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legendary
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September 04, 2021, 09:26:48 AM
I believe this thread was started on April 1st for good reason and it was not to hype NFT's.  Grin


Hahaha


OP needs to add some more detail to his original post.  This one would fit superbly. 






Vlad  -  Kids, don’t do the drugs.  Unless they come with hookers & they’re all free.  Lol

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September 01, 2022, 03:48:17 PM
BCT forum NFTs are now a thing, thanks to nutildah and Counterparty

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411112.0;topicseen
legendary
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July 09, 2022, 10:14:40 PM
I'm trying to raise funds to pursue my dream of landing a Satoshi NFT before I die, so I'm selling a couple of my NFTs. But with mine you get an actual image file. It is my original WO Hat as designed by the fabulous xhomerx10. He tells me the background is a famous dog park.

Here's the art which will be owned by the owner of the nutildah-III NFT (they have permission to use it how they want):



Decided to literally follow through on my promise and created the _actual_ nutildah-III NFT using Counterparty, on the Bitcoin blockchain no less. Here is the transaction that minted it, and here's what it looks like on a non-Counterparty enabled block explorer.

And there is a "real Satoshi NFT"... well, its called SATOSHICARD and somebody paid 6 BTC (real BTC) for one five months ago.



In the last year, since this contest ended, a "Historical NFT" movement was birthed. It turns out old tokens with images associated with them are a big deal b/c there wasn't many prior to 2016... even fewer where the image info is embedded in the blockchain data. SATOSHICARD was created in June 2015, which predates everything on Ethereum, and also its about Satoshi, so that's why its super valuable among Bitcoin NFTs.

Anyway, Bitcoin NFTs unironically blew up after theymos' contest last year.

I will transfer nutildah-III to its rightful owner, friends1980, once I get a BTC address from him.
legendary
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September 04, 2021, 09:16:02 AM
Hot Off The Press:

It's the world's first animated Bitcointalk fNFT:

nutildah-V


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Buy my NFTs and stop being poor today!

Still mad I never got to sell this for fake BTC.

Gotta say, that’s a clever piece.  Sadly I don’t even a fake btc to buy it let alone a real one.  Ha. 

Good luck! 




I believe this thread was started on April 1st for good reason and it was not to hype NFT's.  Grin


Hahaha


OP needs to add some more detail to his original post.  This one would fit superbly. 






Vlad  -  Kids, don’t do the drugs.  Unless they come with hookers & they’re all free.  Lol



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legendary
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August 30, 2021, 12:47:11 AM
Hot Off The Press:

It's the world's first animated Bitcointalk fNFT:

nutildah-V


...
Buy my NFTs and stop being poor today!

Still mad I never got to sell this for fake BTC.
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June 28, 2021, 09:33:08 AM
Maybe next year the April fools joke will be that theymos makes a thread announcing that he is changing his name to "thermos", but here is the catch, each person shows that their own display name is "thermos" and they have access to a fake admin pannel. The admin pannel shows a variety of fake PMs among various forum members talking about the "real" forum member. The admin pannel also allows for the user to edit any post, but doing so will only affect the user making the edit.

But we already have it... Epochtalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0


Epochtalk will not be a April fool's joke, instead it will be a improved version of bitcointalk. The only question is when ?

By the way NFT's does not have any use case on this forum. For a perfect scenario,  the forum needs to launch a marketplace for NFT which shouldn't be a  requirement for a forum.
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April 28, 2021, 04:41:17 AM
Maybe next year the April fools joke will be that theymos makes a thread announcing that he is changing his name to "thermos", but here is the catch, each person shows that their own display name is "thermos" and they have access to a fake admin pannel. The admin pannel shows a variety of fake PMs among various forum members talking about the "real" forum member. The admin pannel also allows for the user to edit any post, but doing so will only affect the user making the edit.

