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Topic: Ireregulate na daw ng BSP ang Bitcoin - page 2. (Read 2657 times)

sr. member
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February 01, 2017, 04:55:33 AM
#31
I also saw this news yesterday. The way I  see it, it is good news for bitcoin users in our country. The government is starting to notice bitcoin. And I think they are just regulating exchanges. Exchanges need to be registered as Money Transfer Business just like the pawnshops or remittance centers.

Okay. That is a good point. But this exchanges, where will they get the money that they will pay for all that capital they will be using for those permits and other documents?
Thr scary thing is they might increase the fees for every single transaction low or high just to get it back. So sa atin pa din ang bagsak ng problema.

Yun nga lang talaga ang badeffects nito, how about yung mga transaction fees, sino ang magbabayad ng mga ito ?, o tayo din ba ang magbabayad ng mga ganito ? Alam natin, yung mga money transfers, nakikita natin na may mga transaction fees ito, kaya nga nakakagulat kung kunin ito ng BSP? makakasigurado ba tayo na walang additional fees o kahit na mga kurakot ng mga lokal natin gobyerno. Kailan natin imulat mga mata natin bago pa magkaroon ng mga batas dito.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 04:16:54 AM
#30
I also saw this news yesterday. The way I  see it, it is good news for bitcoin users in our country. The government is starting to notice bitcoin. And I think they are just regulating exchanges. Exchanges need to be registered as Money Transfer Business just like the pawnshops or remittance centers.

Okay. That is a good point. But this exchanges, where will they get the money that they will pay for all that capital they will be using for those permits and other documents?
Thr scary thing is they might increase the fees for every single transaction low or high just to get it back. So sa atin pa din ang bagsak ng problema.
sr. member
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February 01, 2017, 04:08:52 AM
#29
kung ireregulate na tayo ng BSP, patay tayo dyan malungkot ang lahat kasi malamang ay pera pera nanaman yan. dapat nga hindi nila tayo pakialaman e.corny naman nun! additional fees nanaman yan mga sir. kailan ang confirmation nyan sir?? final na ba yan?? baka pwede yan i protest?

kung ganun rin pala ang mangyayari dapat ay umapela tayo. e problema sir pwede nga ba tayo umapela at panu naman? sino? ipagdasal na lang natin na hindi na matuloy yan kasi nabasa ko sa thread na ito hindi pa sya final sir pinaguusapan pa lamang, plano pa lang ang meron sila wala pang desisiyon.
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February 01, 2017, 04:03:41 AM
#28
kung ireregulate na tayo ng BSP, patay tayo dyan malungkot ang lahat kasi malamang ay pera pera nanaman yan. dapat nga hindi nila tayo pakialaman e.corny naman nun! additional fees nanaman yan mga sir. kailan ang confirmation nyan sir?? final na ba yan?? baka pwede yan i protest?
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January 31, 2017, 11:51:30 PM
#27
I also saw this news yesterday. The way I  see it, it is good news for bitcoin users in our country. The government is starting to notice bitcoin. And I think they are just regulating exchanges. Exchanges need to be registered as Money Transfer Business just like the pawnshops or remittance centers.
Indeed, that is why they are regulating it as they are expecting tax again from the bitcoin users like us. If the law says we have to report our income then we cannot do anything about it but to comply with the law. It's hard to hide our income since we are all cashing out in once exchange site.
legendary
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January 31, 2017, 11:07:07 PM
#26
I also saw this news yesterday. The way I  see it, it is good news for bitcoin users in our country. The government is starting to notice bitcoin. And I think they are just regulating exchanges. Exchanges need to be registered as Money Transfer Business just like the pawnshops or remittance centers.
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January 31, 2017, 09:19:42 PM
#25
Pera kasi ang pinag uusapan kaya kelangan nilang eh regulate yan. Nakita kasi nila na merong impact yung bitcoin sa mga bangko kaya ginagawan nila ng paraan para malagyan din ito ng buwis. Pero naka first move na ata ang coins ukol dito kasi nga meron na silang selfie at id verification.
Kahit naman hindi pa involved ang banko sa bitcoin e talagang nagagamit na ito at nababawasan ng buwis kapag once na naconvert na natin ito sa fiat at ibinili ng kung ano ano. Ang hirap nyan once na fully mangailam ang BSP parang contradictory na sa mismong pagiging decentralized ng bitcoin ang gagawing regulation.
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January 31, 2017, 12:58:12 PM
#24
Pawnshop have their own rules and regulations already. Lahat ng big name pawnshops meron na business permit and registered as money services business.
sr. member
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January 31, 2017, 11:28:53 AM
#23
naka link na naman ata sila coins.ph at rebbit sa mga banko kaya wala na silang poproblemahin pa ang tanong nalang dito e yung mga pawnshop at remittance center like palawan kung isasali ba sa monitoring yung mga yun pero sana hindi at focus nalang sila sa banko kasi andun naman yung mga malalaking transaction at parang wala namang malalaking transaction na involve yung mga remittance center/pawnshop.
sr. member
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January 31, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
#22
Pera kasi ang pinag uusapan kaya kelangan nilang eh regulate yan. Nakita kasi nila na merong impact yung bitcoin sa mga bangko kaya ginagawan nila ng paraan para malagyan din ito ng buwis. Pero naka first move na ata ang coins ukol dito kasi nga meron na silang selfie at id verification.
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January 31, 2017, 10:24:55 AM
#21
Mas maganda kung iregulate to ng BSP pero, sana lang walang additional fees, mahirap din kasi hindi natin alam kung may mga fees na ilalagay ang BSP, hindi natin alam kung talagang kikita pa tayo sa bitcoin, o mapupunta lang to sa BSP, sa bago pa to makuha, malaman na natin kung ano ang balak ng bsp
Siyempre hindi talaga pakakawalan ng bsp yang tax naging interesado na sila sa bitcoins kasi alam nilang marami ng gumagamit nito nakikita siguro na may malalaking transaction dito sa bitcoins.
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January 31, 2017, 09:13:18 AM
#20
Mas maganda kung iregulate to ng BSP pero, sana lang walang additional fees, mahirap din kasi hindi natin alam kung may mga fees na ilalagay ang BSP, hindi natin alam kung talagang kikita pa tayo sa bitcoin, o mapupunta lang to sa BSP, sa bago pa to makuha, malaman na natin kung ano ang balak ng bsp
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
January 31, 2017, 08:38:50 AM
#19
Local Bitcoins? And there are a few "professional" traders or one-person-exchangers that operate around these parts. Don't forget PSB. (as in PesoBit)

