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Topic: Interest thread for Eliovp linux build for pandaminer - page 3. (Read 4138 times)

hero member
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I would possibly be interested in a group buy.  Put me down as a solid maybe.

Do they take BTC, or credit only?

I paid mine in BTC

Their site seems down? Sad
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
I would possibly be interested in a group buy.  Put me down as a solid maybe.

Do they take BTC, or credit only?

I paid mine in BTC
hero member
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Merit: 500
I would possibly be interested in a group buy.  Put me down as a solid maybe.

Do they take BTC, or credit only?
hero member
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Sadly I don''t think we would save anything since it appears that PM didn't pay anything for the OS, the drivers, or the miner software.  So essentially we are already getting it without the OS! LOL

The answer might be what Phil suggested about maybe setting up a group buy to get a discount.  That might help drive the cost down a little and help PM build some good will here on the forum.  

These companies have got to recognize the value these forums bring to them.  You build a good rep in a place like this and your future can be bright.  You burn bridges in a place like this then the word of mouth travels fast.

hero member
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Im interested but every other miner on the market is pretty much plug and play or cgminer why would any one spend over 2000 for a miner than you cant read the software than have to pay to get the software when the company who's building and selling these should ship it with a supported os

Sadly you can run the Pandaminer as is from the manufacturer.  An illegal copy of Windows, some copies of Claymore, and you are off and running.  However if you want optimized ROM's for the GPU's to get every ounce of performance out of them, some optimizations for an OS that isn't illegal, and possible future enhancements to make this "ASIC miner" simple... If the latter interests you then we should support our community and get the miner we want.  

There is a reason that people use Claymore's miners for example.  If you are sick and tired of downloading mining software, attempting to build it, only to find it needs this, then that, and the other thing.  Oh, you need to tweak this, configure that...  Oh, modify this while you are at it....  Oh and then pray to the miner gods that you finally have it all together....  Then still spend a significant amount of time tweaking it.  Well this is why people use Claymore's miner and pay him his fee.  Simple, out of the box it works.  You extract it, and run it.  The hardest part is just figuring out the 5 million switches and options for the command line! LOL  Better yet, because of the regular source of funding Claymore can work on this full time and his miners are some of the fastest because of it.  Sadly he does not support Linux very well.  So the benefits should be obvious to anyone who mines that funding is making things happen for miners.    

So nobody is forcing anyone to contribute to an effort like this.  If you want a faster, cooler, more power efficient PM that likely will be easier to manage when it is all said and done then jump on board and help get it done.  Grin  

Im on board and wanted to get one and what you said makes perfect sense maybe there could be a group buy with no os from panda to save a few dollars and pick option A or B from op
hero member
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Im interested but every other miner on the market is pretty much plug and play or cgminer why would any one spend over 2000 for a miner than you cant read the software than have to pay to get the software when the company who's building and selling these should ship it with a supported os

Sadly you can run the Pandaminer as is from the manufacturer.  An illegal copy of Windows, some copies of Claymore, and you are off and running.  However if you want optimized ROM's for the GPU's to get every ounce of performance out of them, some optimizations for an OS that isn't illegal, and possible future enhancements to make this "ASIC miner" simple... If the latter interests you then we should support our community and get the miner we want.  

There is a reason that people use Claymore's miners for example.  If you are sick and tired of downloading mining software, attempting to build it, only to find it needs this, then that, and the other thing.  Oh, you need to tweak this, configure that...  Oh, modify this while you are at it....  Oh and then pray to the miner gods that you finally have it all together....  Then still spend a significant amount of time tweaking it.  Well this is why people use Claymore's miner and pay him his fee.  Simple, out of the box it works.  You extract it, and run it.  The hardest part is just figuring out the 5 million switches and options for the command line! LOL  Better yet, because of the regular source of funding Claymore can work on this full time and his miners are some of the fastest because of it.  Sadly he does not support Linux very well.  So the benefits should be obvious to anyone who mines that funding is making things happen for miners.    

