Investors wishes for rise of market price to make profits, So how about Traders? - page 2.

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trader always seek volatility, price going up and down in fast manner is a good opportunity, pretty sure whenever BTC short squeeze the market in this bullrun hundred millions of dollar getting liquidated, sometime billions, meaning the trader gets rekt.

so i have opinion that trader won't really like current rise of market price

this is why in the bullrun some people have the opinion that just holding is the way to make maximum profit, trading on the other hand just gives unnecessary complexities just to get sidelined.

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Quote from: Text on November 08, 2024, 05:45:45 PM

Traders tend to work with shorter-term fluctuations, while investors are generally in for the long haul, aiming to profit from an asset’s overall growth over time. Traders, unlike investors, can benefit from both rising and falling markets by strategically positioning themselves with long and short trades, which adds a layer of complexity and risk.

Trading requires not only technical skills but also emotional discipline to handle the quick pace and constant decision-making. Investors, on the other hand, may not face this as intensely since they can afford to take a more hands-off approach, waiting for market cycles to play out.

Traders are exposed to the daily grind of the trading market. So they have tedious job to keep up with the market in order to earn profits. However, for investors especially long-term ones, they don't need to follow every move but they have certain period where they would want to cash out their investments.
As traders main goal is to earn, they are keen on applying the techniques or tricks acquired in order for them to acquire the profits that they desire. I believe, that's the usual mission of every trader, to earn as much as they can from their trading activities.

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Traders tend to work with shorter-term fluctuations, while investors are generally in for the long haul, aiming to profit from an asset’s overall growth over time. Traders, unlike investors, can benefit from both rising and falling markets by strategically positioning themselves with long and short trades, which adds a layer of complexity and risk.

Trading requires not only technical skills but also emotional discipline to handle the quick pace and constant decision-making. Investors, on the other hand, may not face this as intensely since they can afford to take a more hands-off approach, waiting for market cycles to play out.

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...Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

An investor who holds any cryptocurrency can make a profit only when the price has increased. Unlike an investor, a trader can make a profit on both bull and bear markets by opening a long and short position, respectively. But I should note that not everyone who considers himself a trader gets it.

I'm no doubt. Trading is just too technical and can be conspiring to emotional sentiments at an opened trade.

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Quote from: jcojci on November 08, 2024, 06:36:36 AM

What traders want is selling their coins at the highest price. But unfortunately, that will not always happen as the price still go up and down and makes them difficult to determine what will be the high price. But if they can make a target sell price, they can place their coins at the price they want so they will not be late to sell.

If you don't sell your coins, you will only see your asset grow in value but that can drop when the market is down. It is better you sell your coins at the high price you want so you can buy back the coins at a low price. Trader and investor is different so you need to understand that. Trader trying to make a profit by buy and sell but the investor hold their coins for a while and will sell their coins in a high price.

I think this is the wish of an investor not a trader, investor or simply spot traders are those that but the coins at there dips or any level and then wish for the market to pump. They benefit from the market only if the market pumps and the price goes up. Should there be a dip in the market their funds starts to drop also.

Whilst the traders as many regard them or simply future trades actually relies on both bearish market and bullish market. The traders here are enemies of less volatile or no volatile market as They make money only by the movement of the Market either dips or pumps its simply base on their trade setups. Trades can earn on a bearish market or dipping market by going short or selling while they earn by longing the Market on a bullish period. The trader can mostly go against their setup and that’s why you see traders getting liquidated even in bullish period that many thing is suppose to actually pump everyone’s money

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What traders want is selling their coins at the highest price. But unfortunately, that will not always happen as the price still go up and down and makes them difficult to determine what will be the high price. But if they can make a target sell price, they can place their coins at the price they want so they will not be late to sell.

If you don't sell your coins, you will only see your asset grow in value but that can drop when the market is down. It is better you sell your coins at the high price you want so you can buy back the coins at a low price. Trader and investor is different so you need to understand that. Trader trying to make a profit by buy and sell but the investor hold their coins for a while and will sell their coins in a high price.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

long term investors rely in the increase of the price of the market because this is the only way profit can be made but in trading a trader can make its profit even when the price of the market is increasing or decreasing. in the bull season when the market is known for increase, there is a time a trader can enter the market and still make good profit, same thing in the bear market, a trader can also make his profit from the increase of price that takes place during the bear market. investors who have been investing when the price of the market was low are expected to make profit in the bull season when the price of the market gets increased.

a trader is expected to get understanding on how to make profit when when the market is increasing and also in the bear market, this is why trading is very risky because one must know when to enter the market, not to risk losing much money in trading.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on November 07, 2024, 09:05:06 PM

there are different kind of trader, the one who swing trade and ride the train, always longing the dips and the one who tried to time the market.

the trader who tried to time the market, hoping for sudden dips usually the one that gets liquidated around this time.
so it really depends on the trader itself, if the trader is smart enough to figure out that following the trend is the best way and longing without shorting is the way, they would be happy to see the market going green.

Long all the way for me, for example - especially on this sentiment we are building slowly but surely Roll Eyes

The main thing is to adapt and ride the waves, as you said.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on November 07, 2024, 06:33:23 PM

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...Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

An investor who holds any cryptocurrency can make a profit only when the price has increased. Unlike an investor, a trader can make a profit on both bull and bear markets by opening a long and short position, respectively. But I should note that not everyone who considers himself a trader gets it.

But have you noticed that during the bear season, the trading volume in the market is very low and the liquidity is very weak, which means that traders are not very active during the bear season. Meanwhile, during the bull season, liquidity and trading volume always remain high, which proves that not only investors but also traders are more active.

