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Topic: Investors wishes for rise of market price to make profits, So how about Traders? (Read 529 times)

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Traders don't have anything with whatever the investors like to say because they're also one of them. They trade for their daily profits while they have some funds on the side being kept for them to also profit from the market by just holding it. And with any market conditions, the traders can profit to the market whether it's from spot or if it's from the futures. They are flexible and they can do whatever they can. All they have to do is to make sure that they are aware of the market sentiments and proper chart reading and they're good to go.
The good thing about experienced traders is that they can make potential profits regardless if the market is bullish or bearish. Their risk management and how they perform their strategies in the market will definitely tell if their actions would be profitable or not.

However, with less skillful traders, they are the ones at risk of losses while in the trading process. But with experience and new strategies learned from old traders, these new traders will learn to lessen their losses and increase their profit potentials in the market.
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They can make money regardless of the market situation and cycle that we are in. They can read the patterns, charts and analyze it based on their experience and knowledge about trading and the market. That's the advantage that they have. While for investors, they also have the advantage by buying bulk and selling bulk effortlessly by simply doing accumulation over the period of time. And that's why it pays off to be on the both side and if you are one of them, you're blessed because you can make quick profits and at the same time you have a goal with long term.
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Traders don't have anything with whatever the investors like to say because they're also one of them. They trade for their daily profits while they have some funds on the side being kept for them to also profit from the market by just holding it. And with any market conditions, the traders can profit to the market whether it's from spot or if it's from the futures. They are flexible and they can do whatever they can. All they have to do is to make sure that they are aware of the market sentiments and proper chart reading and they're good to go.
The good thing about experienced traders is that they can make potential profits regardless if the market is bullish or bearish. Their risk management and how they perform their strategies in the market will definitely tell if their actions would be profitable or not.

However, with less skillful traders, they are the ones at risk of losses while in the trading process. But with experience and new strategies learned from old traders, these new traders will learn to lessen their losses and increase their profit potentials in the market.
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Traders also wish for rise because if the market always rise, it means you can make money without any risk, but being investors during bullish season should be better than being a trader.

Trading is really good during sideways, it's where you can buy the dip and sell high without need to worry you will lose.

During bearish, both investors and traders are in loss.
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Seeing the increasing crypto market price could be beneficial on the traders. However, risk tolerance and trading strategies could also be given high emphasis. If they have bought their coins at a low position, surely there will be guaranteed profits once they start selling their coins at an impressive price. The high price of the coins could open doors for profit opportunities especially for those who are holding long positions.

Furthermore, since there is a positive market sentiment, it will also open for new potential traders in the market knowing they are more attracted while seeing crypto prices surging. The only fear here is when correction appears after a long bullish market, these new traders will suddenly experience some losses which may lead others to leave the market and quit trading.
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No one wishes the opposite and what makes people to say that they wanted the market to dip is because they aren't holding any cryptocurrency in their wallets or costudy while those who already had are hope for the increased, on the contrary we can say anyone who is not holding would want to market to dip to achieve more coin at a free dispensation.

If everyone will wish for what will favour them and there periods that even holders will want the market to dip not intentionally but when it eventually dips then they will want to buy to add to the one they already have because you can not stop the dip but when it happens you just have to take advantage of it. And then people that have the intention of buying and the price is still high they will pray for it to dip so they can also buy, and that is why I said everyone will want things to go according to the way it will favour them.

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Therefore, what really matters is for the trader/investors to target the market at the right time so that they would hold and make huge profits when the market starts riding on a higher velocity.

Both traders and holders are always looking for ways to make use of the market because no matter what everyone things the market is still what everyone needs to actually succeed in the market. And holders way is total different from that of traders, the target of traders is usually long or short.
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Traders don't have anything with whatever the investors like to say because they're also one of them. They trade for their daily profits while they have some funds on the side being kept for them to also profit from the market by just holding it. And with any market conditions, the traders can profit to the market whether it's from spot or if it's from the futures. They are flexible and they can do whatever they can. All they have to do is to make sure that they are aware of the market sentiments and proper chart reading and they're good to go.
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Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?
No one wishes the opposite and what makes people to say that they wanted the market to dip is because they aren't holding any cryptocurrency in their wallets or costudy while those who already had are hope for the increased, on the contrary we can say anyone who is not holding would want to market to dip to achieve more coin at a free dispensation.
Therefore, what really matters is for the trader/investors to target the market at the right time so that they would hold and make huge profits when the market starts riding on a higher velocity.
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Although they have the same goal, which is to make a profit, traders and investors have different approaches and market trend preferences. Traders view market volatility as an opportunity. For them, the ups and downs of prices are what make trading profitable. Every dip is a chance to buy, and every surge is a chance to sell.

On the other hand, investors couldn’t care less about daily price swings. They play the long game, setting a specific time to sell—sometimes months or even years. Their focus is on dreaming of higher prices to maximize their returns. Well, it’s all about perspective, as traders thrive on short-term moves while investors bank on long-term growth. 
Investors and traders have same wishes, profit, but tasks for investors are more simplier.

