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February 28, 2018, 07:50:23 PM
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I am not a technical person so I won't go into technical aspect, I think the team is solid enough and can work on the way to make the platform do what they promised it would do, this is just a warning to people not to over commit om a project because most of this projects are experiment and might not work
I would say this is the weaknest thing on whole IOTA, you have to be technical type to be able use Iota network
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I appreciate the talk, debate and the exchange of memes lol. Good luck to you as well and may you not take the blue pill and go back in the Matrix.

Our petty arguments are just that, but we are all fighting the same battle.
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Facts are more efficient than fud
1. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt listen. Why are Peter Todd, Ricciardo Spagni and others calling out IOTA? There has to be a good reason why.

2. Okay, but until the day they turn it off, it will still be centralized. True or False?

3. Time will tell. But lets be humble enough to admit we were wrong depending on the outcome.

4. Ty. I'm an obvious shill lol.

1. "Losers focus on winners," seems apt as LN is continually delayed and IOTA will solve scaling and fees within the next year if Dom's goal of 100-1000ctps is reached. What's funny is how no one notices that the uptick in FUD corresponds with the IOTA's release of more user friendly wallets (ask yourself why the article writer didn't wait for Trinity if he was intent on achieving his stated goal?). The obvious reason for these last minute attacks is that, even when the use case is limited to P2P (which isn't what IOTA is focused on), the benefits will be obvious: fast and feeless. Unless you trap IOTA in a bottle and stall development to the present, which marketing can't do (though a few idiots will drag old articles out like a nagging wife who argues from the past), IOTA will prove the best solution to the issues in cryptoland (scaling, fees, microtransactions). Add exchanges (exchange module) to the mix and you have a perfect storm of upgraded usability. But as long as people continue to blindly follow authority, they will stay on the sidelines and watch the flippening hoping that their masters are correct and the genie can be put back in the bottle.



2. True--just like until the day Bitcoin figures out how to prevent mining centralization. With IOTA it looks possible, with BTC not so much.

3. Huh? My point was that Fluffy had as big a failure of foresight as the IOTA Devs--there's no future outcome to consider. Both events happened.

4. Off-topic shilling, don't be surprised if it's removed. Also goes to my point on attacking projects for your own potential gain.  

 

1. Okay, I hear you. But are you saying that Peter Todd and Ricciardo Spagni are doing nothing but spreading FUD and theres no truth to what they said?
 
2. Thanks for your honesty, and I'm willing to give it a chance because you made compelling arguments.

3. I may have misunderstood what you said. Sorry.

4. Shill? Yes, but only because I believe in the project so much and I anxiously wish others would take a look. But I am not attacking for my own gain. I only believe that an off-chain solution for implementing tangles are better.

With that said.



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1. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. They may have valid criticisms, but the stuff they've been tweeting doesn't fall under that heading.

2. TY

3. TY

4. It's poor taste to post media of another coin when it isn't within the context of the thread--just putting that out there. Good luck.
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1. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt listen. Why are Peter Todd, Ricciardo Spagni and others calling out IOTA? There has to be a good reason why.

2. Okay, but until the day they turn it off, it will still be centralized. True or False?

3. Time will tell. But lets be humble enough to admit we were wrong depending on the outcome.

4. Ty. I'm an obvious shill lol.

1. "Losers focus on winners," seems apt as LN is continually delayed and IOTA will solve scaling and fees within the next year if Dom's goal of 100-1000ctps is reached. What's funny is how no one notices that the uptick in FUD corresponds with the IOTA's release of more user friendly wallets (ask yourself why the article writer didn't wait for Trinity if he was intent on achieving his stated goal?). The obvious reason for these last minute attacks is that, even when the use case is limited to P2P (which isn't what IOTA is focused on), the benefits will be obvious: fast and feeless. Unless you trap IOTA in a bottle and stall development to the present, which marketing can't do (though a few idiots will drag old articles out like a nagging wife who argues from the past), IOTA will prove the best solution to the issues in cryptoland (scaling, fees, microtransactions). Add exchanges (exchange module) to the mix and you have a perfect storm of upgraded usability. But as long as people continue to blindly follow authority, they will stay on the sidelines and watch the flippening hoping that their masters are correct and the genie can be put back in the bottle.



