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Topic: Investors are getting smarter but why not developers???? - page 3. (Read 736 times)

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What the developers are after is the cheap listing fee since reputable exchange is very expensive. But on the other hand, although you had listed your coin or token the thing is that if it is not in a good exchange or decent at the very least then it would not have a good impact to the image of your project especially if it is a shady exchange. Though there are cases that it is the user's fault and just ranting that it is a scam exchange well in fact they don't know how to use it or they had exposed their private details needed to sign in in an exchange.
their problem is that it is difficult to join a large exchange, and they are very aware of the requirements that cannot be done.

Then there are two things that I often read in their telegrams. 1. They ask for opinions from the community. 2. There are accounts that claim that certain exchange parties offer services for listing, and the admin tells them to DM and communicate further. What happens then is that they are tricked, or they just choose an exchange that is easier to get in like forkdelta.
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What the developers are after is the cheap listing fee since reputable exchange is very expensive. But on the other hand, although you had listed your coin or token the thing is that if it is not in a good exchange or decent at the very least then it would not have a good impact to the image of your project especially if it is a shady exchange. Though there are cases that it is the user's fault and just ranting that it is a scam exchange well in fact they don't know how to use it or they had exposed their private details needed to sign in in an exchange.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

i do not think so, because the more scam projects, the smarter the developer, because with the growth which is getting better with many existing regulations, but at least the developer will continue to use his expertise in related matters. on the issue of listing fees, i don't think that's a big problem for most developers and good projects, because when a project really has money the developer doesn't depend entirely on investors for project development
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
Well, if they knew that it would be a boomerang for them, I think they were really not serious about developing their projects. yes, it's good enough if the not-so-bad exchanger starts. but, some projects even put their tokens in a really bad exchanger. it's the same as turning off their own project.'
thinking about this, I sometimes only see projects that have a good market.
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investors are getting smarter because they have become victims of fraud and will not want to repeat the mistakes that have been made, while the developers who are in their minds get profits quickly and leave the project...
It seems that the last 1 year investors have begun to realize that, followed by investor confidence in ICO which has dropped dramatically. so many projects fail to get funding. many projects that only want to make a profit and run, without developing their projects. so, in the end, they have taken investor funds compared to listings in the market where the costs are quite high.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.
of course being an investor must choose a good exchange, for the project to be invested. if on a bad exchange, then we have a double risk, that is, the project itself and the risk of the exchange. therefore by choosing a project that is in good exchange, it can indicate that the project is good too
The more here is more and more interested in the world of investing. So many new investors are popping up. Investment is very trending in many circles, the more it is also more and more invetor who continue to develop their talent in the field of investment. This makes them start to race to continue to learn investment. It makes them smarter, but still the process. So it could not develop suddenly.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
The developers do not want to spend money. The developer who wants to contribute to the future keeps others superior to the "perfect" coin he created. So it would not even be right to call them developers. Imagine, the creators of today's shitcoins are developers like Satoshi who created BTC. There is no tool to measure the difference between them.
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If an exchange listing a coin for free then its probably a scam exchange,just see how much it will cost to list on reputed exchange like Binance.

But if developers looking for much cheaper option means they did't have enough money or trading volume to list on the better exchange.

None of them are smart here,everyone running behind more profits.
for example like this, for large exchanges such as binance, large fees and they are reluctant to enter there. means that they don't have enough money and means the project isn't working. they chose an exchange with a cheap or even free fee, instead it became a boomerang because it was prone to price scams and quiet of demand.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
I don't think it's that simple. Despite the listing fee that is quite expensive for some exchanges especially top ones, there must other thing they have to consider before their listing. Even the successful ones, sometimes takes a lot of time before it could be in a good exchanges. As long as the project was proven legit, I don't think that the developers were that dumb to listed their altcoin on some shady exchanges. Unless they don't have any other choice than using the unpopular free listing exchanges.
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From my experience i can tell most of developers do not even try to list their token on good exchanges because they want to keep fund for themselves and spend it for personal stuff since most of ICOs has no fund report or spending report for transparency with investors thats why developers always make sure to mention word donation on their white paper
In my opinion developers who ask for icos with millions of dollars are all scam.

That is true, but maybe they wait for a good moment to try list in the good exchanges, so they don't waste their time to expect the market comes with the bull market. I think they will get another solution for listing their token in the exchanges and we need to wait for their announcement or their new update. But let us be careful to choose the project as the investment because we know that the ICO programs are not recommended for the investment right now.
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From my experience i can tell most of developers do not even try to list their token on good exchanges because they want to keep fund for themselves and spend it for personal stuff since most of ICOs has no fund report or spending report for transparency with investors thats why developers always make sure to mention word donation on their white paper
In my opinion developers who ask for icos with millions of dollars are all scam.
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Developers are smart, they know whats they are doing too and many developers are just here to scam people so they will definitely go for crap exchanges to cut short their spendings, newbies should stay away from low exchanges because they always ruin a coin life in a short time
If this is the only exchange listed your tokens , there is no way you will not use it, unless you dont want to have money with your tokens.
Many reasons for developer to list it only in unpopular exchange.
 1st they dont want to use so much money for listing.
2. They dont raised  enough fund  in thier ICO.
3. They dont really care to list thier tokens, since its worthless coins.
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They haven't lost as much as investor and moreover they can get free listing from Exchanges and also can scam investors through fake publicity mad sales so they have other means of recovering unlike investors.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
If you notice, only scam coins are getting listed into scam exchanges. There can be some exceptions like MTC was listed on hitbtc but as of now it had been delisted. Some times developers choose whatever offers they come cross with the intention of reducing the listing costs. This might be ending up listing scam exchanges. But, a dev team that is caring about their investors will never go on listing with an exchange which had failed to keep their reputation high.

Doesn't make a ton of sense to me because the cost for listing a coin on an exchange should not be a significant cost compared to how much money many of these projects are still raising
No, not all the projects are good in attracting investors even they are backed with wonderful concepts and showing good progress in developments. As far as I have heard, listing in big exchanges is more than an average project is able to rise through various crowd funding.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.
of course being an investor must choose a good exchange, for the project to be invested. if on a bad exchange, then we have a double risk, that is, the project itself and the risk of the exchange. therefore by choosing a project that is in good exchange, it can indicate that the project is good too
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Developers are smart, they know whats they are doing too and many developers are just here to scam people so they will definitely go for crap exchanges to cut short their spendings, newbies should stay away from low exchanges because they always ruin a coin life in a short time
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others

Some developers however can't do that, because even they aren't genuine; check this out, how can you develop a project then watch it die? It means there wasn't anything good about the project in the first place. Now on the part of investors, once they try participating in a project and realized it is getting listed or doing IEO on bad exchanges they will just take their leave because they have had past experiences with those exchanges. Like you also pointed out, listing fee can be an issue but there are still good exchanges that doesn't require huge listing fee.
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investors are invading some exchanges why not developers? i know listing fee can be huge but few exchanges are just scam practitioners, developers should take their time to check out scam accusation thread on this forum and see how many people are been ripped off by these so called exchanges e.g idax p2pb2b among others
Developers have to be choosy on choosing exchange because investors are now taking care on buying a token/coin especially if its listed on a shit exchange. There are good exchanges that only ask for a small fees and that can be the best option for a developer. Small exchanges are too risky for the big investors and the project development must consider this one. Well, I got your point and its really frustrating to see a token on a dying exchange.
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Scam projects list on small exchanges to fulfill their aims at low cost, if you don't know then you should know that good projects always have good capital and private investors too so it will be easy for them to list on big exchange
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