Yes, I believe this is a scam. Disgusting scummy a**holes.
But seems like they are getting their way though. Stupid people are buying into this crap and bidding up the price. Once these scammers successfully exit the trade, they basically have stolen billions of money from innocent people.
Topic: IOTA - is it shaping up to be a HUGE SCAM?? let's take a closer look (Read 3752 times)
March 21, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
Nobody. I'm just pointing out facts. Small steal insta ico are far easier to game than those that large well advertised one that have some POW too.
You wouldn't believe but I actually missed Lisk and it feels bad but I didn't missed IOTA, so I wouldn't say at all it was a stealth ICO. Finally, why would anyone want to have stealth ICO when a goal is to "scam" as much money as you can?
Gotta tell you, that your insults are empty, you're probably butthurt right now, but it happens all the time in crypto-space. Accept it...
You have to think more. Isn't that what your school teachers used to say to you?
If it is really beyond the realms of your imagination as to why devs may want a stealthy ico then there is nothing I can do to help you.
Please try and re read the thread then ask some sensible questions. Also if you want to be taken seriously as an adult then the butthurt, sour grapes and all other suggestions as to why the thread is here need to be dropped. If you don't understand the motive is irrelevant when discussing facts only then again there is nothing I can do to help you.
Try and have another think about it all.
The fact is a stealthy small ico makes it far easier to manipulated the initial distribution in your favour.
March 21, 2016, 07:04:34 PM
Nobody. I'm just pointing out facts. Small steal insta ico are far easier to game than those that large well advertised one that have some POW too.
You wouldn't believe but I actually missed Lisk and it feels bad but I didn't missed IOTA, so I wouldn't say at all it was a stealth ICO. Finally, why would anyone want to have stealth ICO when a goal is to "scam" as much money as you can?
Gotta tell you, that your insults are empty, you're probably butthurt right now, but it happens all the time in crypto-space. Accept it...
March 21, 2016, 06:59:43 PM
Seriously get help. I understand that you are pissy about missing out on a huge opportunity, but you have an unhealthy attachment to past mistakes. Let it go
totally.
March 21, 2016, 05:15:13 PM
There was a thread in the altcoin marketplace section where IOTA has been sold. Everyone was free to participate. If you missed the train then it is your fault.
No please reread the thread.
Unregulated ico with zero transparency is 100% open to manipulation to scams and abuse. Onus should be on ICO's to mass market it make it at least a little harder to totally game the entire minting for themselves. Else risk being branded a manipulated scam.
What if i took it to the extreme....listed it on the small market place for 5 mins and told nobody. I could say the same thing you did. All free to participate and purchase. What you didn't know about it ...your fault.
There needs to be reasonable marketing done and effort to ensure opportunity wide as possible distribution to avoid it being totally open to manipulation. Define reasonable. Ok well as other ICO's are doing. Anyway I've done the comparison to other big ones eth, nem, maid, lisk, ... iota lacking to all of those. Therefore not reasonable enough. Therefore very open to manipulation and gaming.
POW is may more fair and observable. If you will run an ICO with no POW make effort to mass market and give max opportunity else risk being deemed a scam. Simple.
If we had heard nothing on the main board about IOTa and it went to exchanges and no mass pump efforts just moving according to actual acheivement it would appear less of a scam. However since it is being held captive and now the pumping starts on the main board (which they never used before) whilst strangling supply we can safely assume scam. The onus is on them to persuade otherwise. Let's see how much longer it is kept from the free market and how much pumping is attempted whilst it's still kept locked down.
Strangle supply and pump demand....yep bubble time. That is what they want before the pop it all over everyone and move to nxt3
Dude What are you rambling about? And who made you the godfather of crypto ico etiquette?
I'm not sure that godfathers aim for equal distribution for all.
Nobody. I'm just pointing out facts. Small stealthy insta ico are far easier to game than those that large well advertised one that have some POW too.
If you want to refute these points then go ahead. Otherwise revert back to your old tactics of trying to personalise the issue and distract from the insta ico scam you're involved with.
March 21, 2016, 04:30:34 PM
Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
You should really do that, just to prove that it's not you who operates the sock-puppets.
P.S. maybe use one of your handles with a better reputation than "CIYAM".
