Inoue vs. Donaire WBSS Bantamweight Final - page 8.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 08, 2019, 06:53:49 AM

This is probably the biggest test for Donaire if he still has it, he is up against a very strong and hungry fighter, of course, we cannot compare him to Many Pacquiao they are two different fighters, I'm rooting for Donaire, he has the experience and I believe his left hook still packs a power, but if he loses it's time for him to hang his globes.

Yeah, probably his biggest test because his career is on the line here. And what better stage it will be to showcase it if he still has it against the monster Inoue. Definitely his biggest advantage here is his experience, just like what Pacquiao shows against Thurman. I think at the end of the day, if Donaire losses this one, I don't think he will simply hang up his gloves. He still looks fresh at his age, meaning his body didn't take a lot of beatings as compare to Manny Pacquiao. Of course, I'm going to root for Donaire and hope he can pull some left hooks and get a knock out. That is his signature move, check left hook, so let's see!!!.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 08, 2019, 04:29:04 AM

With less than a month before Nonito Donaire fight the "monster" Inoue, the latter remains the heavy favorite and the money is pouring on his favor.

Inoue = 1.04, Donaire = 8.20

^^ is the odds on Sportsbet. This look very temping to Filipino fight fans out there as they knew the "Filipino Flash" capability. He maybe old but it only take a punch to turn around a fight.

Well, that's right, filipino fans will always bet on Donaire no matter what the odds is, in this one where fans will get 7 times of their money, they will surely take this odds. However, the filipino betters although they are big in volume but they don't bet that much, that's why the line barely move.

There's no alternative odds so far, hopefully there will more odds to choose from like Donaire winning via knockout, round 1, 2, and etc...
We know Donaire have some struggle in his carrier but he can use that experience in this fight, and it could be just our own belief as the bookmakers really think it's an easy win for Inoue.. me, I would just bet for fun, I won't bother researching and analyzing this game as I'm rooting for the heavy dog.

This is probably the biggest test for Donaire if he still has it, he is up against a very strong and hungry fighter, of course, we cannot compare him to Many Pacquiao they are two different fighters, I'm rooting for Donaire, he has the experience and I believe his left hook still packs a power, but if he loses it's time for him to hang his globes.

Too early to say to hang up his gloves yet his still 37 years old which is quite younger compared to Manny but im sure he wont retire boxing if he lose this upcoming match.
Donaire do have 40W-5L-0D stats while Inoue do had 18W-0L with 16 KO's overall. Donaire might have low KO percentage but in terms of experience and body build.
I do have the strong factors why would i consider Donaire for this one but i shall say that this would be a hell of a tough fight against on a younger and solid puncher opponent.

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Quote from: stadus on October 08, 2019, 04:52:34 AM

Quote from: Natalim on October 08, 2019, 04:42:02 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 08, 2019, 04:29:04 AM

With less than a month before Nonito Donaire fight the "monster" Inoue, the latter remains the heavy favorite and the money is pouring on his favor.

Inoue = 1.04, Donaire = 8.20

^^ is the odds on Sportsbet. This look very temping to Filipino fight fans out there as they knew the "Filipino Flash" capability. He maybe old but it only take a punch to turn around a fight.

Well, that's right, filipino fans will always bet on Donaire no matter what the odds is, in this one where fans will get 7 times of their money, they will surely take this odds. However, the filipino betters although they are big in volume but they don't bet that much, that's why the line barely move.

There's no alternative odds so far, hopefully there will more odds to choose from like Donaire winning via knockout, round 1, 2, and etc...
We know Donaire have some struggle in his carrier but he can use that experience in this fight, and it could be just our own belief as the bookmakers really think it's an easy win for Inoue.. me, I would just bet for fun, I won't bother researching and analyzing this game as I'm rooting for the heavy dog.

This is probably the biggest test for Donaire if he still has it, he is up against a very strong and hungry fighter, of course, we cannot compare him to Many Pacquiao they are two different fighters, I'm rooting for Donaire, he has the experience and I believe his left hook still packs a power, but if he loses it's time for him to hang his globes.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 08, 2019, 04:42:02 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 08, 2019, 04:29:04 AM

With less than a month before Nonito Donaire fight the "monster" Inoue, the latter remains the heavy favorite and the money is pouring on his favor.

Inoue = 1.04, Donaire = 8.20

^^ is the odds on Sportsbet. This look very temping to Filipino fight fans out there as they knew the "Filipino Flash" capability. He maybe old but it only take a punch to turn around a fight.