So nobody is forcing anyone to contribute to an effort like this.  If you want a faster, cooler, more power efficient PM that likely will be easier to manage when it is all said and done then jump on board and help get it done.  Grin  
hero member
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Im interested but every other miner on the market is pretty much plug and play or cgminer why would any one spend over 2000 for a miner than you cant read the software than have to pay to get the software when the company who's building and selling these should ship it with a supported os
hero member
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I'm interested but would like to know results of this if it improves upon performance and reliability.
full member
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CryptoLearner
yeah it is indeed very interesting, still the warranty that make me a bit wary, otherwise the hardware seems very sound and the software if improved, that could be awesome stuff for sure. I like the pics Smiley
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated Wink. Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  Wink


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous Wink


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..

Don't listen to haters,keep up the good work Cool

Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.

Same here, i think it's aimed to be a "packaged" solution, plug & play Smiley so if someone offer a better package, worked it out with his sweat, why he shouldn't be able to turn a few buck out of it ? that's our basic right. Again keep up the good work guys  Wink

and my point is it would be a one shot deal  since we all know someone will release for free to prevent a second donation thread.

I have given 1000's of of dollars away  for zero nothing on my difficulty prediction  threads.

If I have to I would give 500 usd to  Eliovp  for a full copy  to get him to do it for me.   And I would release it in time.

He built it works.  and like it or not this miner  will be competitive  with gpu rigs.  I want little people with 1 ,2, 3 rigs  in on the action.

I look down the road here    and once again  compare the 2 photos posted

six 4 card rigs



 1 eight card rig   which means the rack below can fit

six rigs and 3 psus  say  the    ibm 2880    using 48 cards  use only 6 ethernet cables 

the other way  2 racks   12 atx psus using 48 cards and 12 enternet cable

full member
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CryptoLearner

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated Wink. Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  Wink


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous Wink


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..

Don't listen to haters,keep up the good work Cool

Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.

Same here, i think it's aimed to be a "packaged" solution, plug & play Smiley so if someone offer a better package, worked it out with his sweat, why he shouldn't be able to turn a few buck out of it ? that's our basic right. Again keep up the good work guys  Wink
hero member
Activity: 868
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Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.
legendary
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Huh?

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated Wink. Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  Wink


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous Wink


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

for those that know how to fine and simple

for those that don't and fear a brick this is offered.

I am a gear head far more then a software guy.  and the idea of bricking my 2180 plus shipping miner loading 16.04 ubuntu into it is a bit frightening.

I would love for pandaminer to cut a deal and just install linux  or a linux option.

I have a lot of skills in life but linux builds  so far 1 and done..  I did 1 build for my  compac sticks 16 month ago.




For more transparency  here.

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB key is a fail for the following reason

They issue 1 key number with 10 to 500 or even more pc that can use the key.

If I own Pandaminer and buy a 600 pc Key   even pc has that key.  So unless I load every one of my 600 pc's then ship every one to the same guy I am subject to theft.  How is that.  lets say I load 400 pc's  my key has 200 left on it.

First thief to get one of the windows 10 Enterprise LTSB  simply lifts the key and loads the remaining 200 pc's   and pandaminer loses 200 of 600 pcs worth of windows 10 enterprise.

Contact windows and see if you can buy a 1 pc key for windows 10 enterprise LTSB.  If you can pleas buy 2 and sell one to me.


More transparency.  MY pandaminer  was sent without any payment  I agreed to pay pandaminer  a fair price for it.  (yet to be determined)

What does that mean  It means I have a little bit of leverage not a lot to try to get a better os for us.  

If you read the original thread carefully they are difficult to talk things out.

I could use someone really fluent in Chinese and English to help to talk to them.  I am not looking to make big money here  I don't expect much of anything .  What I would like is to get  the miner  sold and spread to smaller miners.  Ie  the 5kwatt or less guys  not the farms.


I will post a photo in ten minutes.