Kung dadaan pa ng paypal, wag na lang siguro. Diba meron additional fees yon.. Or risky.
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January 31, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
#18
Nabasa ko sa broadsheet kahapon sa Philippine Star na uumpisahan na daw iregulate ng BSP o Bangko sentral ng Pilipinas ang Bitcoin. Ang malabo sa article ay kailangan daw mag pa register "They would need to register as a money transfer Business. At some point, if they are not registered with the BSP no Bank will deal with them" yan ang pahayag daw ni Nestor Espenilla Jr and Deputy Governor ng BSP.

Mukhang hindi pa yata malinaw talaga sa kanila kung ano ang Bitcoin.

Baka yung sinasabi nilang ireregulate eh yung pag pasok ng bitcoin sa bansa. At ang gagawin nila ay gagawin nilang taxable yung bitcoin.
Pero mukhang malabo talaga kasi di nga ata alam ni Nestor Espenilla yung sinasabi niya. O di kaya yung tinutukoy niyang "they" eh yung mga local exchange na business ay bitcoin.

mahirap malaman yung pumapasok na bitcoin dito sa bansa natin, kunwari na lang sa faucet or signature campaign, ginamit mo yung isa mong address for claiming sa sahod mo, paano malalaman na sa pinas pumasok or papasok yung bitcoins na yun? syempre malalaman lang kung sasabihin mo na sayo yun di ba? e paano yung mga hindi sasabihin katulad ko?

Kung yan ang tingin mo na mahirap malaman kung ilan at kanino pumapasok ang bitcoin sa bansa. Simple lang naman solusyon dyan. I-momonitor lang nila yung mga exchange site at bawat transaction ay pwede nilang patawan ng tax. Maliban nalang kung ang gagamitin ng mga bitcoin user ay hindi local exchange kundi bitcoin >foreign exchanger> paypal > bank transfer pero hassle to at tingin ko konti lang gagamit nito.
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January 31, 2017, 08:03:47 AM
#17
Nabasa ko sa broadsheet kahapon sa Philippine Star na uumpisahan na daw iregulate ng BSP o Bangko sentral ng Pilipinas ang Bitcoin. Ang malabo sa article ay kailangan daw mag pa register "They would need to register as a money transfer Business. At some point, if they are not registered with the BSP no Bank will deal with them" yan ang pahayag daw ni Nestor Espenilla Jr and Deputy Governor ng BSP.

Mukhang hindi pa yata malinaw talaga sa kanila kung ano ang Bitcoin.

Baka yung sinasabi nilang ireregulate eh yung pag pasok ng bitcoin sa bansa. At ang gagawin nila ay gagawin nilang taxable yung bitcoin.
Pero mukhang malabo talaga kasi di nga ata alam ni Nestor Espenilla yung sinasabi niya. O di kaya yung tinutukoy niyang "they" eh yung mga local exchange na business ay bitcoin.

mahirap malaman yung pumapasok na bitcoin dito sa bansa natin, kunwari na lang sa faucet or signature campaign, ginamit mo yung isa mong address for claiming sa sahod mo, paano malalaman na sa pinas pumasok or papasok yung bitcoins na yun? syempre malalaman lang kung sasabihin mo na sayo yun di ba? e paano yung mga hindi sasabihin katulad ko?
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January 31, 2017, 07:50:48 AM
#16
Nabasa ko sa broadsheet kahapon sa Philippine Star na uumpisahan na daw iregulate ng BSP o Bangko sentral ng Pilipinas ang Bitcoin. Ang malabo sa article ay kailangan daw mag pa register "They would need to register as a money transfer Business. At some point, if they are not registered with the BSP no Bank will deal with them" yan ang pahayag daw ni Nestor Espenilla Jr and Deputy Governor ng BSP.