Investors only have to purchase bitcoin, secure their exchange account (it's not recommendable to store bitcoin on exchange accounts) or better move their bitcoin to non custodial wallets, and secure their own wallets. They focus on long term profit and they have easier tasks to complete.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts

Traders want profit too, but they focus on short term actions in the market, that is more risky. Especially if they use margin trading type because sometimes they want to hold bitcoin with belief that in long term price will rise more, but sometimes they see chances to Short Bitcoin. This causes an ironic situation when Bitcoin does not fall after they opened short position, but continue to soar.

Their portfolio value increases because of the rise, but their Margin trading position is in big loss. It's painful.
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As others have already mentioned, it's the high volatility that serves as a benefit for traders.
High volatility is of no good for any investor but traders mostly look for such volatility to make a good entry and exit.
This us how they make money. If there's no volatility then their ROI becomes almost nothing.
Although they have the same goal, which is to make a profit, traders and investors have different approaches and market trend preferences. Traders view market volatility as an opportunity. For them, the ups and downs of prices are what make trading profitable. Every dip is a chance to buy, and every surge is a chance to sell.

On the other hand, investors couldn’t care less about daily price swings. They play the long game, setting a specific time to sell—sometimes months or even years. Their focus is on dreaming of higher prices to maximize their returns. Well, it’s all about perspective, as traders thrive on short-term moves while investors bank on long-term growth. 
legendary
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It's a risk/reward type of deal, where you trade the stability of your investment for being able to play around much more than just holding and waiting it out.
Investors are mostly long term. But there are short term investors as well.

Traders are mostly short term in the common use of the word. But then there are long term holders out there too. In the perspective of bitcoin, long term holding seems like the better idea to be able to profit off the bull runs over years.

Short term is more risky in trading. I think both want the price to rise in the long term and traders want more daily ups and down which investors would not like.
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Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

Investors buy when the market is low, hold for a long time, and wish for the market to keep going up. For traders, the case is similar but a bit different. They wait for retracements and dips, buy when the market dips, and then wait for the market to go back up so that they can sell and make a profit. They don't wait for too long; even 5% per trade is more than enough for a trader, unlike investors who usually wait to get at least about 3x to 5x from their investments.

Trading can sometimes be more profitable than investing and holding because in trading, you can take quick profits and continue doing that as long as the market conditions allow you. Making a few trades a day and securing about 10% to 15% profits is more than enough because with that average, you can get more than 300% a month easily but only if you can do it effectively.

Many traders fail in trading because they don't understand the market very well. So market knowledge is extremely important for this.

It's a risk/reward type of deal, where you trade the stability of your investment for being able to play around much more than just holding and waiting it out.
I would choose to hold all day and night, however, I also see why many people become interested in trading and the markers for it.
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Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

Investors buy when the market is low, hold for a long time, and wish for the market to keep going up. For traders, the case is similar but a bit different. They wait for retracements and dips, buy when the market dips, and then wait for the market to go back up so that they can sell and make a profit. They don't wait for too long; even 5% per trade is more than enough for a trader, unlike investors who usually wait to get at least about 3x to 5x from their investments.

Trading can sometimes be more profitable than investing and holding because in trading, you can take quick profits and continue doing that as long as the market conditions allow you. Making a few trades a day and securing about 10% to 15% profits is more than enough because with that average, you can get more than 300% a month easily but only if you can do it effectively.

Many traders fail in trading because they don't understand the market very well. So market knowledge is extremely important for this.
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Smart traders embrace any performance they get from the market because they are dedicated to the business, they sport bullish move quickly before it comes and they also sport bearish move easily before it happens and because they are quick to sport the market direction, they usually know when to jump in and take profit and also when not to trade. They play smart with the market and are very risk conscious. So, the conclusion is that there are traders who doesn't care about the market performance, they are always prepared.
Well, this is what is very interesting. Market conditions are certainly not an excuse for smart people who work with good dedication. They always think they have time to do business and things are different from investors. They really hope that market movements will continue to improve with high prices in order to make a profit.

Experienced traders definitely know how to follow the direction of market movements when they collect lots of coins and avoid trading short because they know the risk is too big, most of them are also not constrained by market conditions, whether pump or crash, always ready, the important thing is to play smartly in every trade on the market crypto.

Like I said, they are usually prepare for the market swing and they take position depending on what their analysis tells them to do. So, they don't wait for price to surge before they mark profit. If the market is in a down trend, they only enter short position for every trade they start and when the market is in a bullish up trend too, they usually take just long position for every trade they make.

For example, since the market start to trend   upward, some day traders and scalpers have not taken a short position, but usually taking just long position.
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Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

Since traders are not holders, then there is nothing to boarder them whether the market is dip or high, because traders are doing it based on their strategy and how they analyse the market. Some traders will say the market will be in dip to some extent of time while others will say the market will be high to some time.

