Topic: Inventing a job is better than finding a job - page 4. (Read 1511 times)

Is this like a dilemma, right? Actually, both positions should be balanced, and if they're not balanced, one side will naturally be inclined to switch to the other side. This really happens in my country, even though the practice isn't perfect yet, but there are many lessons I can learn from this.

The picture below shows the monthly salary rate in my area, where job opportunities are very limited and many people are looking for work to make a living. Yes, you're not mistaken, in one month, the average person with a regular job has a minimum salary standard of $125 for 160 hours of work. This is even smaller than the campaign payment for Legendary rank members, which can reach $130 in just 7 days.



Because the amounts above are in local currency, here are the converted results at the current exchange rate from IDR (Indonesian Rupiah) to USD.
1,957,169 IDR = 125,85 USD


Seeing such low salaries, many people are now turning to entrepreneurship with just courage, without careful calculation and planning. This is one of the right decisions but in the wrong way. Yes, recently there have been many new stores opening within a month, and then the next month they close due to inadequate management. And this doesn't happen once or twice, but there are already hundreds of stores in my city facing the same fate.

Responding to your question, what is the right choice? Being an employee or risking more money to create job opportunities?

Alright, I'm more inclined towards providing job opportunities, but with the condition that finding a job is extremely difficult. After upgrading skills and self-improvement, if finding a job is still challenging, that indicates that becoming an entrepreneur is the only option. Should I just dive into it right away? Certainly not. I've made mistakes several times in entrepreneurship, and that's also because of the lack of careful calculation. This experience is what makes me not want to repeat the same mistakes.

The best option is to study business within less than a year to find the best formula. Then launch the business to start absorbing the workforce. After realizing that the monthly salaries for employees are very low due to the lack of job opportunities, I believe it becomes an initial advantage for us to more easily attract competent workers.

Perhaps there are things that don't go according to plan, so always have Plan A, Plan B, and so on ready.

and this has become a common problem for everyone who wants to have a business, in my opinion if they are sure that the business that will be run can really produce and are confident that they will run it well I think they can do it but they don't have enough funds I think they can take out a loan to start their business, and maybe this will help them to start the business they want, as long as they are sure that the business they will run can run well so that it generates profits for themselves and can pay off the loan to start the capital earlier.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with doing this,  because any business that will be run, of course, there must be struggles and sacrifices made to establish a business, and maybe this includes struggles or sacrifices in a business.

I like your point, laziness is what will lead to living a life of regret because we may not have any opportunity for making any achievements for being lazy while we will be loosing opportunities repeatedly, lazy us a setback force that drives us away far from what we are supposed to achieve in life.


No body is exempted from this experience except we take a drastic measures to make sure we are determined for what we are pursuing after, our qualifications, class or status doesn't mean we cannot still engage being lazy except we are very careful of the way we make use of the freedom we have.

But I think it's a common thing that almost everyone does and also building a job is not as easy as turning your palm especially if you don't come from a family that has good financial strength or comes from a rich family. Thinking about the future is very important because as you said that as time goes by our energy will decrease due to the increasing age factor, but for the early stages I think it's normal if the younger generation prefers to look for a job first, they need a lot of experience to as a provision that will be very useful when later they want to build their own business and create jobs for others.

It's all just about the person's stance and their concern for their future, there are some people who spend their time just working as a clerk and there are also those who have a developmental and advanced mindset as we discussed here where they should think and care about their future by creating many opportunities for financial freedom in old age. And also it's all about whether they are willing to take risks by trying new things or just staying put and just being a laborer/employee for the rest of their life, it's a choice.

     -   If a person is lazy, even if there are many opportunities around him, he will still not have a job, for sure. But in real life, a strategic person, whether or not there is an opportunity around him, will definitely be able to find a way to earn a living.

Even those who have completed courses or are degree holders are the ones demanding the job they want; if it does not suit what they have studied, they will not accept the job offer. while others, even after graduating, swallow the profession just to have a job.

