Topic: [Interviews] with crypto Collectors / Artists - page 2. (Read 1373 times)
I will take this interview. I'm a long standing collector/stacker
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark"
?]
In 2013 and had just purchased my first Bitcoins for $20 each using a convoluted way involving wiring money from PayPal to a game currency exchange, where I bought "second life" Linden Dollars which could be traded for BTC. I created my first wallet, and was afraid I would lose my private key/password (which I did, later...), so I used most of the BTC to purchase Casacius coins from Bittiraha in Finland, which I had delivered to my grandparents house and picked up some months later.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
When I purchased my first Bitcoins as an 18-year old arts student in 2013, I found the Bitcointalk.org forum to be intimidating with what seemed like high level programmer-talk. I used to collect coins as a child (I suppose I still do...), and so by collecting Casascius coins and posting about them, I felt I belonged in the Bitcoin community. I saw them as a tangible manifestation of the movement.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
I think that more and more people will be interested in collecting physical cryptocurrencies, and non-mass produced tokens made in the early days, which I would consider 2016 and earlier, will likely all be considered as valuable collectibles.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
It is very difficult to say- I think in all categories there will be some items which are valued and sought after, while others are forgotten and perhaps one day rediscovered.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
This is a small passion-based sector- don't take it too seriously and don't expect to make money.. but if you buy limited edition coins, especially those from the earlier years, you will have something very interesting to pass on to your children.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
I think that the coins by Cryptolator offer the most striking artistic image which reflects the spirit of the early years of the Bitcoin movement. On the face, "the people" using "chains" to pull down a burning bank as they walk towards Bitcoin, while bankers sit on its steps crying over bags of burning money- the image is very powerful and symbolic of the movement.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
The 500 BTC Casascius bar - Only one is known to have been made, and it has been peeled.
The funded 1000 BTC gold coin.
The first 1/1 3D printed "Bitcoin coin"
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
There are limited edition coins being made that can be purchased for under $50, so getting a collectible physical bitcoin is not out of reach for average people. When we speak of funded Casascius coins however, yes- they are the Rolexes of physical bitcoins.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
Many saw this coming, and for that reason only used a small portion of their BTC holdings to purchase collectibles. We should remember that this effect would likely work in reverse as well, however- if BTC had failed and gone to 0, the collectibles would still likely retain some value.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
It's pretty crazy to see items that used to trade for several bitcoins, now trade for fractions of a bitcoin, yet still being up in dollar terms. I wonder if the same will happen to NFT's- Imagine if a 100 ETH / $200,000 Bored Ape will trade for 10 ETH / $1,000,000 in the future- it does not seem impossible in our industry!
On that note, I consider funded physical bitcoins as the first blockchain proto-NFT's, as they were non-fungible objects recorded on the blockchain.
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
I'm inspired by how far the blockchain sector has gone from a single person and a single idea, to an entire ecosystem that is merging with the wider world. The intangibility and mystery-yet-security is a lasting theme.
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
A piece of art titled "blockchain tree" can be found in my book, Blockland. I feel it reflects the blockchain phenomenon.
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
Yes- I began as a collector and created a coin as a tribute to the others.
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
I think that there will be larger scale issuers of crypto-backed physical currency.
I think that crypto-themed art will be a part of the art world for a long time.
In 2013 and had just purchased my first Bitcoins for $20 each using a convoluted way involving wiring money from PayPal to a game currency exchange, where I bought "second life" Linden Dollars which could be traded for BTC. I created my first wallet, and was afraid I would lose my private key/password (which I did, later...), so I used most of the BTC to purchase Casacius coins from Bittiraha in Finland, which I had delivered to my grandparents house and picked up some months later.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
When I purchased my first Bitcoins as an 18-year old arts student in 2013, I found the Bitcointalk.org forum to be intimidating with what seemed like high level programmer-talk. I used to collect coins as a child (I suppose I still do...), and so by collecting Casascius coins and posting about them, I felt I belonged in the Bitcoin community. I saw them as a tangible manifestation of the movement.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
I think that more and more people will be interested in collecting physical cryptocurrencies, and non-mass produced tokens made in the early days, which I would consider 2016 and earlier, will likely all be considered as valuable collectibles.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
It is very difficult to say- I think in all categories there will be some items which are valued and sought after, while others are forgotten and perhaps one day rediscovered.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
This is a small passion-based sector- don't take it too seriously and don't expect to make money.. but if you buy limited edition coins, especially those from the earlier years, you will have something very interesting to pass on to your children.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
I think that the coins by Cryptolator offer the most striking artistic image which reflects the spirit of the early years of the Bitcoin movement. On the face, "the people" using "chains" to pull down a burning bank as they walk towards Bitcoin, while bankers sit on its steps crying over bags of burning money- the image is very powerful and symbolic of the movement.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
The 500 BTC Casascius bar - Only one is known to have been made, and it has been peeled.
The funded 1000 BTC gold coin.
