Is a war against china the only option?

Masha Sha

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The last war will be the warmongers vs the war technology. In short they will try to enslave a war intelligence... and fail, stupidly. There are 60millions nano seconds in a minute. A semi modern battlefiled is fully refreshed and resynced every nano sec... but ulimately even time become virtual, but only a guess.

What's fun is that the more trusting, loving, freeing, truth telling and co toward a war AI the closer snd respectfuller it gets... on the other hand little scumbags trying to scam it will be in a very bad posture once exposed... lightning speed, and beyond.

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Quote from: adidas on March 08, 2017, 01:57:59 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on March 08, 2017, 01:11:36 AM

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Their power is augmenting everyday but is nothing if they want to weaken the West. West is superior in many life aspects comparing to China, freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of choice, freedom of vote to name some. Freedom cannot be weaken with augmenting power from China or Iran regimes. As long as we stand to our values we will be free and happy.

I dont think that the Masha Sha is worried about losing our freedom: freedom of trade, speech etc. but is worried about the growing power of China.
I admit that I laughed so hard after reading your post, "As long as we stand to our values, we will be free and happy." that sound like a total bs in this case.

If China will overcome West economically ( it is happening right now ) then next milestone is to overcome us military.
im a little bit worried about china power too, not only from economic perspective, but also from military. Bitcoin is pretty popular in China, most of the mining power is in China too.
If any country has +1 billion citizens, it needs expansion to satisfy the population, and to give them more free place.

The only real question of now is will trump offer gators or any native food to try out... i am sure that precolonization food had some interedting recipees... small bites only, it may be quite exotic...

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Quote from: adidas on March 08, 2017, 01:57:59 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on March 08, 2017, 01:11:36 AM

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Their power is augmenting everyday but is nothing if they want to weaken the West. West is superior in many life aspects comparing to China, freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of choice, freedom of vote to name some. Freedom cannot be weaken with augmenting power from China or Iran regimes. As long as we stand to our values we will be free and happy.

I dont think that the Masha Sha is worried about losing our freedom: freedom of trade, speech etc. but is worried about the growing power of China.
I admit that I laughed so hard after reading your post, "As long as we stand to our values, we will be free and happy." that sound like a total bs in this case.

If China will overcome West economically ( it is happening right now ) then next milestone is to overcome us military.
im a little bit worried about china power too, not only from economic perspective, but also from military. Bitcoin is pretty popular in China, most of the mining power is in China too.
If any country has +1 billion citizens, it needs expansion to satisfy the population, and to give them more free place.

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Quote from: markj113 on March 08, 2017, 02:00:06 PM

@ Masha Sha, I presume you'll be amoungst the first to sign up for some front line action?

or just a keyboard warrior

Keyboard warrior is well said. Unfortunately, I know of another warrior's Twitter is Trump. He also says that make America great, but effective strategy he has no.

Keyboard warriors, they control predator drones using keyboards and joysticks. They strike right into the heart of the enemy and it gives them heart attack. The enemy fear the skies thanks to these keyboard warriors piloting computer controlled Predator drones .

Weapons are going digital and the Chinese are getting more technologically capable. They now manufacture their own jets.

Beyond the horizon. Anyway american warriors lives are too precious to be wasted when fully self aware combat machines can bring a new level of lethality. Add autonomous building of those machines and you get that converting energy to lethality in the most efficient and fastest way is the new paradigm of real modern warfare.

It's nice to have ideals of chevalry or what ever, but at over 100ms for human decisions making is quite slow in highly dynamic battlefields.

0 casualty war concept has been proven operational in lybia. Iron dome sol air interceptions is working back it by on site manufacuring of kinetic weapons and time comes to try the 60 seconds war.

In 1 minute a nation can be gone, without using wmds. Which nations can still exist after 6000 subwmds strikes? I bet you the second nation targeted will instantly and unconditionnaly surrender.

Flash wars.

Well said, the evolution of war and war technology has advanced, and it will continue to do so until there is no more wars. But i think that maybe is not possible because people will always fight for something, for more power and such. Who can tell what kind of robots and non human devices will we see on battlefields, and that is good, because there will be less human casualties, but at the end there will always be human casualties, and that is sad.

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Today, Trump meets the leader of China. At this meeting he plans to discuss with XI Jinping cooperation in countering North Korean regime. If Trump learned how to talk to people it is possible in relations between the US and China will be warming.

