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Topic: Insulting another member = BAN ? Good rule, no? (Read 2117 times)

member
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So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub....

*gasp* the hate speech!

Believe it or not, I have actually been banned from a forum for that joke (along with all the "dead-baby" cracks)

Off-topic: What's the joke about "So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub" ? Based on Bitcoin Porn's reference to Mexicans, is "OUT" a nasty insult in the Mexican language?


Irish are all slavering drunks of course. 

Many jokes start with "so a [insert type here] walks into a pub..." 
newbie
Activity: 42
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So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub....

*gasp* the hate speech!

Believe it or not, I have actually been banned from a forum for that joke (along with all the "dead-baby" cracks)

Off-topic: What's the joke about "So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub" ? Based on Bitcoin Porn's reference to Mexicans, is "OUT" a nasty insult in the Mexican language?
member
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Merit: 10
can we see the score sheet?

with a few hours of work I could bait every troll in this place.
I'm a Master Baiter. xD

I've already identified at least a dozen in the past 2 days.
All I have to do is put the screws to them.

Some are long trollers, those are the hard ones, those guys always operate just below the threshold.
I know how these guys think, how they move, they work on the premise of sinking ships, through sheer determination, all the while greatly enjoying what they are able to get away with and what they cause. they always have the last laugh, not only because they get to watch the show they direct but also because they just don't stop until everyone is gone.

I have a very distinct method on how to ghost them.
hero member
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Insults also raise a user's "troll score", though they are likewise allowed for non-trolls when on-topic.

I am super satisfied with this.  Though it is unsaid, built up retarded insults do = ban.  It's all I want to know.  I guess now it's effort on my part if it invades the threads I am reading.
hero member
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So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub....

*gasp* the hate speech!

Believe it or not, I have actually been banned from a forum for that joke (along with all the "dead-baby" cracks)

I have had associates online thrown out for less.   Is it the fault of California that there is a large population of Mexican people.

I think there is a big line between defining races and hate speech though lol.
member
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I will say though, cultural, social, and religious context type humor that is directed at no specific person, but rather groups..   wouldn't that already be something not showing up here.  Isn't that some kind of hate speech depending on the group?

Thinking of this thread in that way, would it be okay for someone to have some kind of Anti-Jew movement for Bitcoin on the forums protected by their free speech?  Whatever it is people tend to think "free speech" is on a private forum anyways lol.

If hate speech does or does not work for groups, why or why not the same for individuals protection?   Insulting directly is the ultimate hate speech.
 


So an Irishman walks OUT of a pub....

*gasp* the hate speech!

Believe it or not, I have actually been banned from a forum for that joke (along with all the "dead-baby" cracks)
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
I never hashed for this...
Hey, it could happen.

Easily too.

You want everyone to use that 'report to moderator' button, I assure you it will be used.

I fucking loooooooooooove trolls, but a good intelligent troll that can fuck with people.  The ones that are "you are a fookin morran duchhe" can be done away with easily, and should be.

Opinions should not be censored when in discussion on the topic of Bitcoin.  Not against members of the forum at all.  Scammers or not, no one needs to be name called on the god damn internet.  Seriously, what the fuck.  Damn children!

My suggestion, tattle telling Smiley

(Irony of last sentence on purpose, makes this post no less true)

This is a bad idea, and bad ideas deserve to be insulted.

Therefore, if you ban insults, bad ideas will drown out the good ones.
administrator
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Thinking of this thread in that way, would it be okay for someone to have some kind of Anti-Jew movement for Bitcoin on the forums protected by their free speech?  Whatever it is people tend to think "free speech" is on a private forum anyways lol.

It depends on who posts it and how well-argued the post is. A topic like that would be a strong indicator that the poster is here just to troll and make the community look bad. The poster would probably be banned, and the topic might be removed. However, all legal discussion is allowed from non-trolls.

