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Quote from: redsun114 on March 18, 2024, 03:45:24 AM

Quote from: zuzie on March 12, 2024, 06:20:31 AM

I think AI technology has a big impact on people who are lazy to think and only rely on AI technology to find answers. In gambling, in my opinion, AI technology currently does not have a significant impact, but whether in the future it will continue to develop and advance, AI technology will also keep up with the times. When it comes to online gambling, is there AI technology that can detect wins and losses in a bet? If there is, in my opinion, gambling will not be more extreme and full of sensation because gamblers can only guess through AI and if it exists, AI will have a big influence on the luck that gamblers will get.

I don't know why some people don't understand that your luck can't be influenced by anything, even AI. An AI model can barely be able to make a correct sports betting prediction, it might only be able to assist you with your research and analysis about a certain sports event that you are willing to bet on, and even then, you will have to recheck all the facts and figures provided by the AI model because they are not perfect, they won't be.

So, I don't think that AI can affect gambling, especially if we talk about gambling games, I don't think any AI model will ever be able to make someone win in a gambling game more often than they usually do because randomly generated results can't be guessed even by AI models, no matter how good an AI is.

Maybe what you say is true, that actually Al cannot predict lucky results in gambling, but perhaps some gamblers who use Al are just trying to find out or help them analyze how gambling actually is with methods or strategies to help make playing easier.
Yes, I don't know, but here it comes back to each individual, do we believe more in the abilities we have or believe more in modern technology which is considered very helpful. and what we really have to understand is that it is the host who decides everything, they can easily make decisions.

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Quote from: redsun114 on March 18, 2024, 03:45:24 AM

So, I don't think that AI can affect gambling, especially if we talk about gambling games, I don't think any AI model will ever be able to make someone win in a gambling game more often than they usually do because randomly generated results can't be guessed even by AI models, no matter how good an AI is.

I didn't think AI can affect luck based games too, AI is advancing the way we do somethings and that's the way it can affect gambling as it'll affect the way we gamble. With AI, artificial reality will be improved and this is how AI is going to influence the gambling industry not with the prediction of games as AI can't predict games currently. AI had been used to try and predict sport games and many of them failed to get it correctly as sports game doesn't depends on data that AI depends on.

Don't trust any game that AI predicted, when it comes to gaming AI can't be more lucky as you. Gambling depends on luck as having more intelligence or experience won't work for you most of the time when gambling and this is the reason why an inexperienced gambler can win big amount of money but an individual that has been gambling for a very long time won't have the luck to win.that big as she's not lucky.

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If AI is correctly valued it will have to alter everything, every aspect of your life in some way. Not just car navigation but everything possible involving data or tasks that enhance usage of that product in some way. Cars are especially relevant because its an expensive product and many mistakes are possible, getting lost is easy with road signs and safety is an issue; AI can improve all those things so its a given.

Gambling also is an expensive product at times, depending how much you gamble but we cannot deny there is alot of money won and lost in gambling its big. Also gambling often involves odds and data and tracking games with sports bets especially. I cannot imagine AI wont find a way to help some people, if you have a product already helping some its only a matter of time before it will be available to help all people at some level.

Could take years not sure but markets expect a world revolution from AI and nothing less.

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Quote from: Vladv26 on March 17, 2024, 12:55:50 AM

I think both gamblers and casinos/sportbooks will try and get some advantage out of the AI technology. The only question is who is going to do it better and faster. Most likely it'll be casinos who can do a faster job since they have a larger amount of funds to invest into it and they are also the ones to set the rules of playing, therefore even if some people manage to find some ways to use AI to increase their chances of winning, casinos will quickly spot that and introduce new rules and regulations on their platforms.

Maybe. But I doubt many people will use an application that relies on AI for gambling purposes. Just like today, it is not really being used for that but mostly like a Google search only to receive faster and more reliable answers.
Considering how much the price would be, I would rather use that money for gambling than risk what could be a waste of money or a good one. We don't know that yet. Chances of the AI just giving us tips and advice will be there but it could never answer an accurate result of betting because it's supposed to be unpredictable. AI is not like a crystal ball that will tell us the future, it just relies on whatever is written on the internet and uses all of that to summarize a game's history and probably the chances only.
When it comes to that, I still believe the human analysis is far better than relying on them. Then there are the instincts of the people that cannot be copied by the AI. Sometimes that's all we need to win a bet.

