that he is afraid, but if the opportunity is there then he will take it. But if not then probably he will shift to their plan b and change their strategy.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 29, 2019, 06:00:24 AM

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I was moved to put my bet on Inoue since sports analysts of a certain newspaper in my town was crediting that Donaire will have a hard time dealing with the Japanese. I also thought the analyst was right because Donaire was not the same as he was before and Inoue was more hungry for the win than him.

For me, I would not do that, with the current odds of Inoue, its not wise to risk a decent amount of money.
Just try to analyze this, say for example, you are betting on Inoue and the odds to win is 1.07 only, which means if you put $1000, you will only get $70.

Its not worth it, I tell you man, I suggest to just enjoy the game and forget that bet.

Maybe the odds will change as the match goes near. Let's see when the fight is near and I will place bets. Anyways, $70 is obviously too low but at least you know that the boxer you are betting with has a higher chance to win the fight. Yeah, it's too risky to place bets right now that's why I will still wait for the odds to change.

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Quote from: Sadlife on October 28, 2019, 08:34:17 PM

we are getting close to the fight,have everyone of us is ready and have already chosen whom to bet?and about the budget to risk?

i will certainly support Nonito Donaire and surely he will defeat Inoue as all of the advantage is in this Great Filipino fighter

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Here the latest news from Donaire's camp.

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“His condition is good. We want to bring back his speed,” Donaire Jr.’s father and trainer Nonito Donaire Sr. told SunStar Cebu.

He is not young anymore so speed might be affected a bit but his father is putting a premium on this.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1829330/Cebu/Sports/Donaire-works-on-speed

Nice. At least at this stage of Donaire's career, they really have to adapt and change his training regimen and focus more on speed because during his prime his speed + timing of his left hook is very potent and deadly and usually he knocks out his opponent with those combinations.

they should have done that when the first time Donaire was defeated and loss his title.but eventhough i will trust Nonito to end this game with proud fist of winning

You have to remember that Nonito has a falling out with his father Nonito Sr. Rachel, her wife took over, then they switch camp to Garcia as a head trainer. But since they patch things up already. His father is now back to his corner together with Penalosa that's why they have been training in the Philippines ever since.

There's not much news about this fight it's a great match in the making, for me Donaire will have a hard time with Inoue there's a big difference with an up and coming boxer to veteran fighter, but Donaire is not in the league of Pacquiao and he is facing a very strong fighter who wants to be in the big league, I hope there will be a live telecast here in our country, this is a game worth watching.

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Quote from: Sadlife on October 28, 2019, 08:34:17 PM

we are getting close to the fight,have everyone of us is ready and have already chosen whom to bet?and about the budget to risk?

i will certainly support Nonito Donaire and surely he will defeat Inoue as all of the advantage is in this Great Filipino fighter

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 28, 2019, 07:05:58 PM

Here the latest news from Donaire's camp.

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“His condition is good. We want to bring back his speed,” Donaire Jr.’s father and trainer Nonito Donaire Sr. told SunStar Cebu.

He is not young anymore so speed might be affected a bit but his father is putting a premium on this.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1829330/Cebu/Sports/Donaire-works-on-speed

Nice. At least at this stage of Donaire's career, they really have to adapt and change his training regimen and focus more on speed because during his prime his speed + timing of his left hook is very potent and deadly and usually he knocks out his opponent with those combinations.

they should have done that when the first time Donaire was defeated and loss his title.but eventhough i will trust Nonito to end this game with proud fist of winning

You have to remember that Nonito has a falling out with his father Nonito Sr. Rachel, her wife took over, then they switch camp to Garcia as a head trainer. But since they patch things up already. His father is now back to his corner together with Penalosa that's why they have been training in the Philippines ever since.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 29, 2019, 06:50:51 AM

Quote from: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-not-chase-ko-with-nonito-donaire--143540

"In my fight with Nonito Donaire, I do not dare pursue a knockout victory, but, basically, I am going to win by a wide decision by doing smart boxing, and in every round I'll find different way of strategy to reach the twelfth round," Inoue said.

What do you think about this statement of Naoya Inoue on the upcoming fight?
Seems like Naoya Inoue is afraid to get along together with Nonito Donaire on aggressive fight, since he is not aiming for a knockout victory.

I also read in some news that it seems like Naoya Inoue is have some tactics or strategy that he is telling about this so Nonito Donaire will use some strategy against him, since Naoya Inoue is very aggressive boxer and still young compare to Nonito Donaire.

We have to be careful with that statement as we might see a different strategy in the ring.
This man is an knock out artist, so I don't think he will change his strategy that is making him successful throughout his many fights.
When a boxer is humble when he is talking, he can be a beast inside the ring, that's what I noticed. Grin

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Quote from: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-not-chase-ko-with-nonito-donaire--143540

"In my fight with Nonito Donaire, I do not dare pursue a knockout victory, but, basically, I am going to win by a wide decision by doing smart boxing, and in every round I'll find different way of strategy to reach the twelfth round," Inoue said.

What do you think about this statement of Naoya Inoue on the upcoming fight?
Seems like Naoya Inoue is afraid to get along together with Nonito Donaire on aggressive fight, since he is not aiming for a knockout victory.