Well, that's right, filipino fans will always bet on Donaire no matter what the odds is, in this one where fans will get 7 times of their money, they will surely take this odds. However, the filipino betters although they are big in volume but they don't bet that much, that's why the line barely move.

There's no alternative odds so far, hopefully there will more odds to choose from like Donaire winning via knockout, round 1, 2, and etc...
We know Donaire have some struggle in his carrier but he can use that experience in this fight, and it could be just our own belief as the bookmakers really think it's an easy win for Inoue.. me, I would just bet for fun, I won't bother researching and analyzing this game as I'm rooting for the heavy dog.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 08, 2019, 04:29:04 AM

With less than a month before Nonito Donaire fight the "monster" Inoue, the latter remains the heavy favorite and the money is pouring on his favor.

Inoue = 1.04, Donaire = 8.20

^^ is the odds on Sportsbet. This look very temping to Filipino fight fans out there as they knew the "Filipino Flash" capability. He maybe old but it only take a punch to turn around a fight.

Well, that's right, filipino fans will always bet on Donaire no matter what the odds is, in this one where fans will get 7 times of their money, they will surely take this odds. However, the filipino betters although they are big in volume but they don't bet that much, that's why the line barely move.

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With less than a month before Nonito Donaire fight the "monster" Inoue, the latter remains the heavy favorite and the money is pouring on his favor.

Inoue = 1.04, Donaire = 8.20

^^ is the odds on Sportsbet. This look very temping to Filipino fight fans out there as they knew the "Filipino Flash" capability. He maybe old but it only take a punch to turn around a fight.

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This fight is getting closer and closer. Follow the latest news and interviews at https://box.live/fights/inoue-vs-donaire/#news

Inoue still remains the heavy favorite. Other than age, these two are very much identical especially the height and reach

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 25, 2019, 11:40:13 PM

I think his pretty much contented to what he has achieved specially as a Filipino. Manny is just a freak, which we may never seen in the next 50 years. Donaire is good but not elite like Manny is. If he can upset Inoue her it will be a good year and could be one of the best comebacks in recent years.

That's a challenge for him, probably the biggest fight of Donaire and if he can upset Inoue, this hype fighter would eventually slowly loss his confidence and the fans might be disappointed because they underestimated Donaire here based on his betting odds that we see.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 22, 2019, 11:39:21 PM

I think Donaire move in weight when he fought Walters there. You can see it was a total mismatch but Donaire fought his hearts out but it was not even. But then Loma TKO Walters in their fight in 6th round. Maybe you can also check it out. Grin

I agree with it, I think that is the main reason, he was able to hit Walter with a good counter punch, that was suppose to be a knockdown if was in the weight that he was strong enough. Walters is not as fast as Donaire but because he was not able to bring his power when he moves up, that creates a big problem, he thought he could be like Manny the Pound for pound king, but that was a failed mission.

Correct, Donaire's wasn't able to bring his power when he move up in weight. Everyone regarded him as the next Manny Pacquiao from the Philippines, but it wasn't true when when the first time he move up, the power is no longer there because the opponent is much bigger and can take his punch. At least he decided to stay in lower weights and show us that he can still win.

That's what he should do, be contented on what he achieved as he is not an extraordinary boxer like Manny Pacquiao.

I think his pretty much contented to what he has achieved specially as a Filipino. Manny is just a freak, which we may never seen in the next 50 years. Donaire is good but not elite like Manny is. If he can upset Inoue her it will be a good year and could be one of the best comebacks in recent years.

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Odds Update as of August 26, 2019.

The difference are still far behind since the fight is in 3 months more. We can also add up why the odds is still high favor on Inoue because of home court advantage which the fight will happen to Japan. Do you guys know some betting websites that has already starting to accept bets on this match? (gambling sites that only accept bitcoin)

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 24, 2019, 07:45:16 PM

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 22, 2019, 11:39:21 PM

I think Donaire move in weight when he fought Walters there. You can see it was a total mismatch but Donaire fought his hearts out but it was not even. But then Loma TKO Walters in their fight in 6th round. Maybe you can also check it out. Grin

I agree with it, I think that is the main reason, he was able to hit Walter with a good counter punch, that was suppose to be a knockdown if was in the weight that he was strong enough. Walters is not as fast as Donaire but because he was not able to bring his power when he moves up, that creates a big problem, he thought he could be like Manny the Pound for pound king, but that was a failed mission.

Correct, Donaire's wasn't able to bring his power when he move up in weight. Everyone regarded him as the next Manny Pacquiao from the Philippines, but it wasn't true when when the first time he move up, the power is no longer there because the opponent is much bigger and can take his punch. At least he decided to stay in lower weights and show us that he can still win.

