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Topic: Iraq Isis Crisis: Medieval Sharia Law Imposed on Millions in Nineveh Province - page 3. (Read 6663 times)

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Didn't work out too well for us in Vietnam, nor did it work out for the French in Algeria and Chad; are you really naive enough to think that it would work out that way in Afghanistan if we just tried it one more time?
The French were fine with doing brutality on a small scale. It's just that when they had to execute it on a wider scale, they backed down rather than keep up with a campaign of violence. The US didn't really use reprisal tactics in Vietnam.
I was thinking more like Russia in Chechnya, the Bosnian Serbs in Srebrenica, or Genghis Khan in Afghanistan.
All very successful reprisal and violence-based strategies.
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There are big differences between that Christianity and Islam. they are able for compensations but at a much smaller scale than it actually happens. and from the religious point of view Christianity is weaker than Islam, much weaker, proof being their status today.
Agreed. Christians need to stop turning the other cheek, start beheading people in the name of their God, and seek solace in living in dirt floored hovels in between their calls to prayer to honor their God. Better yet, they should all just be killed in the name of hollow snackbar.
Personally speaking, I'd favor Western countries taking the gloves off when it came to dealing with Muslims.
For instance. Why not target Afghans suspected of collaborating with Taliban insurgents for reprisals? You could flatten the villages which provide aid to the insurgents, then execute the male population in a mass shooting. It would probably drive a more effective point home since they only respect extreme violence and force.

You don't think that wouldn't leave to more attacks against enemy combatants like 9/11? Keeping on giving reasons for revenge is a good idea?
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It doesn't work for us because we capture and move without leaving a stabilizing force behind.
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Didn't work out too well for us in Vietnam, nor did it work out for the French in Algeria and Chad; are you really naive enough to think that it would work out that way in Afghanistan if we just tried it one more time?
sr. member
Activity: 994
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There are big differences between that Christianity and Islam. they are able for compensations but at a much smaller scale than it actually happens. and from the religious point of view Christianity is weaker than Islam, much weaker, proof being their status today.
Agreed. Christians need to stop turning the other cheek, start beheading people in the name of their God, and seek solace in living in dirt floored hovels in between their calls to prayer to honor their God. Better yet, they should all just be killed in the name of hollow snackbar.
Personally speaking, I'd favor Western countries taking the gloves off when it came to dealing with Muslims.
For instance. Why not target Afghans suspected of collaborating with Taliban insurgents for reprisals? You could flatten the villages which provide aid to the insurgents, then execute the male population in a mass shooting. It would probably drive a more effective point home since they only respect extreme violence and force.
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
But the core of Islam is in full support of ISIS, which this thread is about.You don't see the Pope or any other prominent christian leader supporting warfare or genocide in today's world. Imam's around the world are in support of what is happening right now
I would strongly disagree, hell even Al Qaeda would disagree with you on that note. The ISIS is one of those organizations that even makes other Salafi radicals cringe theologically.
ISIS is a Wahhabist based movement, which is one of the strongest branches of Islam in that area. Saudi's, Qataris, and Emirates are large portions of these and they have DEEP pockets.
Not really. That's a pretty shallow classification of the organization. Al Baghdadi himself isn't a very strong theological leader and has had trouble organizing a coherent theological policy. They are much more so focused on the fighting and pillage of war, as well as power grabbing. It's one reason why they broke with al-Qaeda in the first place. They've never been particularly pious which caused Osama bin Laden to regret allowing them into Al Qaeda pretty much as soon as AQI was formed.

But, a couple of other points:

1.) The vast majority of the world's Muslims are not Wahhabi, so your notion that it is a fundamental aspect of Islam is a bit off.

2.) Being able to secure money from Wahhabis or gulf actors doesn't make their organization Wahhabi. that just means that gulf actors are interested in utilizing them to check political rivals in the region, which isn't a heavenly concern, it's an earthly political one.
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
But the core of Islam is in full support of ISIS, which this thread is about.You don't see the Pope or any other prominent christian leader supporting warfare or genocide in today's world. Imam's around the world are in support of what is happening right now
I would strongly disagree, hell even Al Qaeda would disagree with you on that note. The ISIS is one of those organizations that even makes other Salafi radicals cringe theologically.
ISIS is a Wahhabist based movement, which is one of the strongest branches of Islam in that area. Saudi's, Qataris, and Emirates are large portions of these and they have DEEP pockets.
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Just heard CNN say that the US and Iran might have to work TOGETHER to protect Baghdad.
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
But the core of Islam is in full support of ISIS, which this thread is about.You don't see the Pope or any other prominent christian leader supporting warfare or genocide in today's world. Imam's around the world are in support of what is happening right now
I would strongly disagree, hell even Al Qaeda would disagree with you on that note. The ISIS is one of those organizations that even makes other Salafi radicals cringe theologically.
sr. member
Activity: 364
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
But the core of Islam is in full support of ISIS, which this thread is about.You don't see the Pope or any other prominent christian leader supporting warfare or genocide in today's world. Imam's around the world are in support of what is happening right now
legendary
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.

1. Again, the Interahamwe targeted people belonging to the Tutsi ethnic group (Christian or non-Christian, it doesn't matter). Religion was not used to distinguish the victims.

2. Chetniks / Ustaše also killed people based on ethnicity. The Ustaše were even collaborating with the Muslims, to fight against the Serbs.

3. NLFT of India. Yes... it is a religious driven group. Receives a lot of funds from the Southern Baptists in the United States, and use them to forcibly convert the tribal population to Christianity.
sr. member
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There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
Once again, they would completely disagree with you. Just like you and radical Muslims ignore Islamic scholars who call groups like Boko Haram un-islamic.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
But the point still stands, these are perversions that ignore the teachings. On the Islam side, they are following the playbook. Mohammad was a General while Jesus was the complete opposite.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
There are a lot of Christians who would disagree with you. Once again, the interahamwe were perfectly content to both see themselves as soldiers of God and as good Christians, while simultaneously engaging in genocide. The same could be said of the Chetniks in Bosnia, or the NLFT in India, etc.
legendary
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Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc?

But you should also remember that 99% of the victims of the atrocities committed by the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) were Christians themselves. The LRA never targets Muslims, as it receives most of the arms and ammunition from Khartoum.
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison
Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc?
Yep child sex slavery follows fundamentalist rules of Christianity. The big difference between Islamic fundamentalist and Christian cult derivatives is that the Islamist are just following the Koran with their brutality and the "Christians" are just using the guise of religion to rape, murder, and kill which doesn't follow any Christian teachings.
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Their bleating that all cultures must be respected is such garbage.

"Tolerance And Apathy Are The Last Virtues Of A Dying Society" - Aristotle


Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society has been falsely attributed to Aristotle over the years. The true Aristotle quote is, difference of race is a cause of faction, until harmony of spirit is reached ; for just as any chance multitude of people does not form a state, so a state is not formed in any chance period of time.
sr. member
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They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison
Would the Lord's Resistance Army be a better comparison for you? Killing tens of thousands, kidnapping even more, marching in the formation of crosses, fighting with holy water, declaring a state based on the ten commandments, etc?
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
It's not a apples to apples comparison
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
They absolutely considered themselves soldiers of God. The people of the region tend to be very religiously devout, both those who massacre and those who are massacred. Simultaneously, the inclusion of their faith within their fighting seems to indicate that they were able to reconcile the mass extermination of human life with their personal religious beliefs just fine.
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