As what is happening when bitcoin hits new ATHs and the market heats up again, many analysis and trading signals are circulating on social media. So it can be said that the bull season is still easier to make profit even for traders.

I remember there was a thread asking if people prefer bull markets or bear markets, and most of the answers were that both are important. But if people answer honestly, I am sure everyone prefers bull season over bear season because it is obviously much easier to make profit.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

Everyone wait for profit, and they don't intentionally wait for loss. Difference between investors and traders is, investors are more strong in their hands and ability to hold as well as have better knowledge on Bitcoin market cycle. Investors can have their plans to hold bitcoin in one cycle or more cycles but surely they have stronger hands than traders.

Traders in contrast have weaker hands and most traders don't care about Bitcoin market cycle and even don't understand about cycle too. Their plans are shorter than investor plans and traders are people who wait for price rise, wait for profit more than investors.

Investors can simply read news and get basic information about Bitcoin price, like once a day, once a week, but traders will mostly look at Bitcoin price chart every hour or every day.

Their endings are different too. Investors get profit, traders get losses.

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there are different kind of trader, the one who swing trade and ride the train, always longing the dips and the one who tried to time the market.

the trader who tried to time the market, hoping for sudden dips usually the one that gets liquidated around this time.
so it really depends on the trader itself, if the trader is smart enough to figure out that following the trend is the best way and longing without shorting is the way, they would be happy to see the market going green.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

...Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

An investor who holds any cryptocurrency can make a profit only when the price has increased. Unlike an investor, a trader can make a profit on both bull and bear markets by opening a long and short position, respectively. But I should note that not everyone who considers himself a trader gets it.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

They also ask for the same thing that investors are asking for, they ask for the market to rise so they can make profits from trading. As investors are asking so are traders. The only small percentage of traders that ask for the market to fall are those into future trading that they can trade in both ways of the market. It doesn't matter the condition of the market for a future trader although they're taking more risk than the regular trader and this type of trading isn't for everyone as some people can't just do it because they don't have the mind to risk losing money and when they lose, the becoming all unstable and this can cause them to do things that they might not be proud of that they did such things when they begin to get a bad feedback from the decision that they have taken. Traders are one of the fortunate people because they don't have to wait for long before making profit.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

From Peace: traders are investors too they take risks, buy assets based on their sharp perception and analysis for a specific timeline, and book profit according to their trade plan, on the other hand, investors put money into specific assets based on hype, fundamental analysis according to the expected growth in that particular sector or domain where they ignore the short term market movements and target a big point in the long run.

A trader and investor who does not use leverage and plays with plain assets in the spot market can also enjoy the bearish market by using stop-loss trailing and short-buying strategies.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on November 07, 2024, 01:46:27 PM

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Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

some also get profit from the decrease in price because they gamble that the price will decrease and once it goes their way they cash out. it's all the same.

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Thanks for your contribution. I was sceptic because I learnt traders does not have to hold for an asset as the investors but regularly buying and selling as the service of demands and supplies is required.
Definitely that is where the risks on trading is bestowed on because you as a trader is potential to sell at lost and buy at lost otherwise can buy and sell at profits too.
Literally it is unlike investors who may either buy at low or high price but must have to hold within short or long term before selling to make profits which makes them less risky to trading.
Aside trading strategies either to eject out from the market in cordial to stop lost or minimizing losses while profits remains the goal, I can't think of a particular nature in the market that the traders would ever wish for unlike the investors wishing for continues market price increments.
Maybe I am just confusing myself if I am still getting my views wrongly.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

In crypto trading it doesn't really matter what traders wishes for because literally everyone has their trading strategies, when you seek rise some other group of crypto traders seeks dips but what really matters is are you on the winning side? when it comes to trading if the market faces a new turn of either increase or decrease it's the responsibility of the trader to know his or her risk tolerance to either stake on either side.

Perhaps I believe everyone sometimes wants almost the same thing, invertors wants the increase in the market so as traders now it depends on the type of trade you choose just as I said earlier. long term traders also want increase as they buy in a low price and sell in a high price so once there is an increase they also profit this includes short term traders too. if you buy low you sell high and if you buy high you wait for am increase to sell higher it nothing more than this.

some also get profit from the decrease in price because they gamble that the price will decrease and once it goes their way they cash out. it's all the same.

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Quote from: Cryptohygenic on November 07, 2024, 01:00:45 PM

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

The rise of market can only affect traders under the inflation controlled economy, but not with traders who deals with digital and volatile commodities like currency pairs trading online, when market falls or rises, people are making profits depending on the winning sides they belong and this is quite different from when we are having the role and effect of inflation of the commodity market price, people will run loss because they were not prepared for this and no one is gaining as a result of the sudden hike in price through the influence of inflation.

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There are actually questions one would ask and others would say "No" "You have bypassed this stage" meaning you are expected to have known what that is and so you are not supposed to ask such question.
There are varies of common knowledges we might have skipped off the mind or never been aware of it in the process of our learning.
So this does not matter your level of profession if having to ask such basic or primary question while you have become a professional or an expert.
I am saying this because there are certain questions some highily ranked memebers in the forum do ask which some other users in the forum would lash bad at them on why should they ask such a basic question that even newbies could be knowledge about.

Please I come in peace, I love to know what does traders wishes for at the state of time to make profits in the market since Investors holds and wishes for the rise of crypto market so that their assets could grow on giving them profits?

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