2. True--just like until the day Bitcoin figures out how to prevent mining centralization. With IOTA it looks possible, with BTC not so much.

3. Huh? My point was that Fluffy had as big a failure of foresight as the IOTA Devs--there's no future outcome to consider. Both events happened.

4. Off-topic shilling, don't be surprised if it's removed. Also goes to my point on attacking projects for your own potential gain.  

 

1. Okay, I hear you. But are you saying that Peter Todd and Ricciardo Spagni are doing nothing but spreading FUD and theres no truth to what they said?
 
2. Thanks for your honesty, and I'm willing to give it a chance because you made compelling arguments.

3. I may have misunderstood what you said. Sorry.

4. Shill? Yes, but only because I believe in the project so much and I anxiously wish others would take a look. But I am not attacking for my own gain. I only believe that an off-chain solution for implementing tangles are better.

With that said.


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This is why I'm telling people and my friends that IOTA is way overprices, especially at the end of 2017 when it had 14B market cap. The idea is very good, but a good realization is still missing.

I think the price will continue to decline and we may even see it under a buck!
You're joking right? Do you even know much great things are lined up for this year? IOTA will be added to lots of new exchanges (and maybe even forex exchanges) once IXI hub is finished, big companies like Bosch and Volkswagen are going to unveil their applications with IOTA. Furthermore, their Q project will be unveiled which is probably about dedicated ternary hardware and distributed computing. I think IOTA is currently the only project that is able to really start moving things, and the price will follow.

Just because "great things" are lined up doesn't really add value to a project, actually. If the first things that come to mind as "Great" is listing on exchanges, then you've really got to examine what you think you mean by a project's value. I know tons of alts that are listed on X number of sites. But who is using them for their intended purpose?

Bosch? Volkswagen? I hope this won't turn out to be another Microsoft "I'm sorry we retract that statement".

Iota is like most alts... starting to really move, but nowhere solid yet. That's why I think it's overpriced too (like a lot of others).

Exactly my thoughts on reading his response. From when adding a coin to more exchanges when it's already trading on Bitfinex, OkEx and Binance is "great things".

If a big conglomerate like Bosch or Volkswagen really introduced an app based on IOTA, then this will be big. But I don't believe it until I see it...
Well, the applications will come, don't worry. Do you think Bosch bought a bunch of IOTA tokens for fun? And do you think VW CIO joins IOTA advisory board just to drink coffee?
Hmm my opinion:
To be honest, i think that a lot of advisors join as advisors to projects in better case to drinking coffee. In worse case advisors just take some money and their names are in statements, it's only marketing, nothing more. There are definitely exceptions, i would like to know how many of them are 'working' advisors
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Bosch? Volkswagen? I hope this won't turn out to be another Microsoft "I'm sorry we retract that statement".


Yeah Bosch isn't involved with IOTA at all  Roll Eyes  I get it, the cryptoidiocricy jumped on a story and made the most of it, but please stop repeating it like you don't know any better--or maybe you really are that dumb. Also, there was never a retraction, except for the news-site that printed that lie and quickly retracted it when the Foundation pulled out their lawyers--maybe you need to learn how to fact check.

https://blog.iota.org/welcome-huangquan-jiang-to-the-iota-foundation-3a3835e0fc06

http://www.bosch-presse.de/pressportal/de/en/robert-bosch-venture-capital-makes-first-investment-in-distributed-ledger-technology-137411.html

https://twitter.com/SarahNizze/status/962231566666731520

https://twitter.com/iotatokennews/status/954045852439449601

And definitely no connection with VW (besides Bosch):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=chZsiDvU7Ak

https://twitter.com/johannjungwirth/status/955119052111872000?lang=en


We have to sadly admit that to find a trustworthy source of information is really hard in this world. Even if we follow official channels, we can't be sure that news aren't 'modified'. Sometime is enough to change a few words in a paragraph and the whole meaning is different.
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That's the most dumbass article i've ever seen. He just randomly trying and compiling stuff he doesn't even need to perform his actions.
At least do some proper research if you want to publish something interesting about a certain cryptocurrency.