I think people only see and judge from one side about this AI, they see AI in terms of its sophistication where it is a smart robot that can tell you about various things in the world such as maybe giving you answers to some questions that can give you insight into some things but it also has limits or that means not everything you can rely on AI, and I agree with you that this AI is like Google where you can get information that has been provided by several parties who contribute to google services to make it easier for everyone to do their business.

Yes it is true and in accordance with what I have in mind that most likely AI will only provide some suggestions related to the gambling you are asking but all of that is nothing more than a theory and this system will not be able to provide you with information regarding what will happen in the future, while gambling is always unpredictable because you will only know the actual results when you have completed the session and that means most likely AI will not be able to be an alternative to lead you to victory, it still ultimately refers to luck.

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Quote from: Psynthax on March 16, 2024, 08:33:52 PM

AI not gonna do shit with game that 100% relies on odds but might play a big role to play the game where it requires intelligence to win.
therefore there's no need to worry about someone utilizing AI against you maybe they just utilize the information and thats it.

exactly what is the concern of actuallyit is not about the players but the owner and casino teams in which will be affected once the
AI get into the bets because those games that can be beaten by technology will surely take a big role.

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but i will be waiting the day when there will match of AI vs AI in various game since I know eventually it will be a thing and the one that determine the win
will be how better the AI is created and the data it got trained its gonna be really good match since we are full of AI innovation nowaday in various sector then might as well create a game for them
because it won't hurt seeing AI against AI, i mean people are already kinda enjoying such game these days where they just like to bet from the side as a watcher.
if its gonna be a thing i guess its gonna intrigue many people.

How would that be a better to bet? with AI vs AI games?
meaning is this a game where the best computer programmer will win?

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Quote from: Vladv26 on March 17, 2024, 12:55:50 AM

I think both gamblers and casinos/sportbooks will try and get some advantage out of the AI technology. The only question is who is going to do it better and faster. Most likely it'll be casinos who can do a faster job since they have a larger amount of funds to invest into it and they are also the ones to set the rules of playing, therefore even if some people manage to find some ways to use AI to increase their chances of winning, casinos will quickly spot that and introduce new rules and regulations on their platforms.

Maybe. But I doubt many people will use an application that relies on AI for gambling purposes. Just like today, it is not really being used for that but mostly like a Google search only to receive faster and more reliable answers.
Considering how much the price would be, I would rather use that money for gambling than risk what could be a waste of money or a good one. We don't know that yet. Chances of the AI just giving us tips and advice will be there but it could never answer an accurate result of betting because it's supposed to be unpredictable. AI is not like a crystal ball that will tell us the future, it just relies on whatever is written on the internet and uses all of that to summarize a game's history and probably the chances only.
When it comes to that, I still believe the human analysis is far better than relying on them. Then there are the instincts of the people that cannot be copied by the AI. Sometimes that's all we need to win a bet.

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Quote from: biggerthanawhale on March 06, 2024, 12:43:08 AM

AI has impacted almost all online businesses to major extent. Do you feel that there will be major impact of AI technology on online gambling industry as well ?

Of course.

There will be many business based on gambling AI.

Bots selling tools for gambling that talk to you powered by AI

"signals" created by AI

Websites created by AI to sell you stuff about gambling

Etc.

Many things are already out there.

The most attractive thing for bettors and gamblers is the possible use of Artificial inteligence for the generation of signals. The chatbot interaction and the generation of webpages are already things which we all could picture happening, but the generation of predictions would be the next level, in my opinion.
Regardless of the expectations people have on the artificial Inteligence to literally predict the future, I don't think those signals will be as effective as many people believe they will be.
Nowadays, those who are not as informed may be the impression Artificial inteligence is something close to "magic" when in reality, we are talking about technology and to this day we do not have technology capable of predicting events like sport matches.

I am afraid people will try to sell signals "powered" by Artificial Inteligence, in order to try to take advantage of people's ignorance.

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Quote from: biggerthanawhale on March 06, 2024, 12:43:08 AM

AI has impacted almost all online businesses to major extent. Do you feel that there will be major impact of AI technology on online gambling industry as well ?

