Topic: Institute threadcrap fine/sticky for Marketplace & child boards (Read 1602 times)

Not cool, guys. I want my money.

PMing is only slightly more difficult than clicking reply (assuming you don't have Quick Reply on by default), you just have to add a title. But I guess if you are M...

LOLWUT That said it would be nice if people posted some critique though I'm updating the website now and getting everything fixed up.

In 3pt font: "Just kidding."

Deleted my own reply after screenshot taken.

I don't have a problem in the marketplace of people posting in my thread ^_^ .......

Sigh, I guess I can accept that definition of competing offers. But shouldn't I be talking to malevolent? I'm only getting threadcrap in "his/her" subforums these days, not Currency Exchange.

Some recent illegitimate criticisms/craps, IIRC:

Crap: Claiming someone else made a better artistic choice than me, when everyone can play my free sample, form an opinion themselves, and move on... (but not actually putting the other thing down as a competing offer, because it wasn't/isn't for sale and no link to it was provided.)

Crap: Claiming my prices are too high (even though I research fair market values and match or undercut them, and am advised by experts directly in some cases) but not actually wanting to negotiate or give any counteroffer, just bitch

Crap: Claiming the piano I'm advertising on behalf of the non-profit I registered for BitPay and BitPremier isn't actually being sold by a non-profit and I'm committing fraud (added EIN to the topic after that, after sufficiently proving to BP & BP their non-profit status and getting fee adjustments months before)

Crap: Saying my pictures of pinback buttons with glarey vinyl covers are bad (I know that, but I can't afford to rent or buy a DSLR on spec over $1.50 items; a DSLR would cost about as much as my single most expensive personal item for sale by far, and exceed my limited homemaking income for an entire year, nor can I find anyone who wants to trade a new DSLR for said item)

Crap: Asking questions already clearly answered in the OP

competing offers count as off topic. so what's the other half of the "threadcrap" that you received? legitimate criticisms of your product/service?

There! Easy button.

Please start your own topic about how you think/can demonstrate the mods (synonymous with owner/admin/staff, in my mind) are derelict in moderation, or link me to your one that's already been up for a while.

Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

They don't need to investigate anything, you do when you make the report. PM the OP, if they're unrepentant, link your evidence to the mods, and those clear-cut violations you just described would result in the scam being shut down on any decent forum. But if you have a problem with the mods, then you should have just said "bitcointalk is nothing but chaos with a fake veneer of moderation, so just give up at suggesting improvements" and saved yourself the time of typing all the rest up.

About half of all threadcrap I've received, IIRC, has also advertised competing offerings.

You do realize that mods don't even delete scams, and it's probably not their job to investigate claims of marketplace scamming?

My opinion is that having open discussion of a product being sold or a service being offered is fine as long as it's not just an advertisement for your own competing offering.

SMH...

I don't think that's appropriate. I can give you a lot of examples:

* Material misrepresentations: You're selling a laptop and you say it has a 2.4 GHz processor, when in reality it only has a 1.8 GHz
* Logistics issues: You offer something recommended as a Christmas gift when there's no chance of something arriving by Christmas Eve
* Same product: You resell an ebook and someone who had bought the ebook before says it's crap.
* Scam alerts: Your pictures turn up in a google image search and is posted by another user.
* Lies by omission: You sell Randomaltcoins with no mention that the network is under a 51% attack for 3 months and the transaction probably won't confirm.

Etc etc. Instituting a threadcrap fine with your definition is a horrible idea. Anything negative to what? I think the forum already has a policy of not allowing your own advertisements, and I think that's ok.

Defined in my quote in the OP.

*anything negative without first transacting with me*

I was subtly asking how you define threadcrap, and how you define off-topic.

Depends on what your definition of threadcrap is. I have met sellers who consider any post that are negative towards their thread to be threadcrap.

Well, early results have "When you see a locked Marketplace topic" polling 6-2 in favor of "[I think] the offer is closed". So I can let the poll run longer, or a new solution to threadcrappers can be proposed and perhaps polled upon. In the meantime, I'll just lock my topics and put "(offer open, ignore lock)" in the titles.

Yeah, I've seen enough people who treat the Non-Aggression Principle like toilet paper, like FirstAscent, to know this forum is thoroughly infiltrated by those who would just as soon celebrate Bitcoin being banned by all governments with summary execution, because it doesn't fund aggression if the owner of the BTC doesn't want it to.

Threadcrapping is banned on most forums. But This is Bitcointalk.org where freedom is enjoyed by everyone.  

Yes; this is the normal behavior of a person whose request has been fulfilled and does not want to waste anyone's time who might be interested in a job or offer that has already passed, so there's a high chance it would defer potential viewers.

Don't people see locked threads as "offer closed"? Poll added.