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Topic: Intelligence Operatives. Are they here? Make the case. - page 2. (Read 3884 times)

legendary
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I must admit it would have been funnier further up the thread.

Thread was still calling for it though.
legendary
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Humour, lads, it's humour! Cheesy


If its actually funny, than it went way of my head Cheesy.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
Humour, lads, it's humour! Cheesy
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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little libertarian neckbeard? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Armchair Economics, and I’ve been involved in numerous mining pools of altcoins, and I have over 300 confirmed scams. I am trained in detecting government shills and I’m the top parking-lot scammer on localbitcoins. You are nothing to me but just another conspiratard. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, aspy. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of overweight and disabled introverts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can mine you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my cheeto-dusted hands. Not only am I extensively trained in scamming people with fake currency, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the MTGox Relief Effort (which contains cases of Mountain Dew: Code Red) and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn shill. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
legendary
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little libertarian neckbeard? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Armchair Economics, and I’ve been involved in numerous mining pools of altcoins, and I have over 300 confirmed scams. I am trained in detecting government shills and I’m the top parking-lot scammer on localbitcoins. You are nothing to me but just another conspiratard. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, aspy. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of overweight and disabled introverts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can mine you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my cheeto-dusted hands. Not only am I extensively trained in scamming people with fake currency, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the MTGox Relief Effort (which contains cases of Mountain Dew: Code Red) and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn shill. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

I don't get it.
legendary
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little libertarian neckbeard? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Armchair Economics, and I’ve been involved in numerous mining pools of altcoins, and I have over 300 confirmed scams. I am trained in detecting government shills and I’m the top parking-lot scammer on localbitcoins. You are nothing to me but just another conspiratard. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, aspy. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of overweight and disabled introverts across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can mine you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my cheeto-dusted hands. Not only am I extensively trained in scamming people with fake currency, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the MTGox Relief Effort (which contains cases of Mountain Dew: Code Red) and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn shill. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
legendary
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""Propagandists Use Automated Software to Spread Disinformation"

In 2013, the American Congress repealed the formal ban against the deployment of propaganda against U.S. citizens living on American soil. So there’s even less to constrain propaganda than before.

Information warfare for propaganda purposes also includes:

    The Pentagon, Federal Reserve and other government entities using software to track discussion of political issues … to try to nip dissent in the bud before it goes viral

    “Controlling, infiltrating, manipulating and warping” online discourse

    Use of artificial intelligence programs to try to predict how people will react to propaganda"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/propagandists-use-automated-software-spread-disinformation

Lots of links in this article.


Sometimes ill be having a "discussion" with people and it really feels like they are failing the turing test.
In recent years, me too. In person.  Angry
legendary
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I'd suspect yes simply because of the null hypothesis.  Wikileaks was important enough to lean heavily on the banks, so it would be surprising to me if Bitcoin did not open some eyes by at least that time.

As for actual participation in the chatter, I would not be very confident of this.  Possibly they have some people on the payroll to do actual projects (a-la the media, mainstream and now otherwise, which is reputed to be and seems to be highly infiltrated) and such people may participate here as a function of the work they are doing.  I keep my eyes open for people who might fit this description and have some mild suspicions from time to time, but nothing at all concrete.

legendary
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""Propagandists Use Automated Software to Spread Disinformation"

In 2013, the American Congress repealed the formal ban against the deployment of propaganda against U.S. citizens living on American soil. So there’s even less to constrain propaganda than before.

Information warfare for propaganda purposes also includes:

    The Pentagon, Federal Reserve and other government entities using software to track discussion of political issues … to try to nip dissent in the bud before it goes viral

    “Controlling, infiltrating, manipulating and warping” online discourse

    Use of artificial intelligence programs to try to predict how people will react to propaganda"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/propagandists-use-automated-software-spread-disinformation

Lots of links in this article.