I also read in some news that it seems like Naoya Inoue is have some tactics or strategy that he is telling about this so Nonito Donaire will use some strategy against him, since Naoya Inoue is very aggressive boxer and still young compare to Nonito Donaire.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on October 29, 2019, 05:34:17 AM

I was moved to put my bet on Inoue since sports analysts of a certain newspaper in my town was crediting that Donaire will have a hard time dealing with the Japanese. I also thought the analyst was right because Donaire was not the same as he was before and Inoue was more hungry for the win than him.

For me, I would not do that, with the current odds of Inoue, its not wise to risk a decent amount of money.
Just try to analyze this, say for example, you are betting on Inoue and the odds to win is 1.07 only, which means if you put $1000, you will only get $70.

Its not worth it, I tell you man, I suggest to just enjoy the game and forget that bet.

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I’m afraid that Nonito Donaire wasn’t that one whom I supported years ago,when every fight is always been watched .but now?he seems to be more slower and not like the fighting Senator Manny Donaire’s speed is Lessen years after years I don’t know if he I saw not focusing in training after each games but why did Manny maintains his?

I am not sure but Inoue has advantage on this fight and I can see he’s triumphant against Nonito ,but since there’s no decision before the bout,yet I will not lose hope for him to hold the belt

They are working on his speed but its normal that at his age he will slow down a bit.
However, he can use his experience against the younger fighter whom very aggressive, with his great power and good counter punching ability, this will really help him a lot if he will take it slow.

It's good to bet on Donaire because of experience, I did watch the highlights of Inoue and he really a is a beast but he cannot underestimate Donaire here, he also needs to focus on his defense if don't want to be knock out with one big punch.

his highlights if anyone hasn't shared yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hhUihZMq3Q

I was moved to put my bet on Inoue since sports analysts of a certain newspaper in my town was crediting that Donaire will have a hard time dealing with the Japanese. I also thought the analyst was right because Donaire was not the same as he was before and Inoue was more hungry for the win than him.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 29, 2019, 01:03:26 AM

Quote from: Reatim on October 28, 2019, 11:23:08 PM

I’m afraid that Nonito Donaire wasn’t that one whom I supported years ago,when every fight is always been watched .but now?he seems to be more slower and not like the fighting Senator Manny Donaire’s speed is Lessen years after years I don’t know if he I saw not focusing in training after each games but why did Manny maintains his?

I am not sure but Inoue has advantage on this fight and I can see he’s triumphant against Nonito ,but since there’s no decision before the bout,yet I will not lose hope for him to hold the belt

They are working on his speed but its normal that at his age he will slow down a bit.
However, he can use his experience against the younger fighter whom very aggressive, with his great power and good counter punching ability, this will really help him a lot if he will take it slow.

It's good to bet on Donaire because of experience, I did watch the highlights of Inoue and he really a is a beast but he cannot underestimate Donaire here, he also needs to focus on his defense if don't want to be knock out with one big punch.

his highlights if anyone hasn't shared yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hhUihZMq3Q

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 29, 2019, 01:03:26 AM

Quote from: Reatim on October 28, 2019, 11:23:08 PM

I’m afraid that Nonito Donaire wasn’t that one whom I supported years ago,when every fight is always been watched .but now?he seems to be more slower and not like the fighting Senator Manny Donaire’s speed is Lessen years after years I don’t know if he I saw not focusing in training after each games but why did Manny maintains his?

I am not sure but Inoue has advantage on this fight and I can see he’s triumphant against Nonito ,but since there’s no decision before the bout,yet I will not lose hope for him to hold the belt

They are working on his speed but its normal that at his age he will slow down a bit.
However, he can use his experience against the younger fighter whom very aggressive, with his great power and good counter punching ability, this will really help him a lot if he will take it slow.

We wouldn't know if Nonito is just silently training up and keep on private or shall we say they aren't airing everything on media just like on what Manny does.

This is why people can say that he isn't really that serious in terms of his own training.We cant be sure yet on which is true but I highly doubt that Inoue will really give
a good fight and might able to win the match. One careless move and that brat will surely give some knockout punch.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 28, 2019, 11:23:08 PM

I’m afraid that Nonito Donaire wasn’t that one whom I supported years ago,when every fight is always been watched .but now?he seems to be more slower and not like the fighting Senator Manny Donaire’s speed is Lessen years after years I don’t know if he I saw not focusing in training after each games but why did Manny maintains his?

I am not sure but Inoue has advantage on this fight and I can see he’s triumphant against Nonito ,but since there’s no decision before the bout,yet I will not lose hope for him to hold the belt

They are working on his speed but its normal that at his age he will slow down a bit.
However, he can use his experience against the younger fighter whom very aggressive, with his great power and good counter punching ability, this will really help him a lot if he will take it slow.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2019, 05:29:57 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 28, 2019, 02:32:44 PM

also add the fact that he is fighting in his home country.

Maybe that's what really makes him the favorite of this fight, Donaire might be the underdog but not this much, so I think its an opportunity for us who believe on Donaire to get this very appealing odds, I would prefer to see a knockdown because when it goes to scorecard, we don't have the edge since its played in his home country which is in Japan.

We really can't predict whether Donaire still have that same instincts the KO punch where he once being known. He needs to be in good shape to survive the fight knowing Inoue is playing in front of his home crowd the chance is really slim for Donaire. It's now a matter of how fans will believe to this champ to bet with him even odd's heavy favorite is all for Inoue. Big risk but if fate brings luck to Donaire it's also a big rewards in return.

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