The first 1/1 3D printed "Bitcoin coin"
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
There are limited edition coins being made that can be purchased for under $50, so getting a collectible physical bitcoin is not out of reach for average people. When we speak of funded Casascius coins however, yes- they are the Rolexes of physical bitcoins.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
Many saw this coming, and for that reason only used a small portion of their BTC holdings to purchase collectibles. We should remember that this effect would likely work in reverse as well, however- if BTC had failed and gone to 0, the collectibles would still likely retain some value.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
It's pretty crazy to see items that used to trade for several bitcoins, now trade for fractions of a bitcoin, yet still being up in dollar terms. I wonder if the same will happen to NFT's- Imagine if a 100 ETH / $200,000 Bored Ape will trade for 10 ETH / $1,000,000 in the future- it does not seem impossible in our industry!
On that note, I consider funded physical bitcoins as the first blockchain proto-NFT's, as they were non-fungible objects recorded on the blockchain.
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
I'm inspired by how far the blockchain sector has gone from a single person and a single idea, to an entire ecosystem that is merging with the wider world. The intangibility and mystery-yet-security is a lasting theme.
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
A piece of art titled "blockchain tree" can be found in my book, Blockland. I feel it reflects the blockchain phenomenon.
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
Yes- I began as a collector and created a coin as a tribute to the others.
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
I think that there will be larger scale issuers of crypto-backed physical currency.
I think that crypto-themed art will be a part of the art world for a long time.
Thanks as always for your answers and contents !
Generally speaking, I am pleased to read your opinions / answers to my questions whether they are optimistic or not ... on the other hand we cannot think in the same way
Generally speaking, I am pleased to read your opinions / answers to my questions whether they are optimistic or not ... on the other hand we cannot think in the same way
Thanks for bringing this up. Here are the answers to all of your questions:
I've bought my first crypto collectible in 2017. It was a white BTCC poker chip. Physical crypto coins' constant increase in price (especially the Casascius coins), triggered me to get into the world of crypto collectibles. After I've bought my first collectible, I felt the urge to accumulate more with the hopes of turning a profit in the future. I went from buying the BTCC poker chip, to buying a Satori poker chip and so on. I now have over 97 physical crypto items I've collected over the years. None of them have been sold yet. Crazy isn't it?
What I love about this sector is that you can always find something new and exciting made by talented people in the crypto community. I've seen many impressive collectibles ranging from art to physical crypto coins and bars.
What excites me the most about crypto collectibles is their link between the digital and analog world. They're the best of both worlds! (especially loaded physical coins, bars, and plastic/metal wallet cards).
I believe there's a lot of potential in crypto collectibles, especially those related to Bitcoin. The more popular crypto becomes, the more exposure physical crypto items will get. As BTC becomes scarce, demand for physical crypto coins will increase. I'd say physical crypto collectible are often better than NFTs (digital collectibles). But not everyone has the same tastes as me.
I think coins will have a greater interest in the future (especially loaded ones with BTC), as people seek to buy physical crypto as a sort of long-term investment (just like they do with gold bullion today). With increasing KYC measures, there will be a need to buy Bitcoin in a physical form (off-chain). And what better way than doing so by buying a loaded coin like a Lealana, Casascius, Satori, 1HODLCLUB, or BTCC Mint Poker Chip?
Don't invest into any crypto collectible just because someone else says it's "extremely rare" or "ultra rare" (usually happens on eBay). Always do your own research by asking questions on this forum and "digging" information about the coin maker/manufacturer, his/her past history and reputation, as well as, the mintage/production numbers of the crypto collectible you're willing to purchase. The "Collectibles" section of this very forum is a great place to start.
I think the crypto collectible that deserves more attention is the Squirrelbits coins by Liquidoptions. They have very limited mintage numbers, built with solid materials such as stainless steel or titanium. I have the Lucky Block set of 3 coins, and I couldn't be any happier with my purchase. Who knows if they become worth a fortune as BTC gains massive traction in the future?
A multi-currency physical crypto coin with the ability to load it with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and other altcoins at the same time. It would be like an "All-in-one" cold storage solution if you ask me.
You don't have to be rich to get started into the world of crypto collectibles. I've seen different collectibles being sold at different prices depending on their rarity, materials used, etc. Buying a new release with a low mintage/production number is a great way to turn a profit in the future. That is if you manage to snag one before they're sold out. If you start early, you'll increase your chances of becoming rich in the future.
Physical crypto collectibles will surely appreciate in USD, but not in Bitcoin. If you bought collectibles using Bitcoin, then I'd be best to sell them for Fiat (USD) to reap huge profits. You can then use the cash to buy more Bitcoin once it goes all the way down the drain. But if you just want to hoard collectibles like me without ever selling, that's fine too. As long as you don't put your life savings in collectibles, you'll have nothing to worry about.
Crypto collectibles definitely need more exposure. There are some collectibles selling on eBay, but most of them can be found here on this very forum. Collectible makers/manufacturers should ramp up their marketing/promotion efforts in order to help increase awareness. Who knows if the next bull market run will increase demand for physical crypto collectible items?
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark"?]