I would say, IOTA is currently the only suitable platform for IoT companies to build upon.

How though? Are you just saying that because you're holding a bag or do you truely believe that? Even then, i'd rather know than believe. So how do you know it is ready for IoT? I've never been a fan of this coin but the delusion of people invested in this beyond my comprehension.

Yes I truly believe that, and I'm also invested in it.
When is a platform ready? IOTA is still in development, but they're already doing real-world projects (e.g. making Taipei a smart city). At least it's the only platform with the potential to become the de-facto standard for IoT microtransactions. It must be feeless, scalable, has a data marketplace, and already have a good foundation with skilled people from all over the industry.

Tell me what other IoT dlt platform offers this? The FUD about the bad wallet just distracts from the great technology that a lot of (especially crypto) investors never even touch.

Guess you will be suprised when I say almost every other IoTblockchain -dag company.

You mean like "the IOTA of China" that's nothing more than an ETH token? That's like saying there are a bunch of privacy coins, when we all know there's only one, maybe two (if I'm being generous), valid attempts at privacy.
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That's the most dumbass article i've ever seen. He just randomly trying and compiling stuff he doesn't even need to perform his actions.
At least do some proper research if you want to publish something interesting about a certain cryptocurrency.

I would say, IOTA is currently the only suitable platform for IoT companies to build upon.

How though? Are you just saying that because you're holding a bag or do you truely believe that? Even then, i'd rather know than believe. So how do you know it is ready for IoT? I've never been a fan of this coin but the delusion of people invested in this beyond my comprehension.

Yes I truly believe that, and I'm also invested in it.
When is a platform ready? IOTA is still in development, but they're already doing real-world projects (e.g. making Taipei a smart city). At least it's the only platform with the potential to become the de-facto standard for IoT microtransactions. It must be feeless, scalable, has a data marketplace, and already have a good foundation with skilled people from all over the industry.

Tell me what other IoT dlt platform offers this? The FUD about the bad wallet just distracts from the great technology that a lot of (especially crypto) investors never even touch.

Guess you will be suprised when I say almost every other IoTblockchain -dag company.
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Well, for me IOTA is actually still in its 'Alpha' phase. Sure, it's not working as it probably should in the future but when it comes to IOTA I think there's one thing that really makes it special. And that's the team (+Foundation) which is really good and growing every day. They are building great fundamentals here and I think a lot of people underestimate that. I mean the CDO of VW joining the IOTA Foundation Supervisory Board is just huge.
In this case you could really say it could be a good idea to bet on the Jockey. Let's see how the horse develops. I think IOTA will have a very strong Q1+Q2.
Still it's obviously a long term hold. Probably talking years here.
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Maybe he brought some just to make his coffee machine make coffee faster.
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This is why I'm telling people and my friends that IOTA is way overprices, especially at the end of 2017 when it had 14B market cap. The idea is very good, but a good realization is still missing.

I think the price will continue to decline and we may even see it under a buck!
You're joking right? Do you even know much great things are lined up for this year? IOTA will be added to lots of new exchanges (and maybe even forex exchanges) once IXI hub is finished, big companies like Bosch and Volkswagen are going to unveil their applications with IOTA. Furthermore, their Q project will be unveiled which is probably about dedicated ternary hardware and distributed computing. I think IOTA is currently the only project that is able to really start moving things, and the price will follow.

Just because "great things" are lined up doesn't really add value to a project, actually. If the first things that come to mind as "Great" is listing on exchanges, then you've really got to examine what you think you mean by a project's value. I know tons of alts that are listed on X number of sites. But who is using them for their intended purpose?

Bosch? Volkswagen? I hope this won't turn out to be another Microsoft "I'm sorry we retract that statement".

Iota is like most alts... starting to really move, but nowhere solid yet. That's why I think it's overpriced too (like a lot of others).

Exactly my thoughts on reading his response. From when adding a coin to more exchanges when it's already trading on Bitfinex, OkEx and Binance is "great things".