Insults also raise a user's "troll score", though they are likewise allowed for non-trolls when on-topic.
legendary
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Thinking of this thread in that way, would it be okay for someone to have some kind of Anti-Jew movement for Bitcoin on the forums protected by their free speech?
It very well might be okay, as long as it's on-topic and not illegal (i.e. calling for murder). That said, if I saw something like that, I'd at least pass it up to theymos for additional review. (There's an unofficial rule to remove anything that makes the forum look bad, but it's discouraged for normal mods to enforce that)
member
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bitcoinporn why don't you update your porn blog more and worry less about forum regulations

seriously you've had only one new .gif/image in the past few days
sr. member
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What's up with the banning idea? You're anarcho capitalists, right? Let the market handle it. Buy them out.  Grin
I'm sure if the market is free enough problems will solve themselves.  Kiss
hero member
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It should also depend on the context. A remark, which might be intended as a joke, can be quite offensive to a person yet another might see nothing wrong with it. Especially when people hardly know who the other person is, it's quite possible to come across as insulting or offensive due to cultural/social/religious context without really meaning to.
I can't wait for those specific situations to show themselves and watch and people try and insult people in the most round about way possible.  But hell, that is fine, that will be clever and creative and fun for all.  The "idiot" remarks tend to come from a level of person who can only think of a great insult such as 'idiot!'

I will say though, cultural, social, and religious context type humor that is directed at no specific person, but rather groups..   wouldn't that already be something not showing up here.  Isn't that some kind of hate speech depending on the group?

Thinking of this thread in that way, would it be okay for someone to have some kind of Anti-Jew movement for Bitcoin on the forums protected by their free speech?  Whatever it is people tend to think "free speech" is on a private forum anyways lol.

If hate speech does or does not work for groups, why or why not the same for individuals protection?   Insulting directly is the ultimate hate speech.

Also it is retarded and is holding back any progressive discussion.  I would love to hear someone argue this statement.
newbie
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I think it should highly depend on the severity of the insult.

Please explain.  I would like to know what constitutes as an insult that is ever "okay"

When are you making a point, discussing Bitcoin, is it possible that an insult needs to come into play.  Hell, I think you can have a very strong opinion on another person that is very negative, and say that without directly or intentionally insulting.

It should also depend on the context. A remark, which might be intended as a joke, can be quite offensive to a person yet another might see nothing wrong with it. Especially when people hardly know who the other person is, it's quite possible to come across as insulting or offensive due to cultural/social/religious context without really meaning to.
hero member
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I think it should highly depend on the severity of the insult.

Please explain.  I would like to know what constitutes as an insult that is ever "okay"

When are you making a point, discussing Bitcoin, is it possible that an insult needs to come into play.  Hell, I think you can have a very strong opinion on another person that is very negative, and say that without directly or intentionally insulting.
newbie
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I think it should highly depend on the severity of the insult.
legendary
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Keep it real
People who spouse backseat modding hiding behind the guise of "the rules" to promote a world view of censorship and snitching cause far more damage than all the trolls calling someone names put together ever will. No one is forcing you to read or acknowledge their comments.

I believe the word you were looking for there is spout, not spouse.

And there does need to be some moderation against people who insult/troll constantly.  This is the biggest bitcoin forum, and new people will find it.  Do you want them to immediately see threads full of crap and get turned off of bitcoin because of that?
hero member
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People who spouse backseat modding hiding behind the guise of "the rules" to promote a world view of censorship and snitching cause far more damage than all the trolls calling someone names put together ever will. No one is forcing you to read or acknowledge their comments.

Exactly.

So when can we put these rules in place Cheesy
member
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The day to rise has come.
There's this crazy thing called "block user"
Where can i find that?
member
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People who spouse backseat modding hiding behind the guise of "the rules" to promote a world view of censorship and snitching cause far more damage than all the trolls calling someone names put together ever will. No one is forcing you to read or acknowledge their comments.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
There's this crazy thing called "block user"

Moderate yourselves folks, you don't have to keep reading bullshit you don't want to, and you don't have to outsource the task to a "moderator".  Folks have better things to do than babysit us, ya dig?
Good idea, let's also take out the report to moderator button and have no rules lol

I am worried more so about the look of the board and it's future, especially now being detached from the official site.   I mean, honestly, these forums are about dead now with no 'official' home (bitcointalk.org who?) , so I guess the theory of "fuck it, deal with it yourself" is a decent attitude.  I dig.

A forum is usually as dead as its members allow it to be. Last I look, this forum is still quite active. Just because it doesn't have a front page with nice graphics and introductory text of some sort doesn't mean it has to be dead you know.
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