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September 11, 2017, 05:50:23 AM
I wouldn't say that, it's too hard statement. But the fact is that America has special status comparing to other states in the world and maybe US citizens live in some kind of cloud. Because of that it sometimes looks that this is the state you simply can't destory and that is going to last forever but it's actually fragile like all others. But the worlds' politics will always keep it under water and US debts will probably never be paid.
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September 11, 2017, 05:38:15 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.

I'd rather say it is arguably right

It doesn't really matter if Murrica is technically the largest debtor on the block. We should always face the facts without bias or prejudice (at least, as much as possible). And the first fact is that the US national debt is denominated in the same US dollars that the US government (the Fed, more specifically) happens to print. So this debt is entirely nominal. The second fact is that this debt (at least, the part which is held by foreign holders like the Gulf sheikhs, Japanese banks, Russian oligarchs, and Chinese nouveaux riches, to name a few) is not a debt at all. It is in fact a sort of toll that these nations pay to Murrica for being allowed to be what they are. It is just a handy and useful misnomer but we are not to be deceived into that shit, right?
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September 09, 2017, 12:14:11 PM
America isn't as great as it used to be. The government is rotting on the inside, racism is still there, a large percentage of the population is incarcerated and many more. I think the only thing America could be proud of is it's top-notch education and it's military might.

Actually America is doing great. Yes there is a whole circus going on around Trump, but the country is functioning, GDP is growing and unemployment falling.

The design of their constitution is genius, with many centres of power and a lot done at state and city level. So it really doesn't matter who is president, the whole thing just carries on.

In a way it's a anti-fragile nation - you can't