If a big conglomerate like Bosch or Volkswagen really introduced an app based on IOTA, then this will be big. But I don't believe it until I see it...
Well, the applications will come, don't worry. Do you think Bosch bought a bunch of IOTA tokens for fun? And do you think VW CIO joins IOTA advisory board just to drink coffee?
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The time will tell guys, but it is childish to say that Iota have no future, IOT must find platform to implement in society and IoTA is one of best bet...
Again time will tell!
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This is why I'm telling people and my friends that IOTA is way overprices, especially at the end of 2017 when it had 14B market cap. The idea is very good, but a good realization is still missing.

I think the price will continue to decline and we may even see it under a buck!
You're joking right? Do you even know much great things are lined up for this year? IOTA will be added to lots of new exchanges (and maybe even forex exchanges) once IXI hub is finished, big companies like Bosch and Volkswagen are going to unveil their applications with IOTA. Furthermore, their Q project will be unveiled which is probably about dedicated ternary hardware and distributed computing. I think IOTA is currently the only project that is able to really start moving things, and the price will follow.

Just because "great things" are lined up doesn't really add value to a project, actually. If the first things that come to mind as "Great" is listing on exchanges, then you've really got to examine what you think you mean by a project's value. I know tons of alts that are listed on X number of sites. But who is using them for their intended purpose?

Bosch? Volkswagen? I hope this won't turn out to be another Microsoft "I'm sorry we retract that statement".

Iota is like most alts... starting to really move, but nowhere solid yet. That's why I think it's overpriced too (like a lot of others).

Exactly my thoughts on reading his response. From when adding a coin to more exchanges when it's already trading on Bitfinex, OkEx and Binance is "great things".

If a big conglomerate like Bosch or Volkswagen really introduced an app based on IOTA, then this will be big. But I don't believe it until I see it...
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1. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt listen. Why are Peter Todd, Ricciardo Spagni and others calling out IOTA? There has to be a good reason why.

2. Okay, but until the day they turn it off, it will still be centralized. True or False?

3. Time will tell. But lets be humble enough to admit we were wrong depending on the outcome.

4. Ty. Dymaxion Dymaxion Dymaxion lol.
The plan is to first decentralize the coordinator this year, then the plan is to completely shutdown the coordinators if they learned enough about how the tangle behaves. Probably Q4 2018/ Q1 2019. Imagine all sensor networks over the world providing nodes, makes it instantly the most decentralized network in the world.
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That's the most dumbass article i've ever seen. He just randomly trying and compiling stuff he doesn't even need to perform his actions.
At least do some proper research if you want to publish something interesting about a certain cryptocurrency.

I would say, IOTA is currently the only suitable platform for IoT companies to build upon.

How though? Are you just saying that because you're holding a bag or do you truely believe that? Even then, i'd rather know than believe. So how do you know it is ready for IoT? I've never been a fan of this coin but the delusion of people invested in this beyond my comprehension.

Yes I truly believe that, and I'm also invested in it.
When is a platform ready? IOTA is still in development, but they're already doing real-world projects (e.g. making Taipei a smart city). At least it's the only platform with the potential to become the de-facto standard for IoT microtransactions. It must be feeless, scalable, has a data marketplace, and already have a good foundation with skilled people from all over the industry.

Tell me what other IoT dlt platform offers this? The FUD about the bad wallet just distracts from the great technology that a lot of (especially crypto) investors never even touch.
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1. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt listen. Why are Peter Todd, Ricciardo Spagni and others calling out IOTA? There has to be a good reason why.

2. Okay, but until the day they turn it off, it will still be centralized. True or False?

3. Time will tell. But lets be humble enough to admit we were wrong depending on the outcome.

4. Ty. I'm an obvious shill lol.

1. "Losers focus on winners," seems apt as LN is continually delayed and IOTA will solve scaling and fees within the next year if Dom's goal of 100-1000ctps is reached. What's funny is how no one notices that the uptick in FUD corresponds with the IOTA's release of more user friendly wallets (ask yourself why the article writer didn't wait for Trinity if he was intent on achieving his stated goal?). The obvious reason for these last minute attacks is that, even when the use case is limited to P2P (which isn't what IOTA is focused on), the benefits will be obvious: fast and feeless. Unless you trap IOTA in a bottle and stall development to the present, which marketing can't do (though a few idiots will drag old articles out like a nagging wife who argues from the past), IOTA will prove the best solution to the issues in cryptoland (scaling, fees, microtransactions). Add exchanges (exchange module) to the mix and you have a perfect storm of upgraded usability. But as long as people continue to blindly follow authority, they will stay on the sidelines and watch the flippening hoping that their masters are correct and the genie can be put back in the bottle.