Sometimes ill be having a "discussion" with people and it really feels like they are failing the turing test.
hero member
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""Propagandists Use Automated Software to Spread Disinformation"

In 2013, the American Congress repealed the formal ban against the deployment of propaganda against U.S. citizens living on American soil. So there’s even less to constrain propaganda than before.

Information warfare for propaganda purposes also includes:

    The Pentagon, Federal Reserve and other government entities using software to track discussion of political issues … to try to nip dissent in the bud before it goes viral

    “Controlling, infiltrating, manipulating and warping” online discourse

    Use of artificial intelligence programs to try to predict how people will react to propaganda"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/propagandists-use-automated-software-spread-disinformation

Lots of links in this article.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
it's the second oldest profession.  of course they are here.  it's foolish to suppose they aren't

I find it interesting how receptive this community is to these ideas. Not one person has come forward yet to call me a kook for even asking the question.


Maybe some of us believe bitcoin (its mankind paradigm shift ideal, not just BTCBTCBTCBTC) is the greater good for the future, no matter our political and religious views, now. Most of us have very passionate debates about a lot of stuff. If they come after us because of our speech then it is over, not just for this forum... You forget one thing: the tool you are using to post on this forum might already be compromised. Remember to talk and speak here the way you would in normal life and you should be fine, perhaps  Wink




Agreed. I think everyone adopts a mask to some extent in public interaction, via fora or in real life, but it don't have to be much of one. Y'all of course can only see the dimension a person presents on here, but I try to be who I am to the extent possible in text Cheesy
legendary
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it's the second oldest profession.  of course they are here.  it's foolish to suppose they aren't

I find it interesting how receptive this community is to these ideas. Not one person has come forward yet to call me a kook for even asking the question.


Maybe some of us believe bitcoin (its mankind paradigm shift ideal, not just BTCBTCBTCBTC) is the greater good for the future, no matter our political and religious views, now. Most of us have very passionate debates about a lot of stuff. If they come after us because of our speech then it is over, not just for this forum... You forget one thing: the tool you are using to post on this forum might already be compromised. Remember to talk and speak here the way you would in normal life and you should be fine, perhaps  Wink



legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
I can't recall who famously said it, but it holds true. If you aren't paranoid, you're not paying attention. The idea of a government by, of, and for the people is a noble sentiment. It's also a contradiction of reality, as rulers are never held accountable by the ruled in any meainingful manner until a revolution washes them away... and then some of them usually manage to grab the rei(g)ns again to continue looting and pillaging in a systematic and careful manner, learning where the last group crossed the line too far. And they have the same tools we do, the nets, surveillance, intel/counterintel, and a whole lot of immunity granted under color of law to go with it.

If I can't control my paranoia and blow somebody's head off, I get charged with murder. If a cop does it, he gets two weeks vacation, coddlinggrief counseling, and a hero's welcome by gullible sheep who deserve to be sheared. The net has shown a spotlight on this, and people STILL don't get it.

But they will, sooner or later. No empire has ever failed to devour itself. It's the nature of the beast.

Preaching to the choir brother. I'm an anarchist myself.

I had assumed as much Tongue But debate is as much for the audience as the participants if the goal is finding truth.

I'll catch up later. Had a very long day and I fear I'll stop making any sense if I keep typing Cheesy
legendary
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I can't recall who famously said it, but it holds true. If you aren't paranoid, you're not paying attention. The idea of a government by, of, and for the people is a noble sentiment. It's also a contradiction of reality, as rulers are never held accountable by the ruled in any meainingful manner until a revolution washes them away... and then some of them usually manage to grab the rei(g)ns again to continue looting and pillaging in a systematic and careful manner, learning where the last group crossed the line too far. And they have the same tools we do, the nets, surveillance, intel/counterintel, and a whole lot of immunity granted under color of law to go with it.

If I can't control my paranoia and blow somebody's head off, I get charged with murder. If a cop does it, he gets two weeks vacation, coddlinggrief counseling, and a hero's welcome by gullible sheep who deserve to be sheared. The net has shown a spotlight on this, and people STILL don't get it.

