Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 54. (Read 127596 times)

I make no comments about the rampant speculation here.

However you are clearly being dishonest here, probably in an attempt to bring down the price to buy in. Pathetic. IOTA has been in testing and optimization for almost 2 months, so it's clearly not vaporware. Also it's far from a marketing product, it's the worlds first scalable distributed ledger that takes a brand new approach (Tangle over Blockchain), it's also the worlds first fee-free token, and also the worlds first quantum resistant token, so please take your bullshit elsewhere.

I have as the founder of the project been criticized for being too anti-speculation, if our intention was in any shape, way or form speculation based on marketing then I would not be anti-speculation, nor would I be so scarce with details about big companies that are interested in joining efforts, instead I would hype it. As you should know (given your vast knowledge of IOTA), Microsoft has already teamed up and Wanxiang has given us grant. We've been in touch with Ethereum and Rootstock founders since day 1, none of them has found any flaws in IOTA and we are actively pursuing overlap with them.

I don't mind if you personally don't see the potential in IOTA, but please stop making blatantly false remarks about it.

Let's be clear. IOTA is just vaporware, and this is just speculation. Some of you will earn, others will lost.

The current marketcap is crazy for a project that did not prove nothing. Just words, hype and promises from the development team.

IOTA is more a marketing product, than a real alternative to any serious crypto project like BTC, ETH, or MAID.

Be aware before investing at these crazy prices.

And no, IOTA is not going to be valued like Ethereum, neither gonna produce a 1000 ROI like NXT.

Let's analyze the price of IOTA:

AA/ 25 X IPO price is not something crazy in crypto world, ethereum currently X 70 / NXT was X 1000 / Bitcoin itself got value X 10.000 and more since 1st trades thought there was no IPO as everybody knows.

BB/ even at 25C IPO price market cap is around 12-13 millions $ which is not THAT huge and crazy for crypto, thought it become important.

CC/ IOTA could solve scalability problem / quantum resistant issue (if you follow science news, you can see that issue is growing day after day), it is 1st mover into IOT payment as crypto and can work with other blockchain like ethereum (not competitor but more as partner), this is why I invested a little bit in IOTA as it seemed something really needed in crypto world.

DD/Why did I invest only a little bit as it is sooo good? Because I was a bit affraid of the possibility to really do this coin as it is promised, however now IOTA is on AZURE so a partnership with microsoft means according to me that the technology behind IOTA is working, THIS CHANGE TOTALLY the value of the coin. If I knew that I would have invested much more like most of the people I guess.

EE/Most of the investors of IOTA are on this thread and can already sell their IOTA via escrow and / or NXT AE, some decided to sell and the price where it becomes difficult to match buyer and seller seems to be around 25X IPO price, under this price at around 10-15X IPO you will find a buyer instantly, there was even a buy of 10 millions IOTA for 250 BTC.We are not talking on a GATECOIN exchange where only a tiny share of coins (ethereum) was available so price could jump,( finally the price now of ether is 5X more that it was on gatecoin before ether launch) but most of the investors could sell now their IOTA for a 10X profit for sure.

FF/Now we have 3 types of IOTA holder :

-1/ IPO investors who want to sell at around 25X IPO price, trades are not that easy at this price, but some happen (theses one will probably sell their IOTA on exchange at around 10-30 X IPO price If someone make the calculation of the number of IOTA involved in this situation we would have a clear picture but I guess it is less than 5% of total IOTA )

-2/IPO investors who don't even want to sell at 25X IPO price (most of the coins), theses ones will probably wait for higher prices to sell their IOTA 50 X IPO price  and higher.

-3/2nd hand investors who bought at 10-30X IPO price (theses ones will obviously not sell at same price.

==> if there is a lot of demand at exchange as  the supply will be low  the price could skyroket again.

To sum up my thoughts if you already have IOTA just keep them but don't buy more, however if you don't have any IOTA regarding the last news you should invest 2-5% of you crypto savings in IOTA now and the same amount at the exchange when available if the price drops, for me that would be a wise decision.
It is always dificult to buy 20X more expensive but you could miss the train and you will regret it for years whereas loosing 3% of your crypto savings will not change a lot of things....Look at ethereum if you bought it at 3$...

1 rule in crypto always have a share even a little share in any interesting project, a lot will fail but those who win will get 100-10.000X ROI

I confirm, I control the account NXT!! 

edited!!

Haha yep sell em while you can at 25x price before they hit exchanges and are selling for 5x IPO price...  It's almost cruel! Good job guys, well done.

