Topic: Is a war against china the only option? - page 2. (Read 2869 times)

You can't really discount the possibility of a war between the United States and China. The Taiwan issue is still simmering in the region. On top of that, there are territorial disputes between China and Japan. China is surrounded on two sides by numerous American military bases.

Are such issues very relevant for people. Do everyone expect or think that there is a possibility of a war between China and the United States? I think that this is complete nonsense. Is there really any disagreement, because you can live and exist in peace with one another.

The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it is not going to get any better in the future. The workforce is ageing rapidly, and increasing pollution has caused the closure of many of the manufacturing units. And they will be no longer allowed to wage a currency war, with Trump being in power.

I am sure that war with China will not. Next economic war will not do. But the problem is that China's economy is slowing, it will automatically subside and the U.S. economy. To move production from China back to the United States and remain competitive with Trump will not work. Think Trump understands or begins to understand and does not know what to do. To win the election was easier than to govern. Welcome to hell Trump.

There are 81.3% "no" votes so far, the Blitzkrieg against China has run stuck somehow. Maybe most prominent person in charge been gone golfing over the weekend, again?

In something that you said I agree. But i don't think that its China fault that more and more job are done by the Chinese people. That is because they are the cheapest labor there is at the moment, and that is good for people who are paying. If they can get the job done, than why pay more... If someone doesn't want Chinese people working for them, that is ok with me. Free choice.

You're so wrong. In 2016, China had 68 submarines, compared to 75 owned by the US. Subs can patrol along the shores hunting supply ships and vehicle transports for months without the need to refuel.
A country that decides to attack never sends 100% of their forces to the front, but a defending one can, so we could expect not more than 80% of the US military (probably much less) to go to China, while the Chinese would defend with everything they have.
The States could launch an offensive against a small country like Iraq, that doesn't have a strong navy, but reaching the mainland China while being harassed from the sea would be extremely difficult. Even if they could win, it would be devastating for their military. China has over 2 million soldiers (active duty), which is the most in the world. To defeat such numbers the US would have to consider the possibility of losing at least 1 million of their own people and at least half of their arsenal. No country is going to take such odds.

Not going to be worth it in the least for the Western Powers, some may say the economy of China is ever growing and is going to amass to be something much bigger than the West could ever imagine. This is not something that I fully believe is true as people in China / government officials are just inflating the numbers of growth in order to make themselves look better.

A war between the US and China would really just be a complete destruction of all of China within weeks (days if we're feeling like Atomic bomb time) and even comparing non Atomic weapons to the US is also such a joke to even look at. China, alongside Russia are countries that have outdated military goods and wouldn't be able to stand up to the technology of the United States.

Not the only option though and really shouldn't even be an option due to the sheer devastation the west / US would cause to China.

You underestimate the us capabilities... if the world only knew, they would all surrender, and how to justify those expenses against the space aliens:).

Sustainable ennemy management doctrine.

Imagine a war between China and the United States. It can progress in to the third world war. Apart from a few neutral countries (may be India, Brazil, African nations.etc), the vast majority of the world population will be affected. That may be the end of the human civilization on this planet.

why was it posted? I am deeply shocked by the assassination of a rhino in a zoo recently.



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It's always hard to express oneself honnestly and not rationalize behind lame arguments.

I have nothing against eating what ever part of what ever as long as it's made sustainably.

I think that a legal, regulated market should be implemented.

1. Wild rhino will die, and the horns will be left by the wild.

2. It's possible to farm rhinos in china.

By making the legal trade the only source of horns china and asians countries will get their supplies, without risking the firing wall, rhinos will survive, and it would create a new industry.


There are no common values, as you try to define them, but a constitution and a bill of rights. Those are defended by the widest and most lethal force in the world, because those fundational text of the american dream permit the capital creation necessary to create and sustain it.

For example shariaists don't care of your values or text, only lethality stop them.


You know certainly the most important sign that the chinese culture left to future generation? The round with half black/white and two reverse dot? It's a message on the real force of the universe... and it's capacity to transistion from one excess to a new path. You read it in the old testament, how powerfull abusing city went to dust.

The more endangered or extinct species they are, the more the values of human lives drop. The west or who ever may just be a conduit to forces way older than the oldest memory of humanity.


Front lines, lol, this so old school... it's bh now (beyond the horizon) and yes it's with keyboards...

The West needs China as much as the Chinese needs them. Without the cheap Chinese products (especially the electronics and pharmaceutical drugs), the living cost will go up in the Western nations. This can trigger a recession, similar to the one we had in 2009.

A war against a nuclear superpower is not an option, since that will only bring MAD to any country involved in that confrontation.

Lets nuke every one, this world is no longer a good place to live in.

It is quite sad that as we enter into a new age driven by technology and a shrinking global village concept, we are also going back into the past as powers outside from the influence of USA are gaining and regaining more and more interest to dominate others. The prime example is of course China which is becoming like a two-faced monster...one face is all smiling and inviting for all the world to see its beauty and greatness while the other face is sporting a demagogue stance with all its plan to get more and more resources outside of its normal territorial realm. And my country is both a beneficiary and a victim of China's expansionist and neo-imperialist policies.

The Philippines right now is facing a loss-loss situation and the Duterte administration is really finding hard to come up with a win-win solution to this menace created by China. We could not go to war as it would only endanger the country's interest and yet we could not allow the continuing intrusion of China...in fact just recently Chinese ships were seen in the area facing Pacific ocean which is clearly Philippines territory. China seems can not be content with its own land and territory and because it feels it is mighty and can not be easily barred by anyone in Asia it can now do whatever it wants to and can easily twist stories and come up with alibis no matter how laughable.

really hard to say but now all the war going peaceful if war gonna start i think china will take action against it
but the main is the country open fire with china maybe just want their resources only

No, it's about the only thing that isn't an option.  In a war with China, when both countries have enough nuclear weapons to kill every single civilian in the other country, there will literally be nothing left to win after that pointless war.  I don't think China is quite as bad as people make them out to be, but even if they were terrible war between two powerful nations at this point would just result in everyone dying.

Greatest enemy of the west is west itself.

You claim that Chinese "stolen" jobs. How exactly? Wasnt it western politicians and corporations, which "outsourced" labour and technologies to Asia? Arent corporations and affiliated NGOs attacking free speech right where you live?

Or you believe that China somehow forced political correctness on the west? Poured millions of third worlders into Europe and America? That it created Iran or Russia out of mud and clay?

In one thing we agree, though. China is getting stronger and I see that as a good thing, because the only thing that this aura of invincibility brought to west is degeneration. Like ancient Romans we grew weak, used to the fact that our jobs are done by somebody else, our wives plowed by somebody more eager and our borders will somehow take care of themselves.

West got weak and perhaps only thing that will help to revitalize it - is external threat. Before it collapses upon itself.

Great words. War is not a solution to a problem. We have not given life to millions of people and we can not take it away from them.

Call for war may be the only one who hoped that he had served somewhere in another country and the war can't touch it. Normal people do not want war. How can you wish death to people?