Of course.

There will be many business based on gambling AI.

Bots selling tools for gambling that talk to you powered by AI

"signals" created by AI

Websites created by AI to sell you stuff about gambling

Etc.

Many things are already out there.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 12, 2024, 06:20:31 AM

I think AI technology has a big impact on people who are lazy to think and only rely on AI technology to find answers. In gambling, in my opinion, AI technology currently does not have a significant impact, but whether in the future it will continue to develop and advance, AI technology will also keep up with the times. When it comes to online gambling, is there AI technology that can detect wins and losses in a bet? If there is, in my opinion, gambling will not be more extreme and full of sensation because gamblers can only guess through AI and if it exists, AI will have a big influence on the luck that gamblers will get.

I don't know why some people don't understand that your luck can't be influenced by anything, even AI. An AI model can barely be able to make a correct sports betting prediction, it might only be able to assist you with your research and analysis about a certain sports event that you are willing to bet on, and even then, you will have to recheck all the facts and figures provided by the AI model because they are not perfect, they won't be.

So, I don't think that AI can affect gambling, especially if we talk about gambling games, I don't think any AI model will ever be able to make someone win in a gambling game more often than they usually do because randomly generated results can't be guessed even by AI models, no matter how good an AI is.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 17, 2024, 10:02:58 AM

Such a possibility, with the sophistication of AI technology in casino activities, will be very profitable for gamblers, especially those who can really use AI correctly and precisely

And how such sophisticated AIs could lead gamblers into profit? The maximum they can do is to predict the most likely outcome based on statistical previous data, like after ten reds in a row, the AI will predict the next one is going to be black, because it's the scenario with more chances to happen. However, we have already seen long loss streaks which went beyond 16 and even 20 rounds.

I believe when asking for advice from AIs, it will be like asking for right answers for multiple choice questions to Chat GPT. It replies wrongly quite frequently, and once you correct the AI, it just apologizes and changes its mind immediately to corroborate with your assertion, even if you are also wrong about it. There is zero accuracy, so we have to be very careful when taking into consideration what these AIs tell us, especially when there is money involved.

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Quote from: biggerthanawhale on March 06, 2024, 12:43:08 AM

AI has impacted almost all online businesses to major extent. Do you feel that there will be major impact of AI technology on online gambling industry as well ?

Gambling is a very unpredictable venture!!!

And the fact that AI is more likely to use numbers or past statistical results to predict the most likely outcome doesn't make it invisible...and the fact that gamblers have been using this strategy for years and still not come out profitable should tell you that no one is being displaced here!!! It's not called gambling for nothing, and the house would like AI to give it a shot Cool

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Quote from: zuzie on March 16, 2024, 05:24:10 PM

Yes, and of course gamblers, if they use AI technology too often, they will always take advantage of this opportunity instead of wanting to win, but whatever, as time goes by, the casinos will definitely become more suspicious and of course the casinos will find out. that it is impossible to win at gambling. will be easy to get. However, in my opinion, you still have to be careful about this because this is cheating and of course in the future these gamblers will not tend to be lazy in trying to learn to hone their skills just by relying on AI technology continuously.

I think that Artificial Intelligence will be more favorable to the casino as compared to the end user or the gamblers. This of a situation that a gambler is having good luck and he is on a winning streak, the AI deployed casino will notice this and try to change the algothrium of the game so that the gambler loses the next game. This is one gamble, there can be number of other ways where the AI could benefit ths gambling casinos.

Another example is that the casino can use the AI for Fraud Detection and prevention of leakage of any data too. Systemic algorithms can determine user behaviors to flag suspicious activities in real time. This can be one of the best use of AI preventing them from any loss.

For the ordinary gambler, the AI won't be much help because we cannot integrate any AI plugin with the site as we have no rights for this change. We can only use a third party AI based application that can automatically record our wins and losses and suggest to us when to stop and when to continue.

Such a possibility, with the sophistication of AI technology in casino activities, will be very profitable for gamblers, especially those who can really use AI correctly and precisely, but for ordinary gamblers it may still be awkward or not yet perfect in exploring how to do it. using AI technology. they will most likely feel confused and find it difficult to use. Indeed, at least there are special lessons for gamblers if they want to make perfect use of Al.
However, in my opinion, whether this will really run smoothly, there will definitely be obstacles along the way and that clearly happens.