I've bought my first crypto collectible in 2017. It was a white BTCC poker chip. Physical crypto coins' constant increase in price (especially the Casascius coins), triggered me to get into the world of crypto collectibles. After I've bought my first collectible, I felt the urge to accumulate more with the hopes of turning a profit in the future. I went from buying the BTCC poker chip, to buying a Satori poker chip and so on. I now have over 97 physical crypto items I've collected over the years. None of them have been sold yet. Crazy isn't it?
2. What did you love about this sector?
What I love about this sector is that you can always find something new and exciting made by talented people in the crypto community. I've seen many impressive collectibles ranging from art to physical crypto coins and bars.
[What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
What excites me the most about crypto collectibles is their link between the digital and analog world. They're the best of both worlds! (especially loaded physical coins, bars, and plastic/metal wallet cards).
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
I believe there's a lot of potential in crypto collectibles, especially those related to Bitcoin. The more popular crypto becomes, the more exposure physical crypto items will get. As BTC becomes scarce, demand for physical crypto coins will increase. I'd say physical crypto collectible are often better than NFTs (digital collectibles). But not everyone has the same tastes as me.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
I think coins will have a greater interest in the future (especially loaded ones with BTC), as people seek to buy physical crypto as a sort of long-term investment (just like they do with gold bullion today). With increasing KYC measures, there will be a need to buy Bitcoin in a physical form (off-chain). And what better way than doing so by buying a loaded coin like a Lealana, Casascius, Satori, 1HODLCLUB, or BTCC Mint Poker Chip?
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
Don't invest into any crypto collectible just because someone else says it's "extremely rare" or "ultra rare" (usually happens on eBay). Always do your own research by asking questions on this forum and "digging" information about the coin maker/manufacturer, his/her past history and reputation, as well as, the mintage/production numbers of the crypto collectible you're willing to purchase. The "Collectibles" section of this very forum is a great place to start.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
I think the crypto collectible that deserves more attention is the Squirrelbits coins by Liquidoptions. They have very limited mintage numbers, built with solid materials such as stainless steel or titanium. I have the Lucky Block set of 3 coins, and I couldn't be any happier with my purchase. Who knows if they become worth a fortune as BTC gains massive traction in the future?
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
A multi-currency physical crypto coin with the ability to load it with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and other altcoins at the same time. It would be like an "All-in-one" cold storage solution if you ask me.
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
You don't have to be rich to get started into the world of crypto collectibles. I've seen different collectibles being sold at different prices depending on their rarity, materials used, etc. Buying a new release with a low mintage/production number is a great way to turn a profit in the future. That is if you manage to snag one before they're sold out. If you start early, you'll increase your chances of becoming rich in the future.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
Physical crypto collectibles will surely appreciate in USD, but not in Bitcoin. If you bought collectibles using Bitcoin, then I'd be best to sell them for Fiat (USD) to reap huge profits. You can then use the cash to buy more Bitcoin once it goes all the way down the drain. But if you just want to hoard collectibles like me without ever selling, that's fine too. As long as you don't put your life savings in collectibles, you'll have nothing to worry about.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Crypto collectibles definitely need more exposure. There are some collectibles selling on eBay, but most of them can be found here on this very forum. Collectible makers/manufacturers should ramp up their marketing/promotion efforts in order to help increase awareness. Who knows if the next bull market run will increase demand for physical crypto collectible items?
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7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin / crypto objects?
the most mysterious and unique object to collect IMHO is a copy of the white paper written by hand directly by Satoshi 
. Something unique and unimaginable ... unfortunately I think it doesn't exist, maybe just some notes on paper.
And of course it's something close to impossible to collect
It will always remain my hidden (collector) dream.
ok forget this "self question"
UP FOR INTERVIEWS!
Thanks as always your comments and content !
1. Somewhere around 2015, not sure, kialaras are attractive as hell by excellence
2. It mixes metals and cryptocurrencies, fiat is garbage what else could you want.
3. It's the only way to be safe in case one system fails you have the another, fiat doesn't count for anything but present spending.
4. Unless artistic/collectible value most certainly metal coins or ingots.
5. Take it easy, if you wait you can surely snag a good offer.
8. Definetly not, and things will be even more affordable and available in the future.
9. It is expected to not make up for the crypto pump itself, however, most metals did pump too. And at really long term, shouldn't really matter.
However, might want to think twice about it if you on a tight budget.
11. Lower the price of BTC stamped metals.
2. It mixes metals and cryptocurrencies, fiat is garbage what else could you want.
3. It's the only way to be safe in case one system fails you have the another, fiat doesn't count for anything but present spending.
4. Unless artistic/collectible value most certainly metal coins or ingots.
5. Take it easy, if you wait you can surely snag a good offer.
8. Definetly not, and things will be even more affordable and available in the future.
9. It is expected to not make up for the crypto pump itself, however, most metals did pump too. And at really long term, shouldn't really matter.
However, might want to think twice about it if you on a tight budget.
11. Lower the price of BTC stamped metals.
BUMP!
