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hero member
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May 05, 2024, 10:46:13 AM
#30
My setup is Apollov1 full node with Apollov2 standard piggybacked.


MRR only shows hash from Full node at 3TH. Gui show everything happily running at 8TH on eco mode for now. Gui also shows their are no pools accepting hashes nor is their a pool selected.
Their is a pool selected and the gui shows it happily mining. Where? Whats gui running at 8th for. Adding other pools seems to work as it should.

Also why can't you add a fallback pool, you said you were 5 years ago? Your 1st Gui was better simple and no fluff. The design of the second Apollo way beyond belief. Your inginuity is up their with The Dysons of the world.
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 943
April 28, 2024, 09:48:54 AM
#29
One thing I've noticed (not sure if it's a bug) but if I'm using the Apollo II to solo mine and then stop mining on the machine itself, but keep the node running, then the solo mining page shows the solo mining as offline even if I have other devices pointed to that address.

Is this normal?
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
April 24, 2024, 08:06:44 PM
#28
Just want to make sure I understand correctly, if I buy a "Apollo II - Standard Version", I'll be able to use it to mine Bitcoin at pools? I don't have to own a "APOLLO II FULL NODE" right?

Correct, you just won't be able to solo mine using the device. You can solo mine on a pool like ckpool though or just mine normally through any pool you wish

To also clarify since we get the question a lot, the solo mining capability of the Apollo II Full Node device is just a an optional feature. You can choose to mine to any pool you want like all our previous devices.

Also the USB Standard unit is not as 'plug and play' friendly...you need your own computer or raspberry pi type SBC and need to download our miner software thats command line based to run it (its pretty easy to setup, you just edit the supplied .bat or .sh script file but some people have allergic reactions when they see bash scripts or command line based software).

hero member
Activity: 1162
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April 23, 2024, 07:41:37 AM
#27
Just want to make sure I understand correctly, if I buy a "Apollo II - Standard Version", I'll be able to use it to mine Bitcoin at pools? I don't have to own a "APOLLO II FULL NODE" right?

Correct, you just won't be able to solo mine using the device. You can solo mine on a pool like ckpool though or just mine normally through any pool you wish
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1003
April 22, 2024, 11:34:52 PM
#26
Just want to make sure I understand correctly, if I buy a "Apollo II - Standard Version", I'll be able to use it to mine Bitcoin at pools? I don't have to own a "APOLLO II FULL NODE" right?
jr. member
Activity: 55
Merit: 13
April 09, 2024, 04:15:32 AM
#25
update resolved it. Thank you!
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
April 06, 2024, 12:36:07 AM
#24
Hey hey!

So just got my FE today. Beautiful machine! Question though.... I am unable to access the machine via local IP the way I was able with the Gen1 Apollo BTC. Is there anything I need to do with the machine to enable monitoring via other local machines?

Hi there is no difference in terms of accessing the web UI from local network. Just make sure you have the right IP address, and the device you are using is on the same network.

We also just emailed everyone with a significant update to the OS (your unit shipped with an early beta with a bunch of bugs that have been fixed).
jr. member
Activity: 55
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April 05, 2024, 12:10:43 AM
#23
Hey hey!

So just got my FE today. Beautiful machine! Question though.... I am unable to access the machine via local IP the way I was able with the Gen1 Apollo BTC. Is there anything I need to do with the machine to enable monitoring via other local machines?
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
March 18, 2024, 01:07:38 PM
#22
Hope anyone can share the $150 coupon code via PM Grin. Here in India the custom duties are whopping 36%. With shipping and duties it is almost half of the amount.

What is this coupon code you speak of?  This is the only time I've seen it mentioned.  I did see that gift cards through Fold were available temporarily with a cash back % offer.

I preorder standard unit, releise date?

We are getting ready to start shipping this month. Tail end of pre-orders might slip into bigining of April but majority should go out by end of the month!

FYI follow the @futurebit account on X for more regular updates.

If we placed an order today for shipping in the United States, when could we realistically expect to receive a unit? 