Young people often choose to look for a job and consider themselves as an employee but as we grow old, we realize how important to create a job rather than find a job. We know that our energy won't last forever and as we grow old, it is hard for us to perform tasks that require a high level of energy and even in office staff, some companies are hiring young people. But if we have skills, even if we grow old still we can make money because people will still be looking at us for service. Some are running a business and these people are earning even if they are not working which seems to be their advantage.

In critical economic conditions like now. It is very important for us to find other skills that we can learn, and we have to master them so that we can make good use of them when someone needs the job services that we can do. And we don't just have 1 skill, we also learn more. So that we can always be ready for every job vacancy in any field. Being multi-talented can mean we can find more opportunities. Well, that's what I believe and that's why I personally am also in the process of learning many things. Because I think this will be useful for my future.

Unfortunately, most intermediaries try to take advantage of this opportunity to get the most profit possible. They do not assess the ability of the applicants, but they look at the amount of money that will be offered to the intermediary. And if the price is right then it is certain that the applicant will be pursued and escorted until he gets a work contract with the company. And applicants who use this route are commonly known as entrusted applicants.


And at this time it is very difficult to find someone who is honest and responsible for the work he carries out. we never lack smart people, but we always lack honest people. So that in practice related to fraud in the process of recruiting workers, this still often happens. 

And those everybody that wants to have the business that they're dreaming of, many of them are not capable of managing it even if they'll be funded. Because the lesson is there when they first start it and it's expected to fail.

Let's say you're already on the point of operation and you're able to do much with it. The problem goes now with the costing, there are a lot of factors need to consider just like what you've mentioned and the ones you've said are just the beginning because there's more to them.

I admire those that started with a little capital and they rolled it throughout their operation and maintain it until they've seen the growth of it. Anyway, it's not always the capital that matters but how you know what you are doing when you started your own business and your long term vision including providing more workers job under you.

You’re right. There would possibly be always irresponsible people in the society. And it’s sad that people who chose to be irresponsible in the workplace in most times than not, have a “friend” or knows someone higher up. Employees like these wouldn’t put in much effort for the success of the goals of the company.
Corruption is everywhere and it’s bad for any recruitment process as the suitable candidate would never be chosen for employment. And someone who haven’t earned the power and the responsibility of an office or a position and was simply placed there would go on to abuse such positions without actually getting anything done.

I think everybody wants to have their own business but the fund to start something is where the problem lies. It is easy for us to say we are going to do this and do that even after planning but we might not have the funds to keep that dream burning because of so many factors that includes, what to produce, how to produce, where to produce, fund to enable production etc. This is one of the reasons why so many projects and investment keeps falling apart because yo get a rea answer to this could be very difficult or challenging to us even though we have the capital.

Just get used to it on which we are living on a world which equality is always been an issue or doubtful thing or simply there's no balance on this world and to those who are on the position and have the financial capacity would really be always having the advantage compared into those people who are really just that considered to be on common ones. So dont expect that there would really be a fair treatment
or those people would really be taking out the hard path for them to be able to get something specially if there's someone who had been backing them up then you could say that there's no chance
for you to be hired or would be chosen and just like been said then it is really that disgusting.

Going back into the topic that investing a job than finding a job should be your main priority? I dont think that this would really be a simple path to take on which we do consider out
on what are the things that you would really be needing and what are the things that you do need to achieve or attain first before you could be able to
have one.

In everything there will definitely be irresponsible people, especially if the person has connections with officials or someone who has a high position in the company, of course it will be freer for them to do things that are actually very disgusting.

Just imagine when there are people who want to get a job to get money, they actually have to spend money first. I understand that in order to get money, something has to be sacrificed including spending money, but from your story it is tantamount to illegal actions and far from the rules and policies of a company.
However, it must be recognized that a high position and money will become something powerful, even though it is wrong.