Interviews wanted!!!
I take this opportunity to sincerely thank all those who have shown interest and have decided to participate in this initiative.
I have read a series of really interesting ideas and unique suggestions for those who want to interface in this sector for the first time.
I hope to read more interviews in the coming days, don't be shy
Interviews wanted!!!
I take this opportunity to sincerely thank all those who have shown interest and have decided to participate in this initiative.
I have read a series of really interesting ideas and unique suggestions for those who want to interface in this sector for the first time.
I hope to read more interviews in the coming days, don't be shy
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark"
?]
Y2K is what actually alerted me to what money is and the problem we have in an inflationary system. I was buying gold and then USA coins. I was collecting and trading a lot of numismatics. Fast forward to an eventual curiosity with bitcoin. I saw the Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins and immediately recognized the scarcity of these coins. In 2019 I went online and was blown away that some of the original coins were actually available. My meager first purchase was a Satori and the Anonymous coins for about $45 for all four. That started it.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
Lots of creative expression; even the anti-bitcoins, like the 'Bullion not bits' coin, are cool. There is so much value packed into a single, small, circular hunk of metal : 1. Artistic expression. 2. A cause that expresses value (the cause is the adoption of bitcoin and the call for hard money). 3. In many cases there is precious metal value, 4. Bitcoin and other crypto loaded on them. 5. Scarcity. I was trading USA coins where billions of each coin are made. These physical bitcoins are super rare. It's crazy if you imagine 10,000 people actively collecting or 100,000. That's not that many people and the dominance BTC is going to have in people's lives in 5-10 years... wow. 6. Finally, The tech, meaning the wallet. hologram and public / private keys all are a mini lesson on how to hold your own bitcoin.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
The Encyclopedia established collecting physical bitcoins in a way that makes it accessible to all people. I think IGC and ANACS giving third party authentication makes it promising. ANACS quit, but now PCGS is starting to take physical bitcoins seriously and we're seeing mainstream auction houses like Stacks Bowers and others selling these. All of this is incredibly promising. So, if more people follow Elias Ahonen and third party institutions can both authenticate and sell these items, then I think it will expand and stay established. Counterfeiting is a concern. Creators up to no good with loaded coins is a real concern. These things could tarnish the growth.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
Pre-2016 loaded coins. All three are great (coins, art, stamps), but I think the coin will rule. Just look at the news. Any article leads with a picture of a physical bitcoin. My gripe, of course, is that most of these photos are usually cheap Chinese knock-offs, but still, the physical coin is a visual manifestation of the code and cryptography that resonates with people trying to get their head around bitcoin. I think many more people will want to own these and the original creators will hold value (Casascius, Lealana, Etc.)
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
1. Read Krogothmanhattan's thread Breached or Scam Creators' list
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/info-breached-or-scam-coin-makers-list-3315347
2. Buy the Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins and Cryptocurrencies (even though it is expensive).
3. If you want to buy physical bitcoins as an investment, buy the nicest quality coins you can afford. 1 gem quality coin is worth more than 2 or 3 good ones. If this hobby continues to scale, these coins are so scarce that eventually the quality is really going to matter.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
I like the Lealana .25 BTC Buyer funded black with Gold Hologram and laser edging on the hologram that I bought. However, I think Squirrel Bits coins need more attention and some of the monster quality coins Krogothmanhattan has made should be more well known as incredibly scarce, monster value coins.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
2011 Series 1 Casascius 1000 BTC Gold prototype coin. One of One and the one coin to rule them all. I suppose if Satoshi himself owned a great physical bitcoin with provable prominence, then that could be a runner-up. The CoinBull is probably third (just kidding!!!) I like that I have one but what a scam show this company seemed to be based on comments I have read https://www.reviews.io/company-reviews/store/coinbull.io
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
There are so many great collectibles available for under $200 or even under $100 (Buy 2 Nasty Mining 1 oz silver coins from Og and sell one on Ebay for 3x the amount. Then buy a Satori. I bought several great Casascius peeled coins for under $300 recently and great Lealana coins for less. 1Hodlclub coins were amazing value. Loaded and around $100 at the time.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
No investment has outperformed Bitcoin in the past decade and I doubt anything will in the near future. If your goal is 100% bitcoin investment then there is only downside. However, if you consider diversification, I see some BTC collectibles mixed in as an interesting option. I mainly invest in bitcoin, but have bought and sold a bunch of physical bitcoins now. If I add up gains in BTC versus selling physicals over the past year and a half, my % gain is higher in selling the physicals. Granted, my investment in coins is much smaller, but the % gain over the past year is better.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Does the Jose Rodriguez coin actually exist? Maybe
