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Topic: Is all this manipulation good for Bitcoin? (Read 2890 times)

newbie
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September 18, 2014, 01:12:16 AM
#48
Is the instabilization happening now are caused by this?

BTC price dropped again today. Should we sell? Or what?
member
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Merit: 10
September 16, 2014, 02:44:33 AM
#47
Is the instabilization happening now are caused by this?
full member
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September 09, 2014, 12:39:16 AM
#46
Just a side effect of an unregulated, free market. Enjoy.

I am enjoying. Thanks whales!
newbie
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September 08, 2014, 01:44:47 PM
#45
Just a side effect of an unregulated, free market. Enjoy.
member
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September 08, 2014, 10:18:03 AM
#44
Its just whales doing their thing, thanks to free market.
member
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September 08, 2014, 07:34:59 AM
#43
You want free unregulated market or no? then deal with it.

just chill with it
legendary
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Merit: 1064
September 06, 2014, 10:45:10 AM
#42
I think manipulations are inevitable at this early stage. The crypto currency industry is like a Wild West right now. Maybe when more serious investment companies will join the market, any manipulations on a large scale will be difficult.

The price volatility (maybe caused by market manipulation) is what attracts a lot of people to bitcoin.  Wink
member
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September 06, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
#41
You want free unregulated market or no? then deal with it.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
September 06, 2014, 03:44:12 AM
#40
I think manipulations are inevitable at this early stage. The crypto currency industry is like a Wild West right now. Maybe when more serious investment companies will join the market, any manipulations on a large scale will be difficult.

legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
September 06, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
#39
I don't think the decline related to manipulation of price. If the whale pushed down the price, the face value of their BTc holding would be scraped a lot.
The reason is that as more merchants take BTCayment, the more selling the merchants dump BTC payment to cash fiat in the exchange.
hero member
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September 06, 2014, 01:15:43 AM
#38
I think in future there will be some kind of price control alliance like OPEC in bitcoin world

Those large mining farms and miner producer, they combined together command over 90% of the hash power of the network, thus they could easily make an agreement of never sell below certain price to support the exchange rate, just like OPEC countries control the oil price. This is very important for their business, since if the price going all the way down, their business will be hit hardest
With OPEC and oil, the world generally will consume 90%+ of the oil produced every day. As a result there is very little excess capacity in the oil market.

Bitcoin on the other hand is impossible to "consume" you either hold it or you spend it. When you spend it someone else can do the same.
legendary
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September 05, 2014, 11:00:19 PM
#37
I think in future there will be some kind of price control alliance like OPEC in bitcoin world

Those large mining farms and miner producer, they combined together command over 90% of the hash power of the network, thus they could easily make an agreement of never sell below certain price to support the exchange rate, just like OPEC countries control the oil price. This is very important for their business, since if the price going all the way down, their business will be hit hardest
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full member
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Merit: 100
September 05, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
#36
It's a inevitable phase that bitcoin has to go through. If after this BTC is still alive... We'll see the moon
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 05, 2014, 03:22:39 PM
#35
there is no manipulation currently possible in bitcoin (assuming the exchange doesn't blatantly steal people's money but that's not called manipulation but outright theft).
unlike gold there is no such thing as paper bitcoin, if you sell bitcoin then you sell bitcoin, no way to sell future contracts for bitcoins you don't have to push the price down.

there is nothing wrong with whales selling bitcoin, its their right to do with it whatever they want.
every whale no matter how big will eventually run out of bitcoin to sell and will have to buy/earn them back to sell again.
hero member
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Time is on our side, yes it is!
September 05, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
#34
I won't be spending BTC at a loss (under $1250), so keep manipulating it down and no business will ever get mine.

I can dig it and well said.  This is why I'm bullish even right now.  People just don't get this is how weak hands are taken out of the game.  Even though it happens time and time again.  It almost makes me want to scream "hello this is nothing new and we've been here before, open your eyes"!!
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1064
September 04, 2014, 11:04:57 AM
#33
So what just happened? price went up from $470 to $495 like in few sec..

It lasted for 3 days at $470 levels... A breakout was bound to happen.  Tongue
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 04, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
#32
So what just happened? price went up from $470 to $495 like in few sec..
member
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Merit: 10
September 04, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
#31
What we see now as big manipulations will be seen as market noise in years.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 04, 2014, 01:13:24 AM
#30
Ethereum is the big whale selling for the last few weeks. They are simply cashing out and not "manipulating" the price down.

In fact, they are better off if the price stay high so they can sell more.

They did not raise bitcoins to benefit from price movements. They raised bitcoins so that development expenses can be paid. So I guess they have to sell at regular intervals.
This is true. Also the amount of bitcoin that they sold was very small when compared to the total amount of bitcoin traded on the market during the crash, and IMO had little/nothing to do with the price declines a few weeks ago.
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 04, 2014, 12:56:02 AM
#29
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