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Quote from: Wexnident on March 16, 2024, 11:31:52 PM

Quote from: biggerthanawhale on March 06, 2024, 12:43:08 AM

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The game itself? I don't think so. All casino games rely on luck (or well, should rely on luck) so even if there was AI in play, they wouldn't necessarily do anything to the game itself. Even if people started relying on AI to check what the bets would result to, they'd just fire off numbers based on probability, statistics and whatnot, nothing too impossible for a human to do if given time. And even then, it's only just numbers, it's not a guarantee whatsoever.

There may be more varieties to be developed if AI can be implemented but I can't exactly see how it would be done so in the first place though. It's just a possibility at this point. Totally different thing with sports though since if given enough data, AI may have the capability to perform simulations, possibly thousands to hundreds of thousands to give out a probable result. I mean in those cases to hell be the history of the team, I can make the AI run that matches X amount of times and they'd give me the team that won the most matches.

Gambling will always be luck-based. But AI? It goes beyond numbers. Its about experience transformation. Rightfully, old approaches are despised. AI's promise to innovate without removing the excitement of gambling brings euphoria.

Sports betting? AI sparkles like a diamond there. Simulations can anticipate events with incredible precision with enough data. Instead of replacing history, it uses it. This goes beyond winning or losing bets. Its about changing gambling and sports betting. The options are boundless and thrilling.

Everything's in the data. AI calculates, not gambles. Gambling is still about the excitement and unpredictability. I assure you, AI will never replace that.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 16, 2024, 05:24:10 PM

Yes, and of course gamblers, if they use AI technology too often, they will always take advantage of this opportunity instead of wanting to win, but whatever, as time goes by, the casinos will definitely become more suspicious and of course the casinos will find out. that it is impossible to win at gambling. will be easy to get. However, in my opinion, you still have to be careful about this because this is cheating and of course in the future these gamblers will not tend to be lazy in trying to learn to hone their skills just by relying on AI technology continuously.

When they used AI technology to helps them, they will gets benefits because they knows what they needs to used in playing gambling. But if the casino realizes that what the gamblers do is breaking their rules, the casino can warning the gamblers not to used AI technology. But if the AI technology is just helps the gamblers to collects the information that they needs, that will not breaks the rules of the casino because the gamblers is not used AI to place a bet. The casino will trying to search for the gamblers that used AI technology to breaks their rules and will not tolerates it when the casino knows it.

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Quote from: Vladv26 on March 17, 2024, 12:55:50 AM

I think both gamblers and casinos/sportbooks will try and get some advantage out of the AI technology. The only question is who is going to do it better and faster. Most likely it'll be casinos who can do a faster job since they have a larger amount of funds to invest into it and they are also the ones to set the rules of playing, therefore even if some people manage to find some ways to use AI to increase their chances of winning, casinos will quickly spot that and introduce new rules and regulations on their platforms.

Yeah, You make a fair point. The house usually wins when it comes to use of artificial intelligence in casinos. They have enough money to develop some really advanced AI systems that tilt the odds in their favor. But AI can cut both ways. The casino might stack the deck, yet clever players could still use AI to cook up some cunning tactics to beat the house odds.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 16, 2024, 05:33:37 PM

Quote from: STT on March 16, 2024, 12:19:32 AM

AI is about convenience and routine tasks performed with computer aid, so we can call it laziness but at some point technology enables those who otherwise would not have a handle on that technology otherwise. If AI is genuine in its development and potential then it will enable society, this is almost the same for any really successful product you will make the millions and billions when you get to a product which anyone can both use, actually afford and then easily benefit from.

Its part of why modern society is so rich even if you are not that well off in a capital way we are all quite lucky in technology. I hope AI becomes part of that and enables some interesting things that have been obscure prior, so that could enable more stats based answers delivered in gambling because thats already been a thing for those who bothered prior, now it may be less effort perhaps.

If AI is being utilized wisely, it can do so much that humans can't do. It will be more efficient and faster if applied accordingly. Of course, there will always be people who will abuse this technology, and so with other advances in tech. But we should look at it in a different perspective.