That's what he should do, be contented on what he achieved as he is not an extraordinary boxer like Manny Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 23, 2019, 03:49:49 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 22, 2019, 11:39:21 PM

I think Donaire move in weight when he fought Walters there. You can see it was a total mismatch but Donaire fought his hearts out but it was not even. But then Loma TKO Walters in their fight in 6th round. Maybe you can also check it out. Grin

I agree with it, I think that is the main reason, he was able to hit Walter with a good counter punch, that was suppose to be a knockdown if was in the weight that he was strong enough. Walters is not as fast as Donaire but because he was not able to bring his power when he moves up, that creates a big problem, he thought he could be like Manny the Pound for pound king, but that was a failed mission.

Correct, Donaire's wasn't able to bring his power when he move up in weight. Everyone regarded him as the next Manny Pacquiao from the Philippines, but it wasn't true when when the first time he move up, the power is no longer there because the opponent is much bigger and can take his punch. At least he decided to stay in lower weights and show us that he can still win.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 22, 2019, 11:39:21 PM

I think Donaire move in weight when he fought Walters there. You can see it was a total mismatch but Donaire fought his hearts out but it was not even. But then Loma TKO Walters in their fight in 6th round. Maybe you can also check it out. Grin

I agree with it, I think that is the main reason, he was able to hit Walter with a good counter punch, that was suppose to be a knockdown if was in the weight that he was strong enough. Walters is not as fast as Donaire but because he was not able to bring his power when he moves up, that creates a big problem, he thought he could be like Manny the Pound for pound king, but that was a failed mission.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 22, 2019, 07:00:59 PM

Both Fighter is good, so fast and so strong and for sure there will be a knockdown that will finish the game . Inoue is a monster fighter but nonito has a ability to knockout his opponent in one puch even in the dangerous situation. You can see it in his all fights against all the champ he fought. But in only one mistake as well for noninto. Wherein if he can catch inoue punches because of being so fast . He will strugglle in the corner and there's a possibility he get knockout as well because inoue is heavy handed boxer like thurman.

It's more on Inoue who is a knock out artist here, that's why fight fans love his fight because he destroys everyone. While Donaire during his prime is a calculated fighter and looking for that opening, one move back and then his left hook. And that what makes this fight very exciting because of the styles. Inoue can have the advantage, but one punch can change the game.

@Ziskinberg - I think Donaire move in weight when he fought Walters there. You can see it was a total mismatch but Donaire fought his hearts out but it was not even. But then Loma TKO Walters in their fight in 6th round. Maybe you can also check it out. Grin

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Both Fighter is good, so fast and so strong and for sure there will be a knockdown that will finish the game . Inoue is a monster fighter but nonito has a ability to knockout his opponent in one puch even in the dangerous situation. You can see it in his all fights against all the champ he fought. But in only one mistake as well for noninto. Wherein if he can catch inoue punches because of being so fast . He will strugglle in the corner and there's a possibility he get knockout as well because inoue is heavy handed boxer like thurman.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 21, 2019, 10:32:46 AM

It is not the popularity that make the boxer becoming famous but it was from their ability and capacity,and yes you are right if they will be compared in same years starting career Mannys popularity is lessen you know why.becaue manny came from the Philippines in which poorer than Japan and the local media cannot make noise like what japans media can.and also that one when Pacquiao was started social media wasn’t that famous and used compared as what we have today,today in just one Post from Facebook million people may watch or comment but not 20 years ago

Lol, when you are popular you are also famous as they are synonymous. Manny became famous/popular in the US because of his fighting style. He is of a brawler and all of his fights in the US were action packed and Americans greatly appreciated it. With regards to Inoue, even with social media, still he is not that popular worldwide though he is popular in Japan. With this fight with Donaire, his presence is starting to be noticed in the boxing community and it would be boasted if he beat Donaire.

lol have just use the wrong term but you know what I mean,popularity don’t mea you are really a great boxer at all because media can make anyone popular but the truth is they don’t have that skills at all and that’s reality
It isn’t easy to make someone. Champion by name but not in the ring

I did not mention US specifically lol 😂,what I I’m saying here is that Pacquiao made he’s debut everyone in the Philippines and prove he’s capacity as a legend when he wasn’t thy popular at all,the US fights are just additive to he’s career as professional boxer.

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Quote from: Finestream on August 20, 2019, 10:44:10 PM

By looking at his previous opponents, I think he has a lot to prove and I think Donaire has a shot of beating him, but let's see what comes up in 7 Nov 2019 which is the schedule of the fight, again in Japan.

