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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2016, 11:55:52 PM

Quote from: DimidoffVany on October 29, 2016, 06:19:40 PM

Alcohol does not make people happy. He makes them bad. But the problem is Muslims. We have not to live and our government has no such prohibition imposes.

Anything above a certain threshold can be bad. Alcohol itself is not bad. The problem is with those drunkards who get addicted to it. But here, the issue is a different one. Iraq is a multi-ethnic state with significant non-Muslim population. A prohibition on alcohol means that the human rights of these minorities are being infringed.

That's right - a violation of human rights to free choice of products. The government has no right to make such bans. This is the same that ban in law to sell pork there.

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Quote from: DimidoffVany on October 29, 2016, 06:19:40 PM

Alcohol does not make people happy. He makes them bad. But the problem is Muslims. We have not to live and our government has no such prohibition imposes.

Anything above a certain threshold can be bad. Alcohol itself is not bad. The problem is with those drunkards who get addicted to it. But here, the issue is a different one. Iraq is a multi-ethnic state with significant non-Muslim population. A prohibition on alcohol means that the human rights of these minorities are being infringed.

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Alcohol does not make people happy. He makes them bad. But the problem is Muslims. We have not to live and our government has no such prohibition imposes.

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Arabs are being arab, again.

They ban alcohol because alcohol makes people happy. They don't want people to be happy because if they become happy, they won't obey their sheikh's shitty rules. Their sheikh is the only one who deserves to be happy. See the Saudi king? See how he trips with naked 19 year old girls in his big yacht? Don't you find it pretty hilarious while it's forbidden to do something like that for regular Arabs but not for the king? Fuck them all.

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How many muslins did you met in all your life?

I have at my university students that are muslins.

For them this is not a religion. This is a style of life.

Iraq is one of the greatest arabic countries maybe the best.

They are not stupid. You know? There is a quote: "normal means to be the same anormal like the others".

Not sure that I translated it good but it is ok.

In iraq christians are respected. Go and talk with people from that country. Stop reading international news with no personal value of that subject.

And about an above reply, they do not have smoke forbidden.

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It's not 100% wrong you know. Marijuana is illegal when alcoholics have caused more trouble than those people that use marijuana yet marijuana is illegal in most countries and alcohol is not. But I agree with OP that there's far more important things to problematize than alcohol. Apparently, we don't have to problematize their country's government too because we don't live there and it wouldn't affect us directly anyway.

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Quote from: wowanstrong on October 26, 2016, 02:30:56 PM

In all Arab countries, the problem is to get alcohol. The Koran forbids alcohol, but for tourists in hotels make an exception.

I know this, I've heard from my frinds travalling to the Arabian Peninsula that although it is forbidden you still can buy it in a hotel bar. Now I'm wondering will this be the case in Irak? Because it looks like they are going to ban the use of alcohol completely.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 26, 2016, 06:07:29 AM

Quote from: countryfree on October 23, 2016, 06:30:30 PM

Those stupid muslims! Irak is a war-torn country, with thousands fighting for their lives, while million others are struggling to make a living, and what is the iraki parliament doing? It just passed a law to make it illegal to sell, to make or to import any alcoholic beverage.

What a sense of priority!

the Islamic State prohibits the use of alcohol, cigarettes and other drugs. I am surprised to know that the government of Iraq did the same thing when the Constitution recognizes the rights of non-Muslim minorities and ethnic groups living close to the Islamists in Iraq

it would be unconstitutional? this law takes away employment of many people. How the government intends to compensate these people?

I'm not expecting any kind of compensation. Those people have just lost their income, and their job. Maybe the wine producers will try to make fruit juices... Production is illegal, so they cannot even produce for export. This just shows that the Iraki government doesn't care about its people.

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Let's not drink, it is their own business. They are Muslims and they have totally different customs. Fortunately I am a Christian and my country does not forbid alcohol.

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Let them not drink. Who is interested? I drink and I like it. My country does not forbid alcohol. For me the most important thing. To contain the country will sell more oil.

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In all Arab countries, the problem is to get alcohol. The Koran forbids alcohol, but for tourists in hotels make an exception.

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I am not a Muslim, but also an opponent of alcohol. I drink 3-4 times a year. If alcohol was not I would get hurt. Although I know what resulted from prohibition.