March 21, 2016, 04:22:57 PM
There was a thread in the altcoin marketplace section where IOTA has been sold. Everyone was free to participate. If you missed the train then it is your fault.
No please reread the thread.
Unregulated ico with zero transparency is 100% open to manipulation to scams and abuse. Onus should be on ICO's to mass market it make it at least a little harder to totally game the entire minting for themselves. Else risk being branded a manipulated scam.
What if i took it to the extreme....listed it on the small market place for 5 mins and told nobody. I could say the same thing you did. All free to participate and purchase. What you didn't know about it ...your fault.
There needs to be reasonable marketing done and effort to ensure opportunity wide as possible distribution to avoid it being totally open to manipulation. Define reasonable. Ok well as other ICO's are doing. Anyway I've done the comparison to other big ones eth, nem, maid, lisk, ... iota lacking to all of those. Therefore not reasonable enough. Therefore very open to manipulation and gaming.
POW is may more fair and observable. If you will run an ICO with no POW make effort to mass market and give max opportunity else risk being deemed a scam. Simple.
If we had heard nothing on the main board about IOTa and it went to exchanges and no mass pump efforts just moving according to actual acheivement it would appear less of a scam. However since it is being held captive and now the pumping starts on the main board (which they never used before) whilst strangling supply we can safely assume scam. The onus is on them to persuade otherwise. Let's see how much longer it is kept from the free market and how much pumping is attempted whilst it's still kept locked down.
Strangle supply and pump demand....yep bubble time. That is what they want before the pop it all over everyone and move to nxt3
Dude What are you rambling about? And who made you the godfather of crypto ico etiquette?
March 21, 2016, 04:09:47 PM
There was a thread in the altcoin marketplace section where IOTA has been sold. Everyone was free to participate. If you missed the train then it is your fault.
No please reread the thread.
Unregulated ico with zero transparency is 100% open to manipulation to scams and abuse. Onus should be on ICO's to mass market it make it at least a little harder to totally game the entire minting for themselves. Else risk being branded a manipulated scam.
What if i took it to the extreme....listed it on the small market place for 5 mins and told nobody. I could say the same thing you did. All free to participate and purchase. What you didn't know about it ...your fault.
There needs to be reasonable marketing done and effort to ensure opportunity wide as possible distribution to avoid it being totally open to manipulation. Define reasonable. Ok well as other ICO's are doing. Anyway I've done the comparison to other big ones eth, nem, maid, lisk, ... iota lacking to all of those. Therefore not reasonable enough. Therefore very open to manipulation and gaming.
POW is may more fair and observable. If you will run an ICO with no POW make effort to mass market and give max opportunity else risk being deemed a scam. Simple.
If we had heard nothing on the main board about IOTa and it went to exchanges and no mass pump efforts just moving according to actual acheivement it would appear less of a scam. However since it is being held captive and now the pumping starts on the main board (which they never used before) whilst strangling supply we can safely assume scam. The onus is on them to persuade otherwise. Let's see how much longer it is kept from the free market and how much pumping is attempted whilst it's still kept locked down.
Strangle supply and pump demand....yep bubble time. That is what they want before the pop it all over everyone and move to nxt3
March 21, 2016, 03:09:43 PM
There was a thread in the altcoin marketplace section where IOTA has been sold. Everyone was free to participate. If you missed the train then it is your fault.
March 21, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
The technology itself looks promising but the valuation of the coin looks crazy to me. I believe the freemarket should do some justice/correction on the price once the listing of the coins go public.
March 21, 2016, 01:57:12 PM
Well he is right.. i am a Pervert.
You should see my OT / Topic i made on the "up & cummers in porn"
Or my POLL on penis length.. or hell even my Bestiality topic
Edit: I made one for masturbation too.
You should see my OT / Topic i made on the "up & cummers in porn"
Or my POLL on penis length.. or hell even my Bestiality topic
Edit: I made one for masturbation too.
Hahaha, that was a joke about "sick pervert". You didn't need to confess.
March 21, 2016, 01:50:39 PM
Come on cfb you can do better than getting personal.
You need to focus on the facts. Use them to represent yourselves and refute any claims made to the contrary.