Congrats to simpleth and wesgen!!

PM me or reply in thread to grab the remaining spots.
You can request a different amount from that specified (e.g. 20K for 0.5BTC)







#1: 10K IOTA for 0.25 BTC - naj
#2: 14K IOTA for 0.35 BTC- schnib
#3: 20K IOTA for 0.5 BTC- josegines
#4: 40K IOTA for 1 BTC- svensoncoins
#5: 10K IOTA for 0.25 BTC- Cizzen
#6: 20K IOTA for 0.5 BTC- DeeDee
#7: 30K IOTA for 0.75 BTC- zercrypt
#8: 40K IOTA for 1 BTC- Alon763
#9: 180K IOTA for 4.5 BTC- simpleth
#10: 20K IOTA for 0.5 BTC- wesgen
#11: 40K IOTA for 1 BTC
#12: 80K IOTA for 2 BTC


Instructions
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14147007

BTW, if you claimed the iotas by sending a small amount from that Bitcoin address then you can use the following:

Let's assume that your Iota address in the genesis (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14116556) is ABCDEFGHIGKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.
Go to http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator and calculate SHA-256 hash of your Iota address: fdc59b8d12a0f8cd090b44675822cfee8af03fc0b39cc91dc549d928dd36b8b1
First 4 chars are fdc5, swap the pairs to get c5fd and convert the number from hexadecimal to decimal format to get 50685.
Add 1 to get 50686, this is the number of satoshis that was supposed to be sent from that Bitcoin address.

NB: Some Iota addresses were claimed in another manner and cannot use this method of verification.

The closest to a 100% escrow right now is Yassin. I am selling NXT assets that are being held by yassin til launch. I do not receive the NXT til launch, you do not receive IOTA til launch. I can sing my ownership with the BTC key that owns the IOTA. That's about as safe as it gets.

Ok sorry I was just going by the BTC value which was 950ish.  Anyway, ETH dropped to 5x IPO price after 1 day on exchanges, and then again to only 3x IPO price at the low point, and sat at about 5x IPO for over a month before this current rise. So I hope buyers can stomach a possible 80-90% value loss once this hits exchanges...  Good luck you 25xers, you are nuts.

That being said, if someone wants to sell for a reasonable price of 5-10x what they paid for this a few months ago, PM me. I'll buy some. No way in hell am I paying 25x ICO before it even gets on an exchange, and the rest of you better use some judgement.

IOTA raised 1337 BTC (including JINN tokens). Just making sure facts remain factual

Ethereum is 60x gain now for the guys buying in IPO, Nxt is 10000x gain at the peek.

Why in gods name are you buyers paying these insane prices right now by the way? 25x ICO price pre-release?

just a heads up there are scammers around here.

1) be careful with who you deal with, if the deal is too good to be true, it probably is
2) iirc iota address in the genesis cannot be changed anymore
3) always use escrow and make sure that the one providing escrow is who you think he is (i.e *check* to make sure that is actually the account you think it is). for example, "yassin54`" is not "yassin54" (encountered this scam attempt myself and LOL)

Good night all!! 

I will sell you 3 million for 75btc. I think you will be hard pressed  to find the price you are looking for since 40,000 for 1btc seems to be the cheapest right now.

The rate is lower, but I'm offering to pay up to 75 btc in one deal...

_mr_e sells at 0.00002500, which is 25 BTC per 1 mil.

Rando offer 0.00001500, which is 15 BTC per 1 mil.

I doubt Mr. Rando will find such a crazy dumper, but who really knows 
 
May be someone will sell his iotas cause he believe that Ethereum will make another 5x or 10x run, thus, rice to 5 or 10 billion marketcap 

Hi,
I represent a group of people who would to buy iotas at the rate of 15 btc for 1M iotas, up to 75 btc=5M iotas.
We would like to use escrow where the seller deposits the amount he is asking for. For exaple if we buy 2M iotas for 30 btc, we and the seller will deposit 30 btc each - if the iotas are transfered as agreed, seller gets the 60 btc, if not, we get all the btc as a compensation for canceling the trade + seller risks his reputation.
Please PM or post here your offers.

edited price : Now 1 IOTA/ 1.6 NXT

New Offers : 500k IOTA for 800 000 NXT (1.6 NXT/ 1 IOTA) with @AltcoinScamfinder  Wink Escrow Yassin54 mandatory

Details Escrow Yassin54 mandatory here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14166850