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legendary
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April 18, 2013, 06:57:41 AM
A link to a scan of a police report filed by Paymium has been posted in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177317.0;all

by user naphto.

Looks real to me, but I don't see any comment or explanation from Boussac, which is pretty bad style IMO.
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
April 18, 2013, 05:20:15 AM
Funds were stolen: a police report was filed by Paymium with BEFTI ( Brigade d’Enquêtes sur les Fraudes aux Technologies de l’Information, a unit of the French "Police Judiciaire") and an investigation is in progress.

Do you have a case number please?

If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.

This seems wrong.  If the attacker and the rightful owner both have the same 'secret URL' why would you think the first one to claim would be the rightful owner?  It would be better to have people prove ownership by signing messages with addresses used to deposit to the wallet before the attack.  If I can prove I both (a) know the secret URL and (b) control an address that deposited to the wallet before your security blunder then it's very likely my wallet.


I have asked the same questions repeatedly. He has ignored.

He will probably ignore you too. Definitely your first question...
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
April 18, 2013, 05:18:16 AM
Unignore

I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!

Couldn't agree more...

All ease aside, the one hint is the lack of a police report number (and possibly them being one sick motherfuckers).

Ignore




Why not just give the police report number Boussac?

Can't you see that people are getting angry for this reason alone?

If you just provided the information that so many people are asking for then all this unpleasantness could be avoided.

You are 100% personally creating this situation.
legendary
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RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME
April 18, 2013, 03:11:40 AM
I posted this in another thread- but why not get a bounty together and hire a private detective to find the guys behind paymium?
legendary
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Merit: 1333
April 18, 2013, 03:05:04 AM
Funds were stolen: a police report was filed by Paymium with BEFTI ( Brigade d’Enquêtes sur les Fraudes aux Technologies de l’Information, a unit of the French "Police Judiciaire") and an investigation is in progress.

Do you have a case number please?

If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.

This seems wrong.  If the attacker and the rightful owner both have the same 'secret URL' why would you think the first one to claim would be the rightful owner?  It would be better to have people prove ownership by signing messages with addresses used to deposit to the wallet before the attack.  If I can prove I both (a) know the secret URL and (b) control an address that deposited to the wallet before your security blunder then it's very likely my wallet.
legendary
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Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
April 17, 2013, 07:12:59 PM
Unignore

I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!

Couldn't agree more...

All ease aside, the one hint is the lack of a police report number (and possibly them being one sick motherfuckers).

Ignore




And that, my friends, shows exactly what type of individual we are dealing with here.

Quite frankly, I seriously don't have a clue as to who was running InstaWallet after reading the following:

I can't withdraw my funds but the tx has over 15 confirmations  Embarrassed hopefully this is just a glitch and they haven't been hacked.
You should now be able to withdraw your coins. And no, nothing was hacked Smiley

THE VERY NEXT POST.

I love the new design of the home page. And the fact that it has NEVER been hacked.
Stephan, Arsy and davout you are doing a great job with Instawallet.

Theymos, exactly what would it take for you to give all these fucks a scammer tag? Wait till after 90 days? Why can't they give us a police report number? It's not like the police are going to give vitals of the report to just anybody that calls, but they would assure us that one was placed when Boussac said he filed one.
legendary
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e-ducat.fr
April 17, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
Unignore

I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!

Couldn't agree more...

All ease aside, the one hint is the lack of a police report number (and possibly them being one sick motherfuckers).

Ignore


legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
April 17, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!

Couldn't agree more...

Paymium are not to be trusted as a company.

And if there is one hint of fraud in this they're going down for sure.

All else aside, the one hint is the lack of a police report number (and possibly them being one sick motherfuckers).
full member
Activity: 172
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April 17, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!

Couldn't agree more...

Paymium are not to be trusted as a company.

And if there is one hint of fraud in this they're going down for sure.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
April 16, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
I see how the game is played now: Hack your own sites, claim money was stolen, claim to fill out a police report, ignore all requests from those who entrusted you with their assets, then call them trolls for requesting a simple number to set them at ease.

You sir, are one sick mother fucker!
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 1000
April 16, 2013, 06:57:27 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad

Your question was not ignored: it was answered before you asked.
I appreciate the fact that this thread is spammed by 2 or 3 trolls who lack the most basic respect to other claimants and to me (they presume me guilty until proven innocent) by posting dozens of posts.

However I recommend that you read my posts before asking:

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After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded.

If claims are filed by someone who has had access to our database and we refund claims immediately, what do we do when the legitimate owner comes along with his claim perhaps a week later ?
By any standard, 90 days is a reasonable time frame for most instawallet owners to retrieve their urls and submit their claims in due time.


Hi Boussac. I hope you are not counting me as one of the trolls.  Huh

If you are not going to give us the police report number can you at least give us a reason why you will not give it to us?

This might help us understand your situation.

Bet you a million bitcoins he ignores your question.