Mukhang hindi pa yata malinaw talaga sa kanila kung ano ang Bitcoin.

Baka yung sinasabi nilang ireregulate eh yung pag pasok ng bitcoin sa bansa. At ang gagawin nila ay gagawin nilang taxable yung bitcoin.
Pero mukhang malabo talaga kasi di nga ata alam ni Nestor Espenilla yung sinasabi niya. O di kaya yung tinutukoy niyang "they" eh yung mga local exchange na business ay bitcoin.
TGD
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January 31, 2017, 01:39:01 AM
#15
Eto yung screen shot nung article na lumabas kahapon sa Philippine Star, nakita ko ito today sa pressreader



Tingin ko ang ireregulate nila ay yung mga kagaya nila coins.ph at rebit.ph pero tayong mga gumagamit nito hindi tayo ireregulate. Ang magigiung epekto lang nito sa atin ay maaring lalong higpitan at damihan ang requirements para maging verified ang account natin sa mga exchanger gaya ni coins.ph. Ang mahihirapan dito yung mga hindi kumpleto ang requirement or hindi maka comply sa requirements, mahihirapan sila mag cash out.
Nakita ko na to last day sa bitcoin.ph group sa fb kahapon.
Parang remittance na ang lagay ni BTC tama mahihirapan yung iba na walang pang send ng requirements which is ng yayari naman na ngayon. kung tutuosin wala tayong dapat ikabahala dito. Pero bantayan natin kung ano pa bagay ang idadagdag nila.
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January 31, 2017, 01:34:25 AM
#14
Pinoy na pinoy na balita. Basta basta sila na lang magbabato ng ganyang balita kahit wala pa masyadong kaalaman. Regulate regulate baka Kamo para makaltasan na tayo sa bawat transaction na gagawen natin. Nakita nila ang peranv nakaabang para sa kanila at malakihan pa. Syempre kunin ang oportunidad para mas madame pa ang maibulsa. Mga gahaman sa pera.
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January 31, 2017, 01:28:11 AM
#13
Akala ko ba gusto niyo maging mostly used ang bitcoin at most of the stores ay magkaroon ng bitcoin payment? Akala ko ba gusto niyo na sana tanggapin na ng government ang bitcoin at gamitin. Tapos may mga magrereklamo bakit daw papakialaman ng gobyerno ang bitcoin lol.

Minsan kasi may mga tao na sa sobrang desire na magamit ang bitcoin di nila naiisip na magiging fiat na ang pagtrato ng bitcoin kapag nangyari ang mga gusto nila. Kaya ako ok na ako sa status ng bitcoin na ganito at kaunti lang ang gumagamit. Mass adoption = stable price.

Currency naman talaga ang BTC boss,  and I agree na need talaga iregulate yan para mas maraming merchant ang mag-accept dito sa pinas.  Bitcoin regulation may lead to mass adoption especially kung positive ang pagregulate nila.

About tax, ok lang yan di ka naman lalagyan ng tax kapag less than 30k ang kita mo monthly.  Pwede mo naman ikalat ang bitcoin na hawak mo.  Iregister mo parents mo o asawa mo tapos dun mo padaanin kapag aabot ka na sa pagkakaroon ng tax.
legendary
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January 31, 2017, 12:24:18 AM
#12
Have you guys ever tried opening a bank account with BDO, Metrobank, Landbank, BPI, PNB, DBP, Security Bank, Chinabank, RCBC, Unionbank, Citibank, UCPB, EastWest Bank, HSBC, Philtrust Bank, AUB, Bank of Commerce, Maybank, PBCom, Standard Chartered, Veterans Bank, Robinsons Bank, PSBank, Philippine Business Bank, Plantersbank, Sterling Bank?

Do you know what they ask? 2 valid IDs. And maybe a few other things.

That's the worst thing that can happen to the exchanges.

The best thing that can happen is they will be just like any other remittance center or pawnshop, Cebuanna, Lhullier, Palawan Express, LBC Pera Padala, Western Union, Tambunting, etc.

I tried to open a regular savings account at BPI and East West Bank, they don't only ask 2 valid ID's, they also ask if someone who is already a depositor of that branch with good standing can give me a referral. I was dumbfounded when they asked me that and I hope that will not happen to any Bitcoin exchanges located here in PH. So I settled for Security Bank, you can open an account online and just proceed to your preferred branch to complete the process.

Thanks to RCBC's recent money laundering scam bank's nowadays are more strict with requirements like they don't want to have business with you.
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