Cfb wants to divert from the facts and draw you into some kind of personal fight with them. It's too obvious and eventually they have to retire since they will not want to discuss anything factual related to the ICO.
Yes grooming people for the scam. That's exactly what's happening.
When is release on exchange happening. You did hear bitshares are almost there with their zero fee transaction concept?
Well he is right.. i am a Pervert.
You should see my OT / Topic i made on the "up & cummers in porn"
Or my POLL on penis length.. or hell even my Bestiality topic
Edit: I made one for masturbation too.
But the problem is.. Spoetnik being a confirmed pervert does not make IOTA "legit".
I also think most of these guys will wander off and go quiet soon enough.
Look at the 55 pages of people all ganging up on me with my "Why Doge coin is bad" topic.
I had an army at me.. trying with all their might.
I laid them out one after another (no matter how many times they got up & kept running at me)
What is more satisfying though is i am seeing other people say they do not like the current batch of popular IPO's.
in their own words with their entirely different reasoning.
It's not even so much a "for or against" thing me for me as it is a "let's share our perspective" matter.
People think i just come to Troll but i really just came here to talk about Altcoins.
And yes it is entirely possible i could change my opinions on things after talking etc (why i listen to you all)
It's not like i come here and plug my ears and rant on ignoring people.. I'm all ears.
@Come-from-Beyond
I just have one thing to say to you buddy boy!
..show me your balls.
March 21, 2016, 12:24:49 PM
Some stupid post again. Ridiculous.
It's pretty obvious that the post was stupid, but it was stupid to such degree that it's actually very funny. So it's still valuable.
March 21, 2016, 12:14:20 PM
I agree. Please don't spam the forum with duplicate topic threads.
When I post the same post to multiple threads, it is often because someone spammed the forum by creating multiple threads on the same topic. It is nearly impossible to have coherent discussion that is spread across numerous threads.
When I post the same post to multiple threads, it is often because someone spammed the forum by creating multiple threads on the same topic. It is nearly impossible to have coherent discussion that is spread across numerous threads.
Emm... Is my sarcasm so subtle that really needs
March 21, 2016, 12:07:38 PM
Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
No, please, don't do it.
I agree. Please don't spam the forum with duplicate topic threads.
When I post the same post to multiple threads, it is often because someone spammed the forum by creating multiple threads on the same topic. It is nearly impossible to have coherent discussion that is spread across numerous threads.
As one person that would make perfect sense - but as IOTA is not "one person" that makes no sense at all - does it?
March 21, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
No, please, don't do it.
I agree. Please don't spam the forum with duplicate topic threads.
When I post the same post to multiple threads, it is often because someone spammed the forum by creating multiple threads on the same topic. It is nearly impossible to have coherent discussion that is spread across numerous threads.
March 21, 2016, 11:34:08 AM
Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
No, please, don't do it.
March 21, 2016, 11:29:48 AM
Hint - if you look at @CfB's post calling to reduce the number of topics attacking IOTA it is clear they don't really have many people at all (perhaps nearly all that they have are sock-puppets).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
So my advice would be to create ten more such topics and "wear them out" (it probably won't take more than a week to see them making a big mistake due to being too tired).
March 21, 2016, 11:27:03 AM
Regardless of whatever the original poster is talking about, I don't see an IPO given to a handful (or really any amount of people) as a valid distribution method for something that's supposed to be a "decentralized currency". The fact that Bitcoin never would have gotten off the ground using such methods means it's just not a valid idea. If all IPO tokens want to refer to themselves as centralized companies, then that's fine, but the legal system is not very conducive to those going public from your basement activities.
March 21, 2016, 08:52:39 AM
Haha, BTS' zero fees got nothing to do with IOTA's zero fees. The use cases for Bitshares is entirely different, plus we already won that 'race' if there ever was one.
What you don't seem to fathom is that we TRULY don't care about trolls like yourself. Keep making thread #81551 that everyone just ignores because it's blatantly obvious that you lie. Get clinical help for your mental disorders.
What you don't seem to fathom is that we TRULY don't care about trolls like yourself. Keep making thread #81551 that everyone just ignores because it's blatantly obvious that you lie. Get clinical help for your mental disorders.
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