But we already have it... Epochtalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0
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April 28, 2021, 04:19:31 AM
You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php
The link cant be found ATM. On what blockchain will be the NFT coin? where it can be stored as well

ololajulo Date Registered:   October 07, 2016

Have you completed KYC? To qualify for the NFT(fNFTs) KYC now required
Maybe next year the April fools joke will be that theymos makes a thread announcing that he is changing his name to "thermos", but here is the catch, each person shows that their own display name is "thermos" and they have access to a fake admin pannel. The admin pannel shows a variety of fake PMs among various forum members talking about the "real" forum member. The admin pannel also allows for the user to edit any post, but doing so will only affect the user making the edit.
copper member
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April 27, 2021, 11:11:03 PM
You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php
The link cant be found ATM. On what blockchain will be the NFT coin? where it can be stored as well

ololajulo Date Registered:   October 07, 2016

Have you completed KYC? To qualify for the NFT(fNFTs) KYC now required
legendary
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#SWGT CERTIK Audited
April 27, 2021, 08:16:36 PM
You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php

The link cant be found ATM. On what blockchain will be the NFT coin? where it can be stored as well
The link is reserved for highly I scored Q members. Blockchain is CatChain. Stored in Bitcointalkland.
Are you serious? Read the 2 posts above yours.
sr. member
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Chainjoes.com
April 27, 2021, 05:18:53 PM
You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php

The link cant be found ATM. On what blockchain will be the NFT coin? where it can be stored as well
hero member
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April 27, 2021, 04:55:10 PM
I believe this thread was started on April 1st for good reason and it was not to hype NFT's.  Grin
legendary
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Merit: 7892
April 27, 2021, 04:49:49 PM
Let's start a petition to bring back fNFTs. If we all sign it theymost will have no choice but to make it so. It's part of the democratization of the forum, after all. We need to form a sophisticated forum government so we can basically order him around.

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Many forum users have invested a lot of time into the forum, so why not turn this time-equity into tradeable commodities? You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php

404 not found.  So legit insider cash game for the already rich.  Go ahead block just, it’s better than brunch incompetent and liars.  I have a 13,000 page thread.  You just don’t want me here.  Invite only, ey, Theymos. 

Nice racket.  Too legit to quit. 
...

Bro wut?  Cheesy

Don't drink and post, kids.
legendary
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April 27, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
Although we enjoyed a lot on this NFT day but did anyone miss Lauda on this event ?

No.

The cats NFTs are in demand and could be the most worthy ones to buy  Tongue

brb while I kill myself Cheesy




How about a puppy hanging by a belt.  Saw some crazy Buy post it.  Do you post memes and people buy them?  Why?  On this thread. 




I posted 15 original memes., nothing vulgar.  Why were they ALL deleted - only cats allowed?  I can grab those off the net or take pics of my neighbors coon Maine.  You have a contest here with no rules. 

Coal burners!





Many forum users have invested a lot of time into the forum, so why not turn this time-equity into tradeable commodities? You can now trade forum NFTs (fNFTs):
https://bitcointalk.org/fnft.php

404 not found.  So legit insider cash game for the already rich.  Go ahead block just, it’s better than brunch incompetent and liars.  I have a 13,000 page thread.  You just don’t want me here.  Invite only, ey, Theymos. 

Nice racket.  Too legit to quit. 





Although we enjoyed a lot on this NFT day but did anyone miss Lauda on this event ?

No.

The cats NFTs are in demand and could be the most worthy ones to buy  Tongue

brb while I kill myself Cheesy




Oy, cats.  Probabilul Grabned Off google.  Wow, Amazing creativity and originality.  Never seen that before.  Can I bid just 50 btc for this racket? 


The cumulative IQ on this board is well below 90.  YOU don’t want thinkers with a mouth here. 

Censorship.  Heil ze gulags. 

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hero member
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April 10, 2021, 06:10:29 AM
Although we enjoyed a lot on this NFT day but did anyone miss Lauda on this event ?

No.

The cats NFTs are in demand and could be the most worthy ones to buy  Tongue

brb while I kill myself Cheesy

5K A DAY RESELLING DANK MEMES BRO ~ YOU NEW HERE?? WEEEEEEEEEE
full member
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April 09, 2021, 06:01:00 AM
Although we enjoyed a lot on this NFT day but did anyone miss Lauda on this event ?

