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Quote from: inBitweTrust on July 21, 2014, 08:42:58 PM

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Quote from: cinder on July 15, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

The Darkwallet concept already does work and is being used right now. Go ahead and download it and start testing it in the testnet:

https://darkwallet.is

Don't you essentially need to trust the darkwallet devs with your private keys when you have coins in this wallet? Isn't the darkwallet basically just using shared send on ever transaction, that researchers have determined to be no so anon?

Darkwallet is open source so anyone can audit the code, if you don't read the source yourself than you have to trust a friend just like with bitcoin core.

Yes, being in alpha , only use testnet coins, and there needs more work done. Not exactly shared send but a simplified version of coinjoin is being used. Coinjoin + stealth is pretty damn good for privacy but there are plans of strengthening the coinjoin implementation:
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/CoinMixing

I think I read somewhere that darkwallet is not 100% decentralized.

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Good link. Thanks. I am waiting for the Beta version of it. The wallet has many good features.

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Quote from: Harley997 on July 21, 2014, 07:56:45 PM

Quote from: inBitweTrust on July 17, 2014, 08:04:02 AM

Quote from: cinder on July 15, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

The Darkwallet concept already does work and is being used right now. Go ahead and download it and start testing it in the testnet:

https://darkwallet.is

Don't you essentially need to trust the darkwallet devs with your private keys when you have coins in this wallet? Isn't the darkwallet basically just using shared send on ever transaction, that researchers have determined to be no so anon?

Darkwallet is open source so anyone can audit the code, if you don't read the source yourself than you have to trust a friend just like with bitcoin core.

Yes, being in alpha , only use testnet coins, and there needs more work done. Not exactly shared send but a simplified version of coinjoin is being used. Coinjoin + stealth is pretty damn good for privacy but there are plans of strengthening the coinjoin implementation:
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/CoinMixing

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on July 17, 2014, 08:04:02 AM

Quote from: cinder on July 15, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

The Darkwallet concept already does work and is being used right now. Go ahead and download it and start testing it in the testnet:

https://darkwallet.is

Don't you essentially need to trust the darkwallet devs with your private keys when you have coins in this wallet? Isn't the darkwallet basically just using shared send on ever transaction, that researchers have determined to be no so anon?

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Quote from: cinder on July 15, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/18091/is-there-any-true-anonymous-cryptocurrencies/18096#18096

He mentions DarkWallet a couple of times and discusses CoinJoin and CoinSwap at the start of his post both of which are proposed for DarkWallet. (Are they only using CoinJoin at the moment? Not sure...)

Also here is some information from the DarkWallet wiki:

https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/CoinMixing

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Quote from: cinder on July 15, 2014, 01:33:02 PM

Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

The Darkwallet concept already does work and is being used right now. Go ahead and download it and start testing it in the testnet:

https://darkwallet.is

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Thanks for sharing.

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Anyone with technical skill care to point out if dark wallet concept work?

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Quote from: nkocevar on July 15, 2014, 01:20:11 PM

I guess that would make sense. Of course im not bitrich therefore that doesnt apply to me.

Are you still not bitrich if the value goes up by an order of magnitude like it did in November?

Splitting my coins was the single largest transaction I had ever made in my life (ie: over my $1000/day fiat limits).

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Quote from: rebuilder on July 15, 2014, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: nkocevar on July 15, 2014, 10:59:26 AM

Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?

Because flaunting your wealth makes you a target. Mixing your coins lets you not worry so much about some mugger applying the proverbial 5 dollar wrench to your body to get at your stash.

I guess that would make sense. Of course im not bitrich therefore that doesnt apply to me.

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Quote from: nkocevar on July 15, 2014, 10:59:26 AM

Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?

Because flaunting your wealth makes you a target. Mixing your coins lets you not worry so much about some mugger applying the proverbial 5 dollar wrench to your body to get at your stash.

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Personally, I dont have a need to hide my transactions from the public. I mean other than tax evasion why would you need to hide your transactions in the first place? Are you hiring hitmen?

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Quote from: keithers on July 14, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

Quote from: Ron~Popeil on July 12, 2014, 12:46:23 AM

I would be concerned about mixing services. Who do you turn to if they abscond with your bit coin? I think funneling it through multiple exchanges converting it to different currencies several times would do the trick wouldn't it? There aren't really any trust less solutions out there currently.

Yeah I agree...I'm really not too sure why you would really need to be mixing all your coins at this point in the game (unless you have something to hide). Governments are still ultimately deciding how to regulate BTC. They will need to come to a conclusion on that before they move their goals towards tracking and surveillance.

The block-chain record is very public, and very permanent. If you are concerned that at some point in the future Bitcoins may be declared illegal, you should be mixing now. The reason is that you can be traced retroactively. Bitcoin is only pseudonymous, not anonymous. That means that your anonymity can be stripped away by any service that does not respect your privacy (such as an exchange required by law to keep lots of identifying details).

CoinJoin transactions are safer than mixers in that they can operate without trusting the mixing service: if you use a new address every time (if two participants try to send to the same address, there is room for cheating).

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Quote from: Ron~Popeil on July 12, 2014, 12:46:23 AM

Quote from: OROBTC on July 12, 2014, 12:20:32 AM

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That was an interesting article, bravo! Thanks for posting it.

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For little fishez like most of us there are already tools that we can use that will hide our BTC transaction tracks from all but the most determined and highly skilled trackers:

-- buy a used laptop from a pawn shop (pay cash) and use its wifi where you normally never go...
-- use TOR (although I personally do not know how, rumor has it that TOR may be compromised anyway)
-- use mixing services for your BTC. I like the mixing services bitmixer.io and sharedcoin.com, use both...
-- make LOTS of transactions via multiple wallets

If you are doing nothing illegal, and the amounts are fairly small, it is hard for me to see anyone getting "caught". Caught for what?

I would be concerned about mixing services. Who do you turn to if they abscond with your bit coin? I think funneling it through multiple exchanges converting it to different currencies several times would do the trick wouldn't it? There aren't really any trust less solutions out there currently.

Yeah I agree...I'm really not too sure why you would really need to be mixing all your coins at this point in the game (unless you have something to hide). Governments are still ultimately deciding how to regulate BTC. They will need to come to a conclusion on that before they move their goals towards tracking and surveillance.

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What do you guys think about Monero and CryptoNote in general? I think it plays a legitimate role and solves the privacy issue more efficient that BTC itself. Also, the Monero team is in direct touch with the i2p team, which I trust way more than TOR lately.

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on July 14, 2014, 08:06:40 AM

Quote from: Catmoonglow on July 14, 2014, 04:40:01 AM

They sure do appear to enjoy press and attention which seems odd for a couple of anonymity-focused crypto-anarchists.

Good. They need to bring attention to important topics such as these to wake up people and make people think.

Got around to reading it and it was a fascinating article about anonymity and the battle between government and privacy based folks, although it is a bit amusing that they do enjoy the Press but that's a good thing I guess.

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Quote from: newuser01 on July 14, 2014, 08:32:56 AM

Cus they gotta sell off the 50% premine on darkcoin

hahahahha

What does darkcoin have to do with dark wallet? Dark wallet is not a coin but a free open source wallet.

Stop Spreading FUD.

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