2. True--just like until the day Bitcoin figures out how to prevent mining centralization. With IOTA it looks possible, with BTC not so much.

3. Huh? My point was that Fluffy had as big a failure of foresight as the IOTA Devs--there's no future outcome to consider. Both events happened.

4. Off-topic shilling, don't be surprised if it's removed. Also goes to my point on attacking projects for your own potential gain.  

 
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1. But that doesnt mean that we shouldnt listen. Why are Peter Todd, Ricciardo Spagni and others calling out IOTA? There has to be a good reason why.

2. Okay, but until the day they turn it off, it will still be centralized. True or False?

3. Time will tell. But lets be humble enough to admit we were wrong depending on the outcome.

4. Ty. Dymaxion Dymaxion Dymaxion lol.
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In fairness he did do the other reviews with some objectivity, and I have heard some BTC developers like Peter Todd have also expressed dislike on how the IOTA developers have tried to hide some things to the public. I didnt get into the details but it was said that IOTA is centralized.

Anyhow, I read your post history and you are close with the Monero developers. Ask them about IOTA.

I suppose Riccardo Spagni would also disapprove in some things about IOTA. If tangles and dags are to be used and tested, its better to do it off-chain like what Burst is attempting and keep the base blockchain "pure".

Things wrong with this post

1. Appeal to authority

2. Bitcoin is centralized, so Todd should look to his own house--note he also shit on Monero in its early stages and has since changed his tune. Nor should we forget that he has vested interest.

3. Monero community memebers were the ones who put IOTA in front of me (thank you). Also, Fluffy, should apply the same logic to early "No GUI" Monero as it had no fool proof security and mere difficultness kept noobs away so they couldn't harm themselves--same applies for early Bitcoin as it had no seed generator--can't recall if Monero had a seed generator in it's CLI days, but that doesn't negate the fact it was unusable for most speculators). What's missing here is the acknowledgement that the wallet and network are secure and no testnet was needed. Sure, only offering a GUI would have alienated noobs and kept them away, but the IOTA Devs stated very clearly that they weren't going to make the wallet foolproof and that it would only be barebones--I guess some speculators failed to grasp that this meant, "Be your own bank." Even better was there was no plan to release a wallet at all, but the community was so adamant about getting one that Devs gave in--this is a case of it being better if they had never listened to the community as the Dev's instinct to never take on the hassle of any wallet development was correct.

Of course we can play backseat dev after the results are known--where were all these concerns before it happend? Oddly, I can't find a warning from anyone? It's like no one could have forseen noobs trusting their seeds with random dudes on the internet. Pretty sure no one has really examined the Dunning Kruger level of the average crypto speculator--if they did, they'd probably pull all the money from the market and wait for a healthy correction as we sort out the projects that actually can achieve their aims from vaporware and legacy coins that hang their hat on network effects while bringing nothing useful to the table.

4. Hyping Burst at the end--way to show what you are all about, Concern Troll.



1. Its not an appeal to authority. Its an appeal to some people who know more than the average joe.

2. Maybe it is, but its not the same as how IOTA is centralized. You know this is true as long as the coordinator nodes controlled by the IOTA Foundation are running.

3. I didnt say community members. Some are just as unmindful as the rest. I said what do the Monero developers think of IOTA?

4. Guilty that I am hyping Burst lol, but the off-chain comment is also from Ricciardo Spagni. In one interview he said that he is talking to some business people in helping fund a development for an off-chain layer for Monero where all kinds of "scams" and token issuance can happen, but the main chain should remain "pure", just like what Burst is developing now.

But no, I am not a concern troll.

1. "an appeal to some people who know more than the average joe." is the definition of an appeal to authority--and is especially suspect when there's a conflict of interest. Although anyone who has read Todd's retweet of the moronic article in the OP would have trouble calling him an expert if that was the only evidence. Also, ComeFromBeyond invited Todd to debate his opinions in public, but Todd backed down. If he is confident in his criticisms, his actions do not reflect it.