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Quote from: countryfree on October 23, 2016, 06:30:30 PM

Those stupid muslims! Irak is a war-torn country, with thousands fighting for their lives, while million others are struggling to make a living, and what is the iraki parliament doing? It just passed a law to make it illegal to sell, to make or to import any alcoholic beverage.

What a sense of priority!

What's wrong with that? Muslims have always been opposed to alcohol. Maybe it's right. He always only problems. In the Emirates too dry, but tourists can.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 26, 2016, 06:07:29 AM

Quote from: countryfree on October 23, 2016, 06:30:30 PM

Those stupid muslims! Irak is a war-torn country, with thousands fighting for their lives, while million others are struggling to make a living, and what is the iraki parliament doing? It just passed a law to make it illegal to sell, to make or to import any alcoholic beverage.

What a sense of priority!

the Islamic State prohibits the use of alcohol, cigarettes and other drugs. I am surprised to know that the government of Iraq did the same thing when the Constitution recognizes the rights of non-Muslim minorities and ethnic groups living close to the Islamists in Iraq

it would be unconstitutional? this law takes away employment of many people. How the government intends to compensate these people?

No government will compensate for this. The government do not care about people. It feels like they're just protecting their interests.

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Quote from: countryfree on October 23, 2016, 06:30:30 PM

Those stupid muslims! Irak is a war-torn country, with thousands fighting for their lives, while million others are struggling to make a living, and what is the iraki parliament doing? It just passed a law to make it illegal to sell, to make or to import any alcoholic beverage.

What a sense of priority!

the Islamic State prohibits the use of alcohol, cigarettes and other drugs. I am surprised to know that the government of Iraq did the same thing when the Constitution recognizes the rights of non-Muslim minorities and ethnic groups living close to the Islamists in Iraq

it would be unconstitutional? this law takes away employment of many people. How the government intends to compensate these people?

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Iraq like most governments have many things they should be doing but it isn't really my concern since I don't live there. Especially in this case when the most civilized of countries treat drug addicts as criminals instead of getting them the help they need. Things need to be fixed at home before I can go around criticizing other countries that i couldn't care less about.

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Quote from: tsaroz on October 24, 2016, 07:58:12 PM

How can they do that to their own people? No alcohol, no music, no kites, no strip clubs? If they are denying every basic needs, what is it worth living for? That is the reason people are trying hard to cross the Mediterranean or die trying.

No come on, nothing on your list are basic needs. I'm more interested in economic affairs. Irak's a pretty large country. There were assuredly some brewers or wine producers out there, and people selling alcohol, too. In Algeria, there are some wine producers, selling their wine up to France. I'm afraid several Irakis have lost their job.

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Quote from: countryfree on October 23, 2016, 06:30:30 PM

Those stupid muslims! Irak is a war-torn country, with thousands fighting for their lives, while million others are struggling to make a living, and what is the iraki parliament doing? It just passed a law to make it illegal to sell, to make or to import any alcoholic beverage.

What a sense of priority!

You better not poke your nose in their matters as the never interfere in yours.If they are facing war,it is because of stupid US because it had problem with IRAQ selling petrol to Russia.Now you have problem with there laws.Arn't they should decide what is good for them?

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Quote from: Leprikon on October 25, 2016, 09:28:23 AM

Quote from: startselect on October 25, 2016, 08:31:46 AM

I don't support a ban on alcohol. But a pet peeve of mine is when someone says they shouldn't be doing this when they have other bad things going on. As if it took all of the country's resources to pass the law.

That's right, alcohol is not the biggest problem in Iraq. It is necessary to solve more important problems, and then worry about the health of the nation

But how does working on one simple thing affect something else. Reminds me of similar case with the police. Something to the effect of someone setting off a bomb. 2 days later spots someone stealing potato chips from a store. He chases after him, and the thief gets hit by a car. And then people start screaming, "The police are going after shoplifter after there was a bomb 2 days ago?" It's a rough example, but similar to past cases. So what are random police patrolling around supposed to do? Let people commit crimes because something more serious happened earlier? Sound like a vacation for a cop patrolling around. Not going to do anything because there was a bomb two days ago, and some how just twiddling my fingers vs doing my job is ok, because something more serious happened. Keep in mind that there are other cops and the FBI dedicated to the bomb case.

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Quote from: Indijanos on October 25, 2016, 05:51:16 AM

Haha because thats one of the main issues right now in Irak.

You can't just change Iraq into a 1st world nation in 5 years. Iraq has serious problems but not something their leaders can solve.

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