I'm glad to see that you guys continue to roll out new units.  There aren't enough people building miners for 110v home users that don't want to sound like they live in an airplane hanger.

Should have most Dec/Jan pre-orders out by end of the month, later orders early April, and new orders end of April/early May...of course this is all tentative and contingent on production ramp going smoothly but first units being shipped now are showing high yield with no major issues!
hero member
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March 13, 2024, 07:55:53 AM
#21
The coupon was sent out to people who bought out the Apollo v1
donator
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March 13, 2024, 02:24:45 AM
#20
Hope anyone can share the $150 coupon code via PM Grin. Here in India the custom duties are whopping 36%. With shipping and duties it is almost half of the amount.

What is this coupon code you speak of?  This is the only time I've seen it mentioned.  I did see that gift cards through Fold were available temporarily with a cash back % offer.

I preorder standard unit, releise date?

We are getting ready to start shipping this month. Tail end of pre-orders might slip into bigining of April but majority should go out by end of the month!

FYI follow the @futurebit account on X for more regular updates.

If we placed an order today for shipping in the United States, when could we realistically expect to receive a unit? 

I'm glad to see that you guys continue to roll out new units.  There aren't enough people building miners for 110v home users that don't want to sound like they live in an airplane hanger.
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
March 04, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
#19
I preorder standard unit, releise date?

We are getting ready to start shipping this month. Tail end of pre-orders might slip into bigining of April but majority should go out by end of the month!

FYI follow the @futurebit account on X for more regular updates.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
March 04, 2024, 12:25:57 PM
#18
I preorder standard unit, releise date?
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
February 29, 2024, 10:44:03 AM
#17
@jstefanop
The noise level for the ECO mode [less than 40 dba] is good for home miners, but I'm curious to know what the noise levels are on the TURBO mode [especially for using custom settings to get it up to 11 TH/s].

It's a 7k RPM fan and Turbo mode ~9-10TH sits at around 55dB @5-6kRPM depending on local environment. If you max it out you'll max out the RPMs and will prob be over 60db.

We left a lot overhead on the original Apollo BTC (and mostly limited by the 6 Pin power connectors). Now that we eliminated that with internal PSU and high gauge internal connections the limitation is cooling on the high end and noise levels are much louder but wanted to give everyone the option to take full advantage of the ASICs especially in winter/heating conditions.

In short turbo mode will live up to its name this time so dont expect to be able to run it in your bedroom. I would say up to 8TH or so is doable in most room settings based on my personal testing.

So when is the release date for this..
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
January 12, 2024, 03:41:21 PM
#16
@jstefanop
The noise level for the ECO mode [less than 40 dba] is good for home miners, but I'm curious to know what the noise levels are on the TURBO mode [especially for using custom settings to get it up to 11 TH/s].

It's a 7k RPM fan and Turbo mode ~9-10TH sits at around 55dB @5-6kRPM depending on local environment. If you max it out you'll max out the RPMs and will prob be over 60db.

We left a lot overhead on the original Apollo BTC (and mostly limited by the 6 Pin power connectors). Now that we eliminated that with internal PSU and high gauge internal connections the limitation is cooling on the high end and noise levels are much louder but wanted to give everyone the option to take full advantage of the ASICs especially in winter/heating conditions.

In short turbo mode will live up to its name this time so dont expect to be able to run it in your bedroom. I would say up to 8TH or so is doable in most room settings based on my personal testing.
legendary
Activity: 2061
Merit: 1388
January 12, 2024, 03:32:37 PM
#15
We have relationships with the major pools and will bootstrap all solo nodes directly to them. Any block found by a futurebit solo miner will propagate to the major pools first before the rest of the network.
So if you are only selling a total of 50 of these, that 'may' be possible.
If you are selling more than 100 of them, it's not possible.
Bitcoin wont allow 100's of connections by default since that would cause dramatic network performance issues.
No pool in their right mind would allow that either.

If instead you said you setup a transaction/block distribution network like bluematt used to run, for all these apollos, then yes that would be possible.
However, without that, it's not possible what you said.