Donaire has definitely a shot here. We all know that during Donaire's prime nobody can't touch him in the bantamweight division. Also he no longer the same Donaire we once knew, but with his experience he can definitely upset Inoue here.

Donaire knows how to read his opponent in the first few round and then adjust. So this will be like a chess game. If Inoue fought not moving his head, Donaire will take that opportunity and expose him with his left hook.

The old Donaire has long been gone. While I hope that he comes back, at least with his bout against Inoue, the reality is that it may be unlikely. The former, once touted as The Filipino Flash, has become slower with age. And considering that he is basically a counter puncher, speed is very necessary. Outside counter punching, Donaire is like a one two puncher, constantly looking for a knockdown.

We may never know, maybe he got the second wind and show great strength against Inoue and bring back the time. And your are right that he is a counter puncher, but I don't agree that speed is necessary if you love to counter.

What you need is timing and perfect execution to hit that one counter that will chance the game. So that's why he needed a perfect game plan here, used his experience in order to upset Inoue, just saying.

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Mayweather is good, actually better than Manny and he fights in the US but who has the biggest no. of fans when Manny and Mayweather fight, of course obviously Manny as we bear boos for Mayweathers while cheers for Manny.

TBH, I've never seen a fight where Manny has less fans compared to his opponents in the venue, Manny could be a good boxing ambassador as lots of people admire him the way he handle himself and even proven to win a championship at his age now.

He is a good example and an inspiration to boxers who aim to become a legend.

Inoue is a Japanese, I don't know his life story but Filipinos and Japanese have different culture, Filipinos are known polite and humble, and that's what Manny is showing to the world.

We don't know Inoue's background but as far as his countrymen support him, maybe he is the Manny Pacquiao in Japan. If he can win against Donaire then many Japanese will be inspired by him.

You can search for him! He is a BEAST Im telling you. I can't compare him to Manny Pacquiao since he has his own level of boxing that we might be seeing a future boxer superstar in the making. I am waiting for this fight and I want to see how will Donaire fight in this match since if you will be watching the past matches of Inoue, you will see how explosive his punches are.

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Quote from: joshy23 on August 22, 2019, 06:09:59 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 21, 2019, 02:46:28 AM

Quote from: Finestream on August 20, 2019, 10:44:10 PM

By looking at his previous opponents, I think he has a lot to prove and I think Donaire has a shot of beating him, but let's see what comes up in 7 Nov 2019 which is the schedule of the fight, again in Japan.

Donaire has definitely a shot here. We all know that during Donaire's prime nobody can't touch him in the bantamweight division. Also he no longer the same Donaire we once knew, but with his experience he can definitely upset Inoue here.

Donaire knows how to read his opponent in the first few round and then adjust. So this will be like a chess game. If Inoue fought not moving his head, Donaire will take that opportunity and expose him with his left hook.

That's a skills donaire have he study how get the rhythm before he will going to take the charge, allow his opponents to keep showing good while he's finding ways to get the advantage that he's aiming, though age might change his speed but the power punch will be there to protect him and give him the spark defeating Inoue.

Donaire has a problem in facing an aggressive fighter and a bigger fighter than him, his big loss was against Nicholas Walters, that guy was really aggressive and strong, and he is taller than Donaire .

I made some research to see the comparison,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonito_Donaire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Walters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoya_Inoue

Inoue is strong but I like the chances of Donaire since Inoue only stands 5 ft 5 in which is shorter that Donaire and based on the fight history of Donaire, he has dominated a smaller fighter like Darchinyan which is also 5 ft 5 in.

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Quote from: Jating on August 21, 2019, 02:46:28 AM

Quote from: Finestream on August 20, 2019, 10:44:10 PM

By looking at his previous opponents, I think he has a lot to prove and I think Donaire has a shot of beating him, but let's see what comes up in 7 Nov 2019 which is the schedule of the fight, again in Japan.

Donaire has definitely a shot here. We all know that during Donaire's prime nobody can't touch him in the bantamweight division. Also he no longer the same Donaire we once knew, but with his experience he can definitely upset Inoue here.

Donaire knows how to read his opponent in the first few round and then adjust. So this will be like a chess game. If Inoue fought not moving his head, Donaire will take that opportunity and expose him with his left hook.

That's a skills donaire have he study how get the rhythm before he will going to take the charge, allow his opponents to keep showing good while he's finding ways to get the advantage that he's aiming, though age might change his speed but the power punch will be there to protect him and give him the spark defeating Inoue.

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