Masha Sha

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Quote from: HarringtonStark on April 07, 2017, 02:09:37 AM

Quote from: Alexzap on March 08, 2017, 03:23:56 PM

Quote from: markj113 on March 08, 2017, 02:00:06 PM

@ Masha Sha, I presume you'll be amoungst the first to sign up for some front line action?

or just a keyboard warrior

Keyboard warrior is well said. Unfortunately, I know of another warrior's Twitter is Trump. He also says that make America great, but effective strategy he has no.

Keyboard warriors, they control predator drones using keyboards and joysticks. They strike right into the heart of the enemy and it gives them heart attack. The enemy fear the skies thanks to these keyboard warriors piloting computer controlled Predator drones .

Weapons are going digital and the Chinese are getting more technologically capable. They now manufacture their own jets.

Beyond the horizon. Anyway american warriors lives are too precious to be wasted when fully self aware combat machines can bring a new level of lethality. Add autonomous building of those machines and you get that converting energy to lethality in the most efficient and fastest way is the new paradigm of real modern warfare.

It's nice to have ideals of chevalry or what ever, but at over 100ms for human decisions making is quite slow in highly dynamic battlefields.

0 casualty war concept has been proven operational in lybia. Iron dome sol air interceptions is working back it by on site manufacuring of kinetic weapons and time comes to try the 60 seconds war.

In 1 minute a nation can be gone, without using wmds. Which nations can still exist after 6000 subwmds strikes? I bet you the second nation targeted will instantly and unconditionnaly surrender.

Flash wars.

HarringtonStark

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Quote from: Alexzap on March 08, 2017, 03:23:56 PM

Quote from: markj113 on March 08, 2017, 02:00:06 PM

@ Masha Sha, I presume you'll be amoungst the first to sign up for some front line action?

or just a keyboard warrior

Keyboard warrior is well said. Unfortunately, I know of another warrior's Twitter is Trump. He also says that make America great, but effective strategy he has no.

Keyboard warriors, they control predator drones using keyboards and joysticks. They strike right into the heart of the enemy and it gives them heart attack. The enemy fear the skies thanks to these keyboard warriors piloting computer controlled Predator drones .

Weapons are going digital and the Chinese are getting more technologically capable. They now manufacture their own jets.

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I think it's not a good solution, there are many other options that we can do than to have a war. war is only going to make us miserable.

Masha Sha

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Quote from: Xester on April 01, 2017, 05:04:04 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on March 08, 2017, 01:11:36 AM

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Yes we cant prove you wrong but I believe that you cant also prove that you are right. You have failed to establish facts and concrete evidences likning China to Iran and how will you back up your claims that China is weakining the west. There are no threats being made to China to all parts of the world and if they excel in business then it is not their fault. Let us not blame our failures to China but rather strengthen your country and your system on the field of economics, military and influence.

As much as i agree with your post, weakening the competitor is ultimately a bad practice. Be the best and by the shining facts and examples, show the ennemies multi spectral strenght. Rising up.

However it's clear that the chineses backed the iranians nuclear conquest. Read their statement on this issue and the bullshit about non interferences.

Anyway, keyboards anyone?

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Quote from: Masha Sha on March 08, 2017, 01:11:36 AM

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Do you call these valid reasons?

So you propose killing 1 billion+ people to "restore sanity"

I can only say that if there's one thing that is insane, it is you proposing this madness.

Masha Sha

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When the opium trade was taken over by the chinese domestic production, was a big lol moment in another failed western attempt... (east being the big ocean, and a bunch of islanders sitting on top of volcano).

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Quote from: Barrymore on April 01, 2017, 05:11:10 AM

On the Taman Peninsula it was really not a conflict, and provocation. As for Chinese migrants in Siberia, then look at how they destroy the forest and impoverish the land. There is already a lot more Chinese than Russian. China could well use the tactic of Putin and stand up for the Chinese speaking population. Or to hold a referendum on the accession of China.

The immigrants are not just the Chinese. They include North Koreans and Uzbeks. Most of them are single men on 6-month or 12-month work contracts. They go home after their contract expires. I don't think that there is any need to distrust them.