Y2K is what actually alerted me to what money is and the problem we have in an inflationary system. I was buying gold and then USA coins. I was collecting and trading a lot of numismatics. Fast forward to an eventual curiosity with bitcoin. I saw the Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins and immediately recognized the scarcity of these coins. In 2019 I went online and was blown away that some of the original coins were actually available. My meager first purchase was a Satori and the Anonymous coins for about $45 for all four. That started it.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
Lots of creative expression; even the anti-bitcoins, like the 'Bullion not bits' coin, are cool. There is so much value packed into a single, small, circular hunk of metal : 1. Artistic expression. 2. A cause that expresses value (the cause is the adoption of bitcoin and the call for hard money). 3. In many cases there is precious metal value, 4. Bitcoin and other crypto loaded on them. 5. Scarcity. I was trading USA coins where billions of each coin are made. These physical bitcoins are super rare. It's crazy if you imagine 10,000 people actively collecting or 100,000. That's not that many people and the dominance BTC is going to have in people's lives in 5-10 years... wow. 6. Finally, The tech, meaning the wallet. hologram and public / private keys all are a mini lesson on how to hold your own bitcoin.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
The Encyclopedia established collecting physical bitcoins in a way that makes it accessible to all people. I think IGC and ANACS giving third party authentication makes it promising. ANACS quit, but now PCGS is starting to take physical bitcoins seriously and we're seeing mainstream auction houses like Stacks Bowers and others selling these. All of this is incredibly promising. So, if more people follow Elias Ahonen and third party institutions can both authenticate and sell these items, then I think it will expand and stay established. Counterfeiting is a concern. Creators up to no good with loaded coins is a real concern. These things could tarnish the growth.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
Pre-2016 loaded coins. All three are great (coins, art, stamps), but I think the coin will rule. Just look at the news. Any article leads with a picture of a physical bitcoin. My gripe, of course, is that most of these photos are usually cheap Chinese knock-offs, but still, the physical coin is a visual manifestation of the code and cryptography that resonates with people trying to get their head around bitcoin. I think many more people will want to own these and the original creators will hold value (Casascius, Lealana, Etc.)
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
1. Read Krogothmanhattan's thread Breached or Scam Creators' list
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/info-breached-or-scam-coin-makers-list-3315347
2. Buy the Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins and Cryptocurrencies (even though it is expensive).
3. If you want to buy physical bitcoins as an investment, buy the nicest quality coins you can afford. 1 gem quality coin is worth more than 2 or 3 good ones. If this hobby continues to scale, these coins are so scarce that eventually the quality is really going to matter.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
I like the Lealana .25 BTC Buyer funded black with Gold Hologram and laser edging on the hologram that I bought. However, I think Squirrel Bits coins need more attention and some of the monster quality coins Krogothmanhattan has made should be more well known as incredibly scarce, monster value coins.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
2011 Series 1 Casascius 1000 BTC Gold prototype coin. One of One and the one coin to rule them all. I suppose if Satoshi himself owned a great physical bitcoin with provable prominence, then that could be a runner-up. The CoinBull is probably third (just kidding!!!) I like that I have one but what a scam show this company seemed to be based on comments I have read https://www.reviews.io/company-reviews/store/coinbull.io
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
There are so many great collectibles available for under $200 or even under $100 (Buy 2 Nasty Mining 1 oz silver coins from Og and sell one on Ebay for 3x the amount. Then buy a Satori. I bought several great Casascius peeled coins for under $300 recently and great Lealana coins for less. 1Hodlclub coins were amazing value. Loaded and around $100 at the time.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
No investment has outperformed Bitcoin in the past decade and I doubt anything will in the near future. If your goal is 100% bitcoin investment then there is only downside. However, if you consider diversification, I see some BTC collectibles mixed in as an interesting option. I mainly invest in bitcoin, but have bought and sold a bunch of physical bitcoins now. If I add up gains in BTC versus selling physicals over the past year and a half, my % gain is higher in selling the physicals. Granted, my investment in coins is much smaller, but the % gain over the past year is better.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Does the Jose Rodriguez coin actually exist? Maybe
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]
Seeing the Polymerbit Notes. I have always collected "Stuff", Notes, Coins, Magazines, Newspapers,
Pencils, Vinyl, Camera Film for example. I have never been able to afford items which I really wished for but it
never stopped me from admiring what was available. The Polymerbit Notes have been affordable and very
collectible so they were my first dive into this field.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
Well at the moent Bitcoin is my #1 interest, without a doubt. And like Bitcoin itself I think we are still
at the early stages of Crypto collectibles. There is a lot more to come and still the allure of collecting some
historical items of importance/interest.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
I actually dont know about this one, I thought I read somewhere a few years ago that Numismatic
ollecting was fading out with fewer younger people getting involved.