No.

The cats NFTs are in demand and could be the most worthy ones to buy  Tongue

brb while I kill myself Cheesy


legendary
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nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01
April 07, 2021, 05:54:45 PM
(...)
Here's a dump of the final balances and fNFT ownership:
https://bitcointalk.org/af2021.txt.xz

I'll pay 334 fBTC for a couple of pizzas.. like maybe 2 large ones so I have some left over for the next day.

Etc. Cool
legendary
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**In BTC since 2013**
April 05, 2021, 03:12:57 PM
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I agree that the market is now out of control in this regard. Because it is new, there is a lot of money that many have earned with almost zero costs, and for fun.

On the other hand, I believe that the market will gradually stabilize, and in the future become something really valued, online and offline. It can really be a gateway for many plastic artists who find it difficult to enter the arts market due to the lack of "friends".
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April 05, 2021, 05:03:22 AM

It seems that you may have missed a few of my prior posts on this thread, q.v.:


Note:  I am not an NFT expert, and do not claim to be; here, I seem to have fallen into that rôle by default.  I neither know nor care about most of what is going on in the NFT markets now; my interest is in the future, and in the use cases that make sense.  Most of the following is simply my own musings, although I vaguely recall having seen the art provenance use case discussed somewhere.

If someone sells a "NFT" of say, the Monalisa, under what authority is the painting sold digitally? What would stop a random person, who has no connection to ownership of the actual Monalisa from selling this NFT?

What stops a random person from selling a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge?  That was such a famous scam that it inspired an American idiom, “I have a bridge to sell you.”


I should make an NFT of this image, and sell it for $100 million.

Yes, there are fraudulent NFTs now being sold.  They are no different than the fraudulent deeds that George Parker sold for the Brooklyn Bridge and various other landmarks.  A fool and his money are soon parted.

Now, let us flip the scenario around:  Suppose that you do own the Mona Lisa.  You hit hereby on an issue that I have specifically spent time thinking about—specifically in the context of NFTs:  Art provenance, and the certification thereof.

You invest considerable money and effort in having art provenance experts certify that you own the actual Mona Lisa.  They give you a certificate which states, “We, the undersigned, hereby certify that the painting in PrimeNumber7’s possession is the genuine Mona Lisa,” with some attached documentation.  You want for that certificate to be infeasible to counterfeit; you want a means to back it up; and you want a secure means to convey it to buyers—a means that provides a timestamped and authenticated chain of transfer, which helps to keep provenance established as the asset and its attached certificate are subsequently resold.

An NFT, with ownership controlled by a private key backed up with whatever means you use to back up your cryptographic seeds, meets all of these criteria; and an NFT far exceeds any physical medium per these criteria, just as Bitcoin has many practical properties superior to paper cash notes.  (Of course, the analogy is imperfect insofar as a non-fungible asset cannot be combined or subdivided.)

N.b. that I am not talking about some arrangement of pixels that appear to be the Mona Lisa.  I refer instead to cryptographically secured, strongly authenticated provenance paperwork.

I think that in the future, the sale of physical artworks may practically require provenance to be certified and conveyed via NFTs, insofar as buyers may start to demand it.  That could take a bite out of art forgery and other frauds!

(Of course, there is no way to cryptographically guarantee that a physical artwork is transferred together with the NFT.  But that is no different than the situation with paper documentation of provenance; the security of an NFT is still strictly superior.)

Compare and contrast what I just said about art provenance with what I previously said about a much more common use case:  Real estate title.  Just be sure to avoid the scams with people selling NFTs of title to the Brooklyn Bridge.  Yes, it is trivial to make a token contract that sells as many instances of the Brooklyn Bridge as you want—just as trivial as making a bunch of plausible-looking paper deeds for the same purpose.

Myself, I look forward to the day when I will send you a bitcoin in exchange for an NFT of a house.  I don’t mean a “virtual world” house.  I mean a real house, the legal title to a house:  An NFT minted by your local government to represent title to a certain parcel of land with all improvements thereupon.

