[INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 - page 2.

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Quote from: Frank AlpenCoin on September 27, 2023, 01:13:43 AM

Thanks for all your interesting ideas...
It must be fun...

I will do 40 coins at least. If we have less than 40 interested people, I or mj will keep the coins in a vault... or auction them later.

A generous forum member offers us these nice holo for the "Scam Coin" serie 2. Wink

Being able to access the original holos is another scam in itself. Makers generally guard their holos to the death.

mint yogg's goofy bearded face in glimmering .999.

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Quote from: Frank AlpenCoin on September 27, 2023, 01:13:43 AM

Thanks for all your interesting ideas...
It must be fun...

I will do 40 coins at least. If we have less than 40 interested people, I or mj will keep the coins in a vault... or auction them later.

A generous forum member offers us these nice holo for the "Scam Coin" serie 2. Wink

Lovely Skamkey holos....adds a nice touch to this Yogged coin being made Wink

Frank AlpenCoin

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Thanks for all your interesting ideas...
It must be fun...

I will do 40 coins at least. If we have less than 40 interested people, I or mj will keep the coins in a vault... or auction them later.

A generous forum member offers us these nice holo for the "Scam Coin" serie 2. Wink

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Quote from: Kryptowerk on September 26, 2023, 01:33:13 PM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 01:08:18 PM

the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.

the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

Regarding your fast & lucky idea with the yogg coins, maybe there is a way to use the timelock function to at a certain blockheight automatically transfer yogged coins' balances to the one winner (yogg) coin?

And in regards of SBF, yes he may have taken everyone's money but not everything of everyone’s money. Meaning people will receive back a (tiny) amount of their funds when the remaining crypto is shared with the accounts affected by the scam (with the help of an official liquidator). Which would have been perfectly reflected by a low load for rekt coins.

Anyway, I am in favor of creating a nice collectible instead of trying to stick to close to reality (which wasn’t the case anyway for the FTX coin as explained above) and therefore for all coins to have a tiny bit of load.

as for FTX - perhaps they will get something back - right after the mt gox payments get made. We all know how well that is going.
Right now though many have lost everything and got nothing back.

as for the timelocked - the issue I see is that everyone would be able to view the txn and see where the "sending" funds are coming from ie their wallets and then they simply empty the wallet (which is what yogg did with the timelocks he made)

I get that everyone has their preferences and all that and most would have the preference to keep their sats - totally agreed with and understood.

these are just a bit different from the normal is all.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 01:08:18 PM

the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.

the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

Regarding your fast & lucky idea with the yogg coins, maybe there is a way to use the timelock function to at a certain blockheight automatically transfer yogged coins' balances to the one winner (yogg) coin?

And in regards of SBF, yes he may have taken everyone's money but not everything of everyone’s money. Meaning people will receive back a (tiny) amount of their funds when the remaining crypto is shared with the accounts affected by the scam (with the help of an official liquidator). Which would have been perfectly reflected by a low load for rekt coins.

Anyway, I am in favor of creating a nice collectible instead of trying to stick to close to reality (which wasn’t the case anyway for the FTX coin as explained above) and therefore for all coins to have a tiny bit of load.

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Quote from: Suzuki Matt on September 25, 2023, 08:10:17 PM

Wow this thread is getting interesting. I like the first coin system. As far as the other one. It's a cool idea. I'm not against it. I think these coins shold be fun, not a buy and hodl it's a raffle/game. Let's have some fun with it. The coins can be rebuilt later. I'm sure the holos can be provided if needed. I just feel we are getting away from the whole point of these coins if we just buy and hold and no one peels. I understand the idea of if no one does we can think they are all loaded with 04 but that wasn't the point. The point was to have fun with it. Not saying I don't agree with the part of if we all hold it. But just saying this was started as a fun way to play with the scams that we all felt in some type of way and now it's getting away from that.

Just my opinion and no disrespect. I think rebuilding a coin destroys it. Its like doing touch up painting on the mona lisa, or cleaning an old coin, or refinishing antique furniture. 10 years from now this coin will be legend.

I agree but this was made to be a raffle. Not a long hodl. So I feel the same but these should be fun. Not like everything else.

Edit. I respect that but I will add. Not everything is meant to be 10 years later. I think we can have some fun.

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Quote from: Suzuki Matt on September 25, 2023, 08:10:17 PM

Wow this thread is getting interesting. I like the first coin system. As far as the other one. It's a cool idea. I'm not against it. I think these coins shold be fun, not a buy and hodl it's a raffle/game. Let's have some fun with it. The coins can be rebuilt later. I'm sure the holos can be provided if needed. I just feel we are getting away from the whole point of these coins if we just buy and hold and no one peels. I understand the idea of if no one does we can think they are all loaded with 04 but that wasn't the point. The point was to have fun with it. Not saying I don't agree with the part of if we all hold it. But just saying this was started as a fun way to play with the scams that we all felt in some type of way and now it's getting away from that.

Just my opinion and no disrespect. I think rebuilding a coin destroys it. Its like doing touch up painting on the mona lisa, or cleaning an old coin, or refinishing antique furniture. 10 years from now this coin will be legend.

Suzuki Matt

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Wow this thread is getting interesting. I like the first coin system. As far as the other one. It's a cool idea. I'm not against it. I think these coins shold be fun, not a buy and hodl it's a raffle/game. Let's have some fun with it. The coins can be rebuilt later. I'm sure the holos can be provided if needed. I just feel we are getting away from the whole point of these coins if we just buy and hold and no one peels. I understand the idea of if no one does we can think they are all loaded with 04 but that wasn't the point. The point was to have fun with it. Not saying I don't agree with the part of if we all hold it. But just saying this was started as a fun way to play with the scams that we all felt in some type of way and now it's getting away from that.

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Quote from: YodasRedRocket on September 25, 2023, 02:03:18 PM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 01:08:18 PM

the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.

the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

The idea of lucky & fast enough to save your funds wouldn’t be fair bc someone in Europe for example may be waiting an extra week to receive their coin.

well to be fair, it should not be started until everyone has their coins of course.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 01:08:18 PM

the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.

the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

The idea of lucky & fast enough to save your funds wouldn’t be fair bc someone in Europe for example may be waiting an extra week to receive their coin.

MoparMiningLLC

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the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.

the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

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To make it a real Yogg maker should sweep the loaded one Cheesy

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   My preference would be as pinky stated ALL Rekk Coin with tiny amount such as .001 example . & one Lucky basta(F-yogg)ejee with get Greater amount on just on 1 Coin. Can be same amount as the Rekk coin .04 BTC Wink

   But at the end of the day Frank decides and whatever he decides I will go with as these coin series are an important part of our collectable history and thus I will be a buyer till the end......and of course I was a victim as well so its personal as well.

  I would hope there will be other coins down the line as there were plenty other coin makers that have fucked good people as well.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/info-breached-or-scam-coin-makers-list-3315347

   Cheers and and thanks again for taking this task Frank

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 10:40:15 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 10:26:49 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 10:02:20 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:59:30 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments. This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

agreed - Frank does have the final say.

And no one is commandeering the coin.

I never said anyone was commandeering the coin but rather the ensuring against such.

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Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 10:26:49 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 10:02:20 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:59:30 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments. This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

agreed - Frank does have the final say.

And no one is commandeering the coin.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 10:02:20 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:59:30 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments. This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

MoparMiningLLC

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Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:59:30 AM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on September 25, 2023, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

MoparMiningLLC

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Quote from: 2stout on September 25, 2023, 09:31:29 AM

I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

2stout

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I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats. I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt". I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

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