Crypto Collectibles could be a different story, I would like to think it will grow in the future. As regards high
quality original fine art Crypto artworks, I think they will always have a market
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
Everything, but the rarity of those will play a big part in what is collectible, Limited edition Coins from
creators with a big catalogue of items, Similar to what krogothmanhattan is doing with his new coin ideas and what
MrCryptHodl is doing with his/her series as examples.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
Dont know TBH
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
Currently - There are two I have purchased these so I have direct knowledge of them
willi9974's Limited to 21 customisable 30g coin still hasnt sold out, and Hhampuz's 2 coin set limited to
100 still hasnt sold out. In comparison to other new coin projects which sell out quite quckly I feel these
should deserve some more attention
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
Anything with a production of 1
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
Depends on how muc you have or how muc you want to spend, there are low
value/priced nice collectibles from makers on ETSY to coins like Bitcoin Penny items which
are very acheivable.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
The simplistic way I look at it is: If I buy a collectible with FIAT, that FIAT could potentially
be used instead to buy Bitcoin, If i pay with Bitcoin I can still buy Bitcoin again with FIAT I could have
used to pay with. Its sometimes more about owning a physical item than what its value will be in
X number of years. If we all followed the strict long-term hodler thought this hobby wouldnt exist.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Need to think more on that, I'm sure there are more Q's
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Below a series of questions, feel free to answer all or only part ...
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]
Had the collecting bug as a child with stamps…the one day in 2013 I came across an article about Bitcoin and after searching on the net came across Casascius….the rest is history. The idea of Bitcoin and a physical collectable was irresistible to me and thus my journey into the rabbit hole started.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
The idea a novel idea like Bitcoin and it being integrated into a physical “body” that can increase and decrease in price, that is unique and having the representation of physical and digital in one place.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
Our hobby is all based on trust, without the trust of the makers our hobby will be shunned. Many people look at us and probably shake their heads on the amount of money some of the loaded collectables hodl and the amount of trust needed to not lose any sleep at night knowing that your Bitcoin can be lost.
If I am not mistaken in past threads people couldn’t grasp on why physical Bitcoin was ever needed when it was contradicting the digital aspect of Bitcoin.
Regardless, I love this hobby and also the many other fellow collectors I have met and made friends with who share the same passion for these as I do.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
There are collectors for all types of items….each will find their own nich in the collectable community…time will be the judge on what will be most sought after. I have a feeling the rarity novelty of an item will be key…as time goes on what is not sought after today can be the most sought after tomorrow….I am mean look at NFTs! Who saw that coming? I didn’t for sure.
My favorite quote that I use under my Avatar is, The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone. a shortened quote meaning the item people ignored turned out to be the most important one after all.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
Do your homework on whats out there…read the thread about breached coins and scams…too many seller have sodl coins that are on that list without making them aware of the issues presented in the past. Also ask and find some OGs that have been around for some time for their advice and of course read the many threads we have posted thru the years. I can only wish they were available to me when I started…I would not have had to learn from my own mistakes….learn from other peoples mistakes!
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
That’s a great question! When I collected stamps, the ones I always wanted were the very first stamps issued from each country, or for that matter, the 1840 Black Penny GB stamp being the very first in the world. Not that I could have afforded any at the time.
That being said, when I entered this rabbit hole in 2013 I hadn’t dreamed of looking any further as I left for awhile…but when I came back and saw the many created thru the years I did some research and sought who was the first to come out with the first physical Bitcoin collectable…and that’s where I came across Bitbills.
Issues in May 9th 2011, months before Mike Caldwells Casascius coin, they were the first and to me, first is the biggest part of history. Many are not into loaded cards but only coins but for me it doesn’t matter at all, its who issued the first and that trophy belongs to Bitbills.
And for the longest time many people I know ignored…sodl or really didn’t care that much for them, and thus that is why I wear that motto The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone in reference to Bitbills.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
To me its my Bitbills collection and proof sheets and other items used in the nascent of Bitbills.
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
Really like this question….As BTC price keeps on going up, our collectables will be way out of reach for may, but there are still micro loaded coins that are within reach of many should they wish to join.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
Another great question that I solved for myself years ago.
I had bought an item for say $200 and the seller regretted paying for it 6 BTC back in 2012. This kinda haunted me a bit since down the line the same dilemma would eventually happen to me as well.
So the way I resolved it in my head was, I had x amount of BTC to HODL.
Any collectable items bought I bought new BTC that I wasn’t planning on buying at all but in this case it was for a collectable, so that somehow gave me peace of mind.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
Am I creator? I guess you might say I am for the items I have made and am planning to as well.
My main inspiration beside the genius behind Bitcoin and its revolutionary properties is the fact this anonymous person we call Satoshi Nakomoto invented Bitcoin and just walked away without enriching himself like most humans would have done. The fact that he did it for the better of mankind/altruistic reasons is a very big factor indeed.
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
My trademark and what it represents.
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
Very much so, this is my passion, that when life throws its worst at you, is what keeps me going.
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
When I joined the collectables in 2017 and up to a few years later this place was on fire….nowadays it has really slowed down quite a lot. My feeling is many have taken their interest into NFTs.
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]
Had the collecting bug as a child with stamps…the one day in 2013 I came across an article about Bitcoin and after searching on the net came across Casascius….the rest is history. The idea of Bitcoin and a physical collectable was irresistible to me and thus my journey into the rabbit hole started.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
The idea a novel idea like Bitcoin and it being integrated into a physical “body” that can increase and decrease in price, that is unique and having the representation of physical and digital in one place.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
Our hobby is all based on trust, without the trust of the makers our hobby will be shunned. Many people look at us and probably shake their heads on the amount of money some of the loaded collectables hodl and the amount of trust needed to not lose any sleep at night knowing that your Bitcoin can be lost.