The swap will be done atomically—either on Bitcoin with RGB/Spectrum, or with cross-chain atomic swaps.  If implemented properly, it will be incomparably more secure than a system of notaries public, lawyers, recording clerks, and title agencies; and it will replace all of these functions with something better.  “Closing of title” will consist of your cryptographic digital signature (“Not your keys, not your house!”), a tx broadcast, and some blockchain confirmations.



If there is already a NFT of an image in existence, what would stop someone from changing a small number of pixels of said image, and selling a NFT of said image?

Nothing.  Depending on how the contract is written, they may not even need to change any pixels.  It is just another dumb fraud.  The systems for creating an NFT (such as the ERC-1155 standard) typically just specify a set of interfaces; in the application thereof, you have great flexibility in defining the semantics.

The world is chock full of ways to scam people.  That is not a problem specific to NFTs, although the problem with scams is always bigger with new technologies and new markets.  As people learn, they wise up until the scams can only fool some real suckers.  This has happened in various forms many times.

There is also the issue of GANs. Someone could potentially create a GAN whose generator network creates images of art. Once the GAN is created, it would be trivial to create a near unlimited supply of NFTs.

As you probably know if you saw my posts in Lauda’s goodbye thread, I love GANs!  Especially GANS that create nonexistent cats.  😼

What you ask is really just a question of valuation.  People’s ability to value such things may currently be impaired, because both GANs and NFTs are unfamiliar new technologies.  If anyone is spending huge sums of money buying an artwork NFT generated by an adversarial network, well—a fool and his money...

That being said, GANs do take some skill plus compute resources for generating the model.  Arguably, they also require at least a modicum of artistry to obtain a quality model.

I might consider paying a moderate amount for GAN imagery that I found especially pleasing—especially for high-resolution imagery, which would require terrific GPU resources to get the model.  (For hobby-level computing costs, you probably will not go above 512x512 pixels—if that!)  And why should I not pay?  I have considered asking around to see if I can find someone who will make me GAN images of X, Y, and Z; for you see, I want high-definition nonexistent cats.  NFTs could simply be a convenient way for me to pay for that type of thing.

Last summer, millions of Americans were receiving more in unemployment than they were receiving while working and didn't have to pay for expenses related to work such as gas for commuting, dry cleaning, or eating out to lunch. Americans have also received thousands of "stimulus" dollars, while many traditional forms of entertainment are closed. I think the crazy prices of NFTs are largely a result of this excess money given to Americans.

How much of this supposed excess money has gone into Bitcoin?  Hmmm.  (To be clear, I think that would be a good thing insofar as it may lead to bitcoinization.)

I think that the current crazy prices for some NFTs are the result of media hype.  Remember that Pets.com collapsed, but Amazon.com is (unfortunately) still here—and more apropos, the Internet is still here.  These things happen with hot new technologies—when every fool wants a piece, and the scent of “get rich quick!” hangs heavy in the air.  After fools get shaken out, then adoption stabilizes, and the technology becomes ubiquitous.  And yes, a few people will get fantastically rich off of it.  A few.
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April 05, 2021, 02:17:01 AM
--NFTs are awesome--
If someone sells a "NFT" of say, the Monalisa, under what authority is the painting sold digitally? What would stop a random person, who has no connection to ownership of the actual Monalisa from selling this NFT? If there is already a NFT of an image in existence, what would stop someone from changing a small number of pixels of said image, and selling a NFT of said image?

There is also the issue of GANs. Someone could potentially create a GAN whose generator network creates images of art. Once the GAN is created, it would be trivial to create a near unlimited supply of NFTs.

Last summer, millions of Americans were receiving more in unemployment than they were receiving while working and didn't have to pay for expenses related to work such as gas for commuting, dry cleaning, or eating out to lunch. Americans have also received thousands of "stimulus" dollars, while many traditional forms of entertainment are closed. I think the crazy prices of NFTs are largely a result of this excess money given to Americans.
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