LOL.
full member
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Merit: 100
April 16, 2013, 06:49:50 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad

Your question was not ignored: it was answered before you asked.
I appreciate the fact that this thread is spammed by 2 or 3 trolls who lack the most basic respect to other claimants and to me (they presume me guilty until proven innocent) by posting dozens of posts.

However I recommend that you read my posts before asking:

Quote
After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded.

If claims are filed by someone who has had access to our database and we refund claims immediately, what do we do when the legitimate owner comes along with his claim perhaps a week later ?
By any standard, 90 days is a reasonable time frame for most instawallet owners to retrieve their urls and submit their claims in due time.


Hi Boussac. I hope you are not counting me as one of the trolls.  Huh

If you are not going to give us the police report number can you at least give us a reason why you will not give it to us?

This might help us understand your situation.

Bet you a million bitcoins he ignores your question.
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
April 16, 2013, 06:48:00 AM

I appreciate the fact that this thread is spammed by 2 or 3 trolls who lack the most basic respect to other claimants and to me (they presume me guilty until proven innocent) by posting dozens of posts.


Boussac,

Your comments are disengenious.

It is you who lack the most basic respect.

You have been asked, cordially and amicably, over and and over again by multiple people, if you would please supply the police report file number for the case you claim has been opened with the French police.

And you have ignored that question every single time. This is disrespectful in the extreme.

If you had simply provided this information in the first instance then none of the charges currently being leveled against you and Paymium would have been voiced.

The fact that you continue to refuse to provided this basic information in order to corroborate your claim that this has been been reported to the authorities, sheds a very negative light on you personally and on Paymium as a company.

At worst you are lying about the case being opened, at best you are being grossly unprofessional by not providing this information. And to call people "trolls" because they have become frustrated by your lack of professionalism is pathetic.

You are behaving like a child quite frankly, and if you are the COO for Paymium, that says a lot about the company.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 1000
April 16, 2013, 06:42:24 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad

Your question was not ignored: it was answered before you asked.
I appreciate the fact that this thread is spammed by 2 or 3 trolls who lack the most basic respect to other claimants and to me (they presume me guilty until proven innocent) by posting dozens of posts.

However I recommend that you read my posts before asking:

Quote
After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded.

If claims are filed by someone who has had access to our database and we refund claims immediately, what do we do when the legitimate owner comes along with his claim perhaps a week later ?
By any standard, 90 days is a reasonable time frame for most instawallet owners to retrieve their urls and submit their claims in due time.


Hi Boussac. I hope you are not counting me as one of the trolls.  Huh

If you are not going to give us the police report number can you at least give us a reason why you will not give it to us?

This might help us understand your situation.
legendary
Activity: 1221
Merit: 1025
e-ducat.fr
April 16, 2013, 06:17:04 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad

Your question was not ignored: it was answered before you asked.
I appreciate the fact that this thread is spammed by 2 or 3 trolls who lack the most basic respect to other claimants and to me (they presume me guilty until proven innocent) by posting dozens of posts.

However I recommend that you read my posts before asking:

Quote
After 90 days, if no other claim has been received for the same url, your Instawallet balance under 50 BTC will be refunded.

If claims are filed by someone who has had access to our database and we refund claims immediately, what do we do when the legitimate owner comes along with his claim perhaps a week later ?
By any standard, 90 days is a reasonable time frame for most instawallet owners to retrieve their urls and submit their claims in due time.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
April 16, 2013, 05:05:11 AM
I can't understand why is this taking so long. I only had one wallet with less than 20 BTC in it. I provided them with my personal gmail and bitcointalk forum nick.

There should be absolutly no doubt that I am a legitemate owner of those BTC. I understand that it has been less than a week since the claim process started but three months is way too long to wait.

Value is crashing and at this point of view the BTC could be worth next to nothing after three months of waiting...
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
April 16, 2013, 04:52:31 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad

Because that is how they treat the customers.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
April 16, 2013, 04:51:09 AM
Is the July 1st the earliest possible date to get our funds back or is it the date for last claimer to get his/her funds back?

In other words, if I made the claim in first 24 hours of the process starting, when will my coins be refunded?

English is not my first language, so the questons may be little strangly formed.

Why was my simple question beeing ignored Sad
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
April 16, 2013, 12:22:49 AM
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Now, even with a sore butt, I'm still able to ask for the umpteenth time: What is the police report number?

Dude!  give it up already.  You are clearly beating a dead horse here.   Honoré de Ballsack is obviously going to ignore this question and many others and hope that he can buy enough time to make a clean escape.


I wonder if he'll give us the police report number before I see his ass in San Jose.
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
April 15, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
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Now, even with a sore butt, I'm still able to ask for the umpteenth time: What is the police report number?

Dude!  give it up already.  You are clearly beating a dead horse here.   Honoré de Ballsack is obviously going to ignore this question and many others and hope that he can buy enough time to make a clean escape.

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