2. Do you have any math that says they can't turn it off when it reaches a critical mass? I've looked and all the information is that this is how a DAG works--assuming you can apply the same logic to a DAG as POW is wrongheaded.

3. What do they think of that time Fluffy couldn't see into the future and trolled speculators (costing them money) and likely setting up a shorting opportunity for those who knew what was coming? Fluffy's shit stinks, he's been proven not to have perfect forsight. And if I apply the same logic to him as he applied to the IOTA Founders, he should be under investigation for securities violations. Now, my real  belief is that Fluffy was naive about what he did, so he is innocent, but I apply the same line of reasoning to the IOTA Founders and get an outcome of the IOTA Founders likely had Dunning Kruger (it goes the other way too) and thought the aveage user is more proficient than they actually are.

4. Don't care--good luck with your shilling.

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In fairness he did do the other reviews with some objectivity, and I have heard some BTC developers like Peter Todd have also expressed dislike on how the IOTA developers have tried to hide some things to the public. I didnt get into the details but it was said that IOTA is centralized.

Anyhow, I read your post history and you are close with the Monero developers. Ask them about IOTA.

I suppose Riccardo Spagni would also disapprove in some things about IOTA. If tangles and dags are to be used and tested, its better to do it off-chain like what Burst is attempting and keep the base blockchain "pure".

Things wrong with this post

1. Appeal to authority

2. Bitcoin is centralized, so Todd should look to his own house--note he also shit on Monero in its early stages and has since changed his tune. Nor should we forget that he has vested interest.

3. Monero community memebers were the ones who put IOTA in front of me (thank you). Also, Fluffy, should apply the same logic to early "No GUI" Monero as it had no fool proof security and mere difficultness kept noobs away so they couldn't harm themselves--same applies for early Bitcoin as it had no seed generator--can't recall if Monero had a seed generator in it's CLI days, but that doesn't negate the fact it was unusable for most speculators). What's missing here is the acknowledgement that the wallet and network are secure and no testnet was needed. Sure, only offering a GUI would have alienated noobs and kept them away, but the IOTA Devs stated very clearly that they weren't going to make the wallet foolproof and that it would only be barebones--I guess some speculators failed to grasp that this meant, "Be your own bank." Even better was there was no plan to release a wallet at all, but the community was so adamant about getting one that Devs gave in--this is a case of it being better if they had never listened to the community as the Dev's instinct to never take on the hassle of any wallet development was correct.

Of course we can play backseat dev after the results are known--where were all these concerns before it happend? Oddly, I can't find a warning from anyone? It's like no one could have forseen noobs trusting their seeds with random dudes on the internet. Pretty sure no one has really examined the Dunning Kruger level of the average crypto speculator--if they did, they'd probably pull all the money from the market and wait for a healthy correction as we sort out the projects that actually can achieve their aims from vaporware and legacy coins that hang their hat on network effects while bringing nothing useful to the table.

4. Hyping Burst at the end--way to show what you are all about, Concern Troll.



1. Its not an appeal to authority. Its an appeal to some people who know more than the average joe.

2. Maybe it is, but its not the same as how IOTA is centralized. You know this is true as long as the coordinator nodes controlled by the IOTA Foundation are running.

3. I didnt say community members. Some are just as unmindful as the rest. I said what do the Monero developers think of IOTA?

4. Guilty that I am hyping Burst lol, but the off-chain comment is also from Ricciardo Spagni. In one interview he said that he is talking to some business people in helping fund a development for an off-chain layer for Monero where all kinds of "scams" and token issuance can happen, but the main chain should remain "pure", just like what Burst is developing now.

But no, I am not a concern troll.
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That's the most dumbass article i've ever seen. He just randomly trying and compiling stuff he doesn't even need to perform his actions.
At least do some proper research if you want to publish something interesting about a certain cryptocurrency.

I would say, IOTA is currently the only suitable platform for IoT companies to build upon.

How though? Are you just saying that because you're holding a bag or do you truely believe that? Even then, i'd rather know than believe. So how do you know it is ready for IoT? I've never been a fan of this coin but the delusion of people invested in this beyond my comprehension.
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