But they will, sooner or later. No empire has ever failed to devour itself. It's the nature of the beast.

Preaching to the choir brother. I'm an anarchist myself.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
it's the second oldest profession.  of course they are here.  it's foolish to suppose they aren't

I find it interesting how receptive this community is to these ideas. Not one person has come forward yet to call me a kook for even asking the question.

I can't recall who famously said it, but it holds true. If you aren't paranoid, you're not paying attention. The idea of a government by, of, and for the people is a noble sentiment. It's also a contradiction of reality, as rulers are never held accountable by the ruled in any meainingful manner until a revolution washes them away... and then some of them usually manage to grab the rei(g)ns again to continue looting and pillaging in a systematic and careful manner, learning where the last group crossed the line too far. And they have the same tools we do, the nets, surveillance, intel/counterintel, and a whole lot of immunity granted under color of law to go with it.

If I can't control my paranoia and blow somebody's head off, I get charged with murder. If a cop does it, he gets two weeks vacation, coddlinggrief counseling, and a hero's welcome by gullible sheep who deserve to be sheared. The net has shown a spotlight on this, and people STILL don't get it.

But they will, sooner or later. No empire has ever failed to devour itself. It's the nature of the beast.
legendary
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it's the second oldest profession.  of course they are here.  it's foolish to suppose they aren't

I find it interesting how receptive this community is to these ideas. Not one person has come forward yet to call me a kook for even asking the question.
legendary
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it's the second oldest profession.  of course they are here.  it's foolish to suppose they aren't
legendary
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I have been on several forums on which several individuals freely admitted they were from such and such a government department.  No big deal, they were highly knowledable in the subject matters.  Certainly this would be the case on crypto forums and several others.  Also a firearms forum, most of the people there  were LEO, glocktalk.

But here the subject is active control or distorsion by underhanded methods.  Yes that could be occurring but a simple question -

Why would this be "CounterIntelligence?"  It would be the simple operation of intelligence gathering.  Counterintelligence would be when someone in "that organization" was working for "us", in so many words.  Am I missing something?


Perhaps I am misunderstanding the meaning of this term. I was under the impression the infiltrating a group in order to promote discord, for example, would fall under the scope of that definition. Looking up definitions from several sources though would seem to indicate that it would not. What would you propose that I title this thread instead?
Fat Ass Lazy Government Slugs that want to Disrupt Internet forums Instead of Getting a Real Job?  Lol, I don't know, given that the activity/actions/objectionable trolling could be from a multiplicity of sources.

I don't know if you are interested but i managed to track down the source of my confusion. It came from my familiarity with Operation COINTELPRO. Which i believe stands for counter intelligence program. So i was making the false assumption that counter intelligence professionals were people who were paid to  "survey, infiltrate, discredit, and disrupt domestic political organizations", as per the stated agenda of that program.
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What they don't want you to know will be censored.

Science of Shill Article on disinfo.com
legendary
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I have been on several forums on which several individuals freely admitted they were from such and such a government department.  No big deal, they were highly knowledable in the subject matters.  Certainly this would be the case on crypto forums and several others.  Also a firearms forum, most of the people there  were LEO, glocktalk.

But here the subject is active control or distorsion by underhanded methods.  Yes that could be occurring but a simple question -

Why would this be "CounterIntelligence?"  It would be the simple operation of intelligence gathering.  Counterintelligence would be when someone in "that organization" was working for "us", in so many words.  Am I missing something?


Perhaps I am misunderstanding the meaning of this term. I was under the impression the infiltrating a group in order to promote discord, for example, would fall under the scope of that definition. Looking up definitions from several sources though would seem to indicate that it would not. What would you propose that I title this thread instead?
Fat Ass Lazy Government Slugs that want to Disrupt Internet forums Instead of Getting a Real Job?  Lol, I don't know, given that the activity/actions/objectionable trolling could be from a multiplicity of sources.
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