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Our CPU is pretty fast as well and block creation is not a bottle neck.
It is a bottleneck on every CPU.
The question that matters is how long it takes.
e.g. does it include the CPU instructions to dramatically speed it up? (no it doesn't)
Can it average block template generation well under 100ms? (no)

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Also a valid block is a valid block, even if it shows up seconds late as long as no other block is found within those few seconds it will be included. 10 min block times were created for reasons like this where even small miners running regular computers can still participate at base layer...
Um, nope, seconds late is too late.
It dramatically increases the chances of an orphan.
Orphans still happen with the large pools every so often, they just don't tell anyone.
Since I have a world wide distribution of nodes and I track/report the block submissions/reorgs that happen in my monitoring, I can see them when they happen.

If the blocks generated by these nodes all say they are solo futurebit nodes, then that will be interesting to see what actually happens ...

Yes we are in the process of creating a few regional supernodes that are all connected to major pools, and those nodes are connected to our backend infrastructure that will send a block notify to every single solo miner that is opted in within milliseconds of a valid block detected. Backend is a propriety network that bypasses the p2p bitcoin network similar to what all major pools use among themselves.

Regardless you are still exaggerating the chances of an orphaned block even on the normal p2p network. There are 600 seconds within a block, lets say you are on a slow network and broadcast hits the major pools 6 seconds late, thats just a 1% chance someone will find another block before you (ie if EVERYONE solo mining has a slow connection, for ever 100 solo blocks found one will be extremely unlucky and get their block orphaned).

If you really want to get into the meat of the matter and the type of research I do to come up with the systems we do you can read these research publications for a deep dive on the topic:

https://sites.cs.ucsb.edu/~rich/class/cs293b-cloud/papers/bitcoin-delay#:~:text=The%20median%20time%20until%20a,not%20yet%20received%20the%20block.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363879722_Analysis_of_segregated_witness_implementation_for_increasing_efficiency_and_security_of_the_Bitcoin_cryptocurrency

Mean block propagation times were on the order of 6 seconds in the early days (2013 when the first article was published), due to more efficient core upgrades/computational increase/network bandwidth increases the mean has come down to around 2 seconds.

For everyday users trying to secure the network a .333% chance of orphaning a block compared to lets say major pools of .1% wont matter at the end of the day (and im not discounting the fact that it will matter HORRIBLY for that one person that will find a solo block after mining solo for years and it ends up orphaning but that is the nature of the bitcoin network and the risk solo miners take).


legendary
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January 09, 2024, 07:25:33 AM
#14
do you have any reseller package or local reseller by country or region ?
Apart from the North American region, the closest thing to a local reseller is a couple of retailers in the European [bitshopper] and African [bitmart] regions.
Note: I prefer not to vouch (DYOR)!
full member
Activity: 562
Merit: 139
December 22, 2023, 05:18:48 PM
#13
Just ordered a Founder's edition to help support Futurebit and home miner growth.

Although I won't be utilizing the local solo mining option I do look forward to adding this to my other Apollo BTC's Smiley

Edit: Actually maybe I will give the local solo mining a shot. Hopefully either the Apollo UI or integrated pool clearly shows best share!
member
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December 18, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
#12
Hope anyone can share the $150 coupon code via PM Grin. Here in India the custom duties are whopping 36%. With shipping and duties it is almost half of the amount.
legendary
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December 10, 2023, 07:10:12 AM
#11
with a fast CPU to do fast bitcoin block work changes
What do you consider to be a fast cpu for that?

Wondering if I get the full node from futurebit or just the miner addon and build my own full node.
Some high end 4+GHz CPU with lotsa cores.

We have relationships with the major pools and will bootstrap all solo nodes directly to them. Any block found by a futurebit solo miner will propagate to the major pools first before the rest of the network.
This would only be true for the full node package right? Or could also do that if we run the addon miner off a non futurebit full node?
As I mentioned above, this isn't possible.
Even if they did setup a distribution network in the future, you talk to that first, not the major pools.
If not, then only a very few of the futurebit's will ever be able to talk directly to a major pool.
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