If I am not mistaken in past threads people couldn’t grasp on why physical Bitcoin was ever needed when it was contradicting the digital aspect of Bitcoin.
Regardless, I love this hobby and also the many other fellow collectors I have met and made friends with who share the same passion for these as I do.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
There are collectors for all types of items….each will find their own nich in the collectable community…time will be the judge on what will be most sought after. I have a feeling the rarity novelty of an item will be key…as time goes on what is not sought after today can be the most sought after tomorrow….I am mean look at NFTs! Who saw that coming? I didn’t for sure.
My favorite quote that I use under my Avatar is, The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone. a shortened quote meaning the item people ignored turned out to be the most important one after all.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
Do your homework on whats out there…read the thread about breached coins and scams…too many seller have sodl coins that are on that list without making them aware of the issues presented in the past. Also ask and find some OGs that have been around for some time for their advice and of course read the many threads we have posted thru the years. I can only wish they were available to me when I started…I would not have had to learn from my own mistakes….learn from other peoples mistakes!
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
That’s a great question! When I collected stamps, the ones I always wanted were the very first stamps issued from each country, or for that matter, the 1840 Black Penny GB stamp being the very first in the world. Not that I could have afforded any at the time.
That being said, when I entered this rabbit hole in 2013 I hadn’t dreamed of looking any further as I left for awhile…but when I came back and saw the many created thru the years I did some research and sought who was the first to come out with the first physical Bitcoin collectable…and that’s where I came across Bitbills.
Issues in May 9th 2011, months before Mike Caldwells Casascius coin, they were the first and to me, first is the biggest part of history. Many are not into loaded cards but only coins but for me it doesn’t matter at all, its who issued the first and that trophy belongs to Bitbills.
And for the longest time many people I know ignored…sodl or really didn’t care that much for them, and thus that is why I wear that motto The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone in reference to Bitbills.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
To me its my Bitbills collection and proof sheets and other items used in the nascent of Bitbills.
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
Really like this question….As BTC price keeps on going up, our collectables will be way out of reach for may, but there are still micro loaded coins that are within reach of many should they wish to join.
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
Another great question that I solved for myself years ago.
I had bought an item for say $200 and the seller regretted paying for it 6 BTC back in 2012. This kinda haunted me a bit since down the line the same dilemma would eventually happen to me as well.
So the way I resolved it in my head was, I had x amount of BTC to HODL.
Any collectable items bought I bought new BTC that I wasn’t planning on buying at all but in this case it was for a collectable, so that somehow gave me peace of mind.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
Am I creator? I guess you might say I am for the items I have made and am planning to as well.
My main inspiration beside the genius behind Bitcoin and its revolutionary properties is the fact this anonymous person we call Satoshi Nakomoto invented Bitcoin and just walked away without enriching himself like most humans would have done. The fact that he did it for the better of mankind/altruistic reasons is a very big factor indeed.
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
My trademark and what it represents.
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
Very much so, this is my passion, that when life throws its worst at you, is what keeps me going.
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
When I joined the collectables in 2017 and up to a few years later this place was on fire….nowadays it has really slowed down quite a lot. My feeling is many have taken their interest into NFTs.
Below a series of questions, feel free to answer all or only part ...
I'm just a small collector [because of my current location] compared to most users on this board, but I'll answer some of them:- 1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]I bought or rather received my first crypto-collectibles "exactly six years ago [Microsoul and CryptoVest]" and as for the latter, I wanted to be part of something that's unique.
- 2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]The people that are involved in it and the most exciting part for me is having the finished products, in the palm of my hands.
- 4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]Coins and paintings!
- 5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?Read the sticky threads on this board!
- 8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?Regarding the latter type, it's harder for them, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for them to start their journey [e.g. free raffles/giveaways].
Below a series of questions, feel free to answer all or only part ...
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?] I have yet to buy one but I enjoy making collectible Bitcoin Cartoons for others.
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]I came across this forum earlier this year and I'd have to say the people I've met through it is the best part. Cliche I know.
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]I think the draw to collectibles stems from a deep understanding of the Bitcoin network. The more people invest time into understanding traditional vs Bitcoin monetary policy, the faster the collectible sector grows. To talk my own book, I think art is a powerful tool for introducing no-coiners to the space. With my cartoons, I take something that's relatable to John Doe and tie it back to the language of Bitcoiners. Personally, political cartoons achieve just that and I tend to think my best cartoons have some financial/political reference.
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?] To each their own. Objectively, I think physical coins will dominate in terms of resale. To the contrary, original artworks may pay off handsomely if the artist continues to hone his/her craft.
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time? Don't Trust, Verify.
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?] Can't answer this yet. TBD.
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects? A gRaILLLL??? While on the subject of medieval times, I could image collecting / designing blueprints for our future Bitcoin Citadels.