24 gpus and 6 mobos 6 psus



8 gpus 1 psu

Outlined for more clarity

so the rack of 24 would be an easy rack of 48

full member
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CryptoLearner
I will say I haven't bought a Pandaminer yet.  But at this point I wouldn't buy one unless I knew I had access to the custom Linux, and ROM's that Eliovp is building.  

I would like to see the Pandaminer be like an appliance.  A simple user interface the user just selects the coin to mine and forget about it.  Of course maybe a few bells and whistles later on for monitoring and that sort of thing. The beauty would be you buy it, you add the OS and ROM's, start it and no more messing around.  

I would also like to think that as updates come along and new features that make this more of an appliance happens that for a period of time the updates would be provided as part of the initial cost, but later on if you want the updates and enhancements it would be perfectly reasonable to charge for the updates.

You might add a 3rd option for those who want to stay with the Windows build which would be to sell just the ROM's for the cards.  

This is just coming from a "bystander" at the moment who is watching this with peaked interest.   Grin

Yup exactly my thoughts long', the hardware seems to be awesome, but there is much work to do on the software, with a custom linux release with modded roms, and let be crazy a web interface to manage the miners & such, you would have a winner Smiley
hero member
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[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work Smiley


This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is  Grin

At least you can try to contact them , Im sure they going to steal your hard work as soon as you made public.
I had no problem to communicating with them , they answered my email's within a day . You are offering them a "free optimized operation system" instead of that pirated windows 10 enterprise ...

Eliovp ! I have a question for you Smiley You are created custom rom's for those RX 480 mxm cards. Those rom's are optimized for ETH ? Zcash ? XMR?
I modded my own bioses for a lot of cards, optimized them for ETH mining , but what working fine for ETH , that not the best for zCash, what is the best for zcash , that not the greatest for XMR Smiley
Usually all my optimized, modded bios for ETH , performing worst than the original, factory bios on zcash.
hero member
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I will say I haven't bought a Pandaminer yet.  But at this point I wouldn't buy one unless I knew I had access to the custom Linux, and ROM's that Eliovp is building.  

I would like to see the Pandaminer be like an appliance.  A simple user interface the user just selects the coin to mine and forget about it.  Of course maybe a few bells and whistles later on for monitoring and that sort of thing. The beauty would be you buy it, you add the OS and ROM's, start it and no more messing around.  

I would also like to think that as updates come along and new features that make this more of an appliance happens that for a period of time the updates would be provided as part of the initial cost, but later on if you want the updates and enhancements it would be perfectly reasonable to charge for the updates.

You might add a 3rd option for those who want to stay with the Windows build which would be to sell just the ROM's for the cards.  

This is just coming from a "bystander" at the moment who is watching this with peaked interest.   Grin
legendary
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seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

If it was only that easy Smiley

Well, yeah, it is that easy, but there are no supported drivers for the NIC, which is a PCIe NIC.
If you boot the system, go into the bios of the main board, you'll see as first boot "windows boot loader",  not just the msata disk like in any other case.
So in other words, just installing ubuntu, yeah, perhaps  Wink
It wasn't "just" installing ubuntu when i first got it..

It has everything pre-configured, every single miner out there is on it ready to run with a perfectly optimized config for each algo out there.

Oh yeah, but that's already clear enough, modified roms, so not only copied straps but custom ones and of course VDDC offset added.

Greetings. Smiley


[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work Smiley


This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is  Grin

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.
legendary
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Huh?
seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

If it was only that easy Smiley

Well, yeah, it is that easy, but there are no supported drivers for the NIC, which is a PCIe NIC.
If you boot the system, go into the bios of the main board, you'll see as first boot "windows boot loader",  not just the msata disk like in any other case.
So in other words, just installing ubuntu, yeah, perhaps  Wink
It wasn't "just" installing ubuntu when i first got it..

It has everything pre-configured, every single miner out there is on it ready to run with a perfectly optimized config for each algo out there.

Oh yeah, but that's already clear enough, modified roms, so not only copied straps but custom ones and of course VDDC offset added.

Greetings. Smiley


[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work Smiley


This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is  Grin
sr. member
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[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work Smiley


This. Exactly my thought.
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