If you look at those around you, the majority choose “finding a job”. This is simpler and easier to implement, there is stability and regularity, and also, all responsibility and risks are assigned to the employer. But the significant disadvantage is that the final (total) reward is less if you “inventing a job”. And the main problem with “inventing a job” is that only a few can do it (it requires the necessary skills, abilities, natural inclinations and talents, and most importantly, luck), just as very few achieve success. There are many cases around when attempts to “inventing a job” ended in failure and unprofitability, up to bankruptcy, loans and debts. In this case, it is better to “finding a job” if your “inventing a job” leads to a worse financial situation than if your choice was “finding a job”.

It is obvious to everyone that there is no universal answer when choosing between these options. But I would like to focus on the fact that even for each individual person, at different periods of life, this choice can shift from “finding a job” to “inventing a job” (in different directions).

Here, of course, everything depends on the honesty of the intermediary and how much he cares about his reputation. An employer benefits from having a qualified, conflict-free employee come to him, and such people can be attracted mainly by recommendation. If a recommender wants to earn his interest, he must correctly assess the employer's needs and be honest with applicants

Take it easy... because if you have money and are an insider, getting a job is not difficult. That's what happened in my place. One can easily get a job just by giving some money to an insider. Even this has become a very common thing and the people who play in it do not hesitate to set a price, so that someone can be accepted to work in a company. even to become a factory employee, they have to bribe with a sum of money that is approximately equal to the employee's salary for one month. So when there is someone who wants to become a factory employee, then he must give up one month's salary that he gets while working.

And what's worse, man..... besides the acts of corruption that often occur in the employee recruitment process, there are also irresponsible people who try to take advantage of this opportunity to deceive job applicants. Where the person claims to be someone who has an important position in a factory or company, then he tries to commit a crime of fraud by offering applicants a fast track to work, on condition that they give a certain amount of money. But in reality he really can't guarantee that the person's job application will be accepted.

So, this is where you need to educate yourself by having small skills, but specifically, at least you have the talent/skill for manual work and it is always needed by other people. For example, become an electrical installer or if you don't go there, look for a small business where the main thing you sell is daily necessities.

Everything will look like easy and will work if we want to do it, you can look for knowledge or references from anywhere and it depends on your needs. What you're describing is one of the most effective ways that people who are now successful in their lives have always used, not entirely successful but most of them get something that can make their lives better. I often hear the words of some great teachers that "take advantage of the situation and absorb the knowledge" meaning that we must really be able to take advantage of all the opportunities that come, as you say take as much knowledge as possible when we are working in a company that is good enough of course that can give us new things that are positive and that have benefits.

Do not let you go out empty-handed, like spending a lot of time in school but when you graduate you don't get any lessons then it will be in vain, you will not get a good impact that is useful for the future. Likewise in terms of work, we must be serious in working so that we can gain experience to be used as a provision that will be very useful when you want to build your own business in the same field. Because in terms of business it is not only money that needs to be prepared but more importantly experience that will be able to make you build good planning and management in your business, it's useless if you have a lot of money but don't know how to manage a business, it will end in vain and failure.

And that's what other fresh graduates doing, looking for a job from a good and well know companies to gain experiences and to enhance their knowledges about the specific task so that if the time will come that they want to build their own business, they can apply all the things they learned from working. Even those rich students who has a capability building their own business right after the graduation still choose to apply for a work, unless they have build already their own businesses or they are heir in their family business. Whatever it is, I can say that you can handle well your own business if you have a lot of work/life experiences.

Hired labor is not only a way to shift responsibility to the employer, it also means more free time outside of working hours, because your own business will require much more of your time and knowledge in different areas.

This choice is not so simple, your business can be successful for several years, but at some point it will become unprofitable, it is not uncommon for a business to fail. When I read an article a long time ago that a highly paid job will always be better than having your own business, and I probably agree with this. Each choice will have positive and negative sides, but if the positive aspects predominate in your choice, then do what makes you most comfortable. There is no single correct choice.