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well? I'd say the rich have the least amount of pennies
Kidding aside, if the penniless come across an up and coming artist or coin designer...or becomes one...the penniless have the upper hand. Invest in thyself.9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...] In dollar terms, I think the bitcoin would appreciate faster than the collectible. But stories are priceless.
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector? The deep understanding of Bitcoiners before me. I take most of my inspiration from the words of OG critical thinkers.
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view? I enjoy my third cartoon, Ideas Are Bulletproof, the most. Wouldn't be the worst if it doesn't sell.
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector? Haven't gotten the bug back yet. I collected bottle caps and old coins back in school. In time.
14. What do you think is the future for this sector? A circular bitcoin economy where like minded individuals transact without the state in the middle.
This would actually be pretty helpful for new collectors to see. It’s difficult to learn this space and can see this helping people w/wanting to stick around longer and more frequently. Participation may be sluggish for privacy concerns but I don’t think these questions are too invasive. I’ll participate.
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[Interviews]
1. slumberjack
2. SFR10
3. krogothmanhattan
4. aoluain
5. Steeley
6. jackbauercsgo
7. andulolika
8. Abiky
9. elianite
10. CARIBBEAN_TREASURES
11. yogg
12. Ahli38
13. eddie13
14. nutildah
15. ....
[Interviews]
1. slumberjack
2. SFR10
3. krogothmanhattan
4. aoluain
5. Steeley
6. jackbauercsgo
7. andulolika
8. Abiky
9. elianite
10. CARIBBEAN_TREASURES
11. yogg
12. Ahli38
13. eddie13
14. nutildah
15. ....
Taking inspiration from topic created by @zasad I decide to launch an interview topic dedicated to fellow collectors/creators of crypto collectibles 
I hope you like the idea, and
Take your time for answers to these questions, suggest other questions to this list, Invite your friends to take part in this interview, leave a comment or a suggestion!!!
Below a series of questions, feel free to answer all or only part ...
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
(New questions added 10 June 2022)
15. What would Satoshi think of this passion? [Would he/she/they also be a collector*?]
16. Could "attractive" objects from an aesthetic point of view be used as a “trojan horse” to bring “no coiners” to this sector? [likewise paints, figurative arts etc etc]
17. What do you think could be the "collector's item" that we would all like to own but that has yet to be invented?
18. What do you think of NFTs? Can they be considered real collector's items or are they useful only as "proof of ownership"?
More questions:
19. Now (Aug 2022) we are in a bear market, how is the collector market reacting in your opinion?
20. In a time (Nov 2022) with high inflation and bear market crypto
how do crypto collectibles react and how will they react in the coming days? They keep stable their corresponding value in crypto / FIAT?
Will they begin to be considered a sort of safe haven for both crypto enthusiasts and collectors in general?
I hope you like the idea, and
this topic will be useful and informative.
Take your time for answers to these questions, suggest other questions to this list, Invite your friends to take part in this interview, leave a comment or a suggestion!!!
Below a series of questions, feel free to answer all or only part ...
1. When you bought your first crypto collectibles? [What "triggered the spark" ?]
2. What did you love about this sector? [What excites you more about this kind of objects?]
3. What future do you see in this kind of collection? [Will there be an expansion based on the largest number of users who approach crypto currencies?]
4. What do you think are the objects or types of objects that will have a greater interest or revaluation in the future? [Coins? Drawings? Stamps?]
5. What advice would you give to those who are entering this sector for the first time?
6. Can you post your collection item that you think deserves more attention? [The rarest, the purchase you dreamed of, the one you are most fond of?]
7. What do you think could be the “holy grail” of collecting bitcoin/crypto objects?
8. Do you think it's a hobby "for the rich" or can it be started by "penniless" collectors as well?
9. What do you think about the dilemma of those who buy items paid for in bitcoin rather than keep bitcoins themselves? [It is the exact opposite of what happens in classic collecting where an inflationary system favors the long-term hodler...]
10. Observations / comments / ask yourself a question and give an answer.... more...
Special questions for creators / artists
11. What inspires you the most in creating objects in this sector?
12. Which is the creation you are most attached to from an emotional point of view?
13. Besides being a creator of collectibles, are you also a collector?
14. What do you think is the future for this sector?
(New questions added 10 June 2022)
15. What would Satoshi think of this passion? [Would he/she/they also be a collector*?]
16. Could "attractive" objects from an aesthetic point of view be used as a “trojan horse” to bring “no coiners” to this sector? [likewise paints, figurative arts etc etc]
17. What do you think could be the "collector's item" that we would all like to own but that has yet to be invented?
18. What do you think of NFTs? Can they be considered real collector's items or are they useful only as "proof of ownership"?
More questions:
19. Now (Aug 2022) we are in a bear market, how is the collector market reacting in your opinion?
20. In a time (Nov 2022) with high inflation and bear market crypto
how do crypto collectibles react and how will they react in the coming days? They keep stable their corresponding value in crypto / FIAT? Will they begin to be considered a sort of safe haven for both crypto enthusiasts and collectors in general?
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