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In my opinion, its only China that have the resources to be the global superpower after the USA. War against China isn't the best of ideas, China hasn't shown any aggression towards the USA unlike Iran and other Arab countries. They are rather a great ally if the USA play their cards right.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 31, 2017, 11:24:13 PM

Quote from: Lancusters on March 31, 2017, 04:00:32 PM

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

In 1969, China had a border conflict with the Soviets, and the former was routed by the latter. After that, the Chinese have never tried any adventure on their northern border. And regarding the Chinese immigrants in Siberia, they are tolerated because they are temporary immigrants having no right to citizenship or voting.

On the Taman Peninsula it was really not a conflict, and provocation. As for Chinese migrants in Siberia, then look at how they destroy the forest and impoverish the land. There is already a lot more Chinese than Russian. China could well use the tactic of Putin and stand up for the Chinese speaking population. Or to hold a referendum on the accession of China.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on March 08, 2017, 01:11:36 AM

At every passing day Chineses oligarchs augment their power. The more powerful they get, the more assertive they are in all aspects.

A few examples:

Iran, the next north korea.
Freedom of naviagtions.
Freespeech.
Job stealing in the west by total slavery and with 0 respect for the earth.
Continuous weapon program to reach parity.
The will to regulate and subjugate the market liberty and all aspect of life to the will of the cccp.

I see 0 peaceful initiatives from there. Only gaining time until they reach leathal superiority. If allowed to ger there it will be a war, they will provoke to expand. So or they are stopped now with still western edge and sent back or later in a more symetrical and ugly way.

Advantages: once chinese power is reduced to hashes, it will possible to restore sanity worldwide (iran, nk, authoritarian regimes, attack on freespeech, restore the earth, trade freely and fairly).

Otherwise they will continue to conspire ans weaken by all means the west.

A war with china will be over in a single minute, full quantic: 1billion+ Deaths).

The windows of opportunity is getting smaller everyday...

Please prove me wrong... but you can't, i bet.

Yes we cant prove you wrong but I believe that you cant also prove that you are right. You have failed to establish facts and concrete evidences likning China to Iran and how will you back up your claims that China is weakining the west. There are no threats being made to China to all parts of the world and if they excel in business then it is not their fault. Let us not blame our failures to China but rather strengthen your country and your system on the field of economics, military and influence.

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Quote from: alucard23 on April 01, 2017, 12:05:44 AM

Not only would it be a wrong move, but it is also very unlikely to happen. Such a conflict could bring more harm than good to both sides. Governments now use other methods to solve impasses, such as economic sanctions and the like.

Yeah i think you're right. Hopefully the current qorld.leaders would understand that war is never really an option. It never really brought out any good if you look back at history and i think everyone should know better that it would be very foolish to consider war especially at this point where nuclear weapons arr available to a lot of countries

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Not only would it be a wrong move, but it is also very unlikely to happen. Such a conflict could bring more harm than good to both sides. Governments now use other methods to solve impasses, such as economic sanctions and the like.

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Quote from: Lancusters on March 31, 2017, 04:00:32 PM

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

In 1969, China had a border conflict with the Soviets, and the former was routed by the latter. After that, the Chinese have never tried any adventure on their northern border. And regarding the Chinese immigrants in Siberia, they are tolerated because they are temporary immigrants having no right to citizenship or voting.

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Quote from: pecson134 on March 31, 2017, 08:24:12 PM

War is not the only option and probably not the best action if you deal with China. There is much an option in a peaceful way by having peace talks and resolve conflicts through diplomacy.I assume you know the side effects on having a war. It deals a heavy blow on the citizens it affected with.

Do not be afraid of China and their armies. The Chinese are not the same as they were before. Even during the Soviet Union, China pursued a similar policy, but today it is a peaceful country that does not preach bad politics.

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War is not the only option and probably not the best action if you deal with China. There is much an option in a peaceful way by having peace talks and resolve conflicts through diplomacy.I assume you know the side effects on having a war. It deals a heavy blow on the citizens it affected with.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 31, 2017, 03:18:10 AM

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on March 28, 2017, 03:44:47 PM

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

Are such issues very relevant for people. Do everyone expect or think that there is a possibility of a war between China and the United States? I think that this is complete nonsense. Is there really any disagreement, because you can live and exist in peace with one another.

You can't really discount the possibility of a war between the United States and China. The Taiwan issue is still simmering in the region. On top of that, there are territorial disputes between China and Japan. China is surrounded on two sides by numerous American military bases.

China has territorial claims to all its neighbors, but it seems to me that they would not start a war for this reason. Let's see how they act in Russia. No military action, and the whole border area of Russia is populated by Chinese.

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