AI tech is already entering the gambling industry. And I don't think any industry will be an exception from the presence of AI. The influence of this tech depends on what kind of usage it is being used for. Of course, it is exhausted by fraudsters, the impact is negative. But if it is being deployed appropriately, it can be life changing for gamblers like the VR.

AI has developed much better over time and the use of AI has really mushroomed into many things including various digital activities, one of which is online gambling.
Use of AI is actually very helpful for all online business people such as gambling sites or various exchange and trading platforms, from this it can be concluded that AI will really help human work.
But it cannot be denied that there are some people or perhaps many people who misuse technology for AI to gain personal gain and this is clearly something that is quite unfortunate.
Use and perception of AI really depends on each user, but even though AI can be very helpful, there are still some people who don't like it.

Regarding the use of AI on gambling sites as technological tool to help complete human work, I quite agree because this is one of the right uses.
But to be used by them in an effort to win in gambling, to be honest, I don't agree because AI performance can never have any influence on gambling results, and this can only eliminate self-confidence in one abilities.

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I think both gamblers and casinos/sportbooks will try and get some advantage out of the AI technology. The only question is who is going to do it better and faster. Most likely it'll be casinos who can do a faster job since they have a larger amount of funds to invest into it and they are also the ones to set the rules of playing, therefore even if some people manage to find some ways to use AI to increase their chances of winning, casinos will quickly spot that and introduce new rules and regulations on their platforms.

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Quote from: zuzie on March 16, 2024, 05:24:10 PM

Yes, and of course gamblers, if they use AI technology too often, they will always take advantage of this opportunity instead of wanting to win, but whatever, as time goes by, the casinos will definitely become more suspicious and of course the casinos will find out. that it is impossible to win at gambling. will be easy to get. However, in my opinion, you still have to be careful about this because this is cheating and of course in the future these gamblers will not tend to be lazy in trying to learn to hone their skills just by relying on AI technology continuously.

I think that Artificial Intelligence will be more favorable to the casino as compared to the end user or the gamblers. This of a situation that a gambler is having good luck and he is on a winning streak, the AI deployed casino will notice this and try to change the algothrium of the game so that the gambler loses the next game. This is one gamble, there can be number of other ways where the AI could benefit ths gambling casinos.

Another example is that the casino can use the AI for Fraud Detection and prevention of leakage of any data too. Systemic algorithms can determine user behaviors to flag suspicious activities in real time. This can be one of the best use of AI preventing them from any loss.

For the ordinary gambler, the AI won't be much help because we cannot integrate any AI plugin with the site as we have no rights for this change. We can only use a third party AI based application that can automatically record our wins and losses and suggest to us when to stop and when to continue.

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Quote from: biggerthanawhale on March 06, 2024, 12:43:08 AM

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The game itself? I don't think so. All casino games rely on luck (or well, should rely on luck) so even if there was AI in play, they wouldn't necessarily do anything to the game itself. Even if people started relying on AI to check what the bets would result to, they'd just fire off numbers based on probability, statistics and whatnot, nothing too impossible for a human to do if given time. And even then, it's only just numbers, it's not a guarantee whatsoever.

There may be more varieties to be developed if AI can be implemented but I can't exactly see how it would be done so in the first place though. It's just a possibility at this point. Totally different thing with sports though since if given enough data, AI may have the capability to perform simulations, possibly thousands to hundreds of thousands to give out a probable result. I mean in those cases to hell be the history of the team, I can make the AI run that matches X amount of times and they'd give me the team that won the most matches.

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AI not gonna do shit with game that 100% relies on odds but might play a big role to play the game where it requires intelligence to win.
therefore there's no need to worry about someone utilizing AI against you maybe they just utilize the information and thats it.
but i will be waiting the day when there will match of AI vs AI in various game since I know eventually it will be a thing and the one that determine the win
will be how better the AI is created and the data it got trained its gonna be really good match since we are full of AI innovation nowaday in various sector then might as well create a game for them
because it won't hurt seeing AI against AI, i mean people are already kinda enjoying such game these days where they just like to bet from the side as a watcher.
if its gonna be a thing i guess its gonna intrigue many people.

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