I think that is what traders do while trading, so you as a trader should be the one to analyse which side part of these two will be the safest side for because profit matters a lot, but if you trade for a long time, then I believe you will be looking for a trade at a high price because that is what will help you. Trading is not gambling due to the risk that is attached to it, but if you look at some part of it, it is just like gambling. 
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Investors are expected to be running the long term game, so they dont care about short terms losses but only about yearly or biyearly rise.

Traders on the other hand can go for short or long term. Long term traders are comparable to investors but short term traders will make use of every possible market move to plant a trade and hope for the profits. I dont recommend short term trading to newbies.

At the end of the day, both groups want bitcoin price to rise.
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Traders care about the volatility of the market and not about its direction, and this is because they can make money in either direction, what they really need is for the market to make strong moves, and this can only happen when the volatility on the market is high, this is why the worst market conditions for a trader are when the market is not really moving much, as each trade they open represents a losing position since the market does not move as much as they expected it.
Yeah, traders always look for high fluctuations against investor's wish of uni-directional rise. Even traders are able to make profits along with investors when market shows uni-directional movement, traders expectation is about catching multiple profits from multiple trades but within same price range. It means if bitcoin moved from 70k to 80k means, investors will make only one 10k profits whereas traders will make 50k profits given that bitcoin moved back and forth between 70k to 80k multiple times.

Basically traders do get better chances to make huge profits if they are equipped with required skills for identifying the exact turning price levels. It means huge profits are possible if have enough skills and risk taking appetite. Investors, on the other hand will make fixed profits yet with minimal risks and with no requirement of any specialized skills for catching price levels where market turns.
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There are actually questions one would ask and others would say "No" "You have bypassed this stage" meaning you are expected to have known what that is and so you are not supposed to ask such question.
There are varies of common knowledges we might have skipped off the mind or never been aware of it in the process of our learning.
So this does not matter your level of profession if having to ask such basic or primary question while you have become a professional or an expert.
I am saying this because there are certain questions some highily ranked memebers in the forum do ask which some other users in the forum would lash bad at them on why should they ask such a basic question that even newbies could be knowledge about.

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?
Traders care about the volatility of the market and not about its direction, and this is because they can make money in either direction, what they really need is for the market to make strong moves, and this can only happen when the volatility on the market is high, this is why the worst market conditions for a trader are when the market is not really moving much, as each trade they open represents a losing position since the market does not move as much as they expected it.
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When bitcoin or any cryptocurrency coin is rising everyone that is holding is definitely going to earn and once you buy coins to hold them you are basically called an investor or a long swing trader but investor is the most simplified name. When we refer to traders we actually are talking about those future or perpetual traders and they can possibly also be in losing position even if the market is pumping up. The reason is because they might have gone short on their trade and when the market changes structure and started pumping their sell option is usually in loss. This is the reason why you see many traders still getting liquidated in a pumping market.
They can avoids the liquidation if they know how to analyze the market because the problem that traders face are the difficulty to analyze the market moves. Many of them don't think about hold themselves when the price increase for some percent but they will enter to the market and hopes they can make a profit.

If they don't analyze deeper of what happen to the market, they will enter in a wrong time. That can affect to their position so they can not make a profit. But the investors can calm down because their target will be a middle or long term so when the market fluctuate, they can still wait and even they can accumulate more.

It is not easy to be a trader because we must learn more about trading and analyze so we can know what we need to do when the market fluctuate. We can not directly enter to the market without any analyzing because we will be in a wrong time.
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If investors want the market price to rise in order to make a profit, traders like investors want the price to rise in order to make a profit. Market growth is positive for both investors and traders. For those who trade, be it day trading or long time trading, when the market goes up they sell and when there is a little dumping they buy again and wait for the market to go up. Here, the main objective is to earn profit. If they reach that particular target, they can sell their investment and wait to buy at a lower price. At the moment I am making a small profit from the business. If there is a little dumping in the market, I buy from there, if the market increases, I sell. Traders like us here always wish the market to grow.
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Smart traders embrace any performance they get from the market because they are dedicated to the business, they sport bullish move quickly before it comes and they also sport bearish move easily before it happens and because they are quick to sport the market direction, they usually know when to jump in and take profit and also when not to trade. They play smart with the market and are very risk conscious. So, the conclusion is that there are traders who doesn't care about the market performance, they are always prepared.
Well, this is what is very interesting. Market conditions are certainly not an excuse for smart people who work with good dedication. They always think they have time to do business and things are different from investors. They really hope that market movements will continue to improve with high prices in order to make a profit.

Experienced traders definitely know how to follow the direction of market movements when they collect lots of coins and avoid trading short because they know the risk is too big, most of them are also not constrained by market conditions, whether pump or crash, always ready, the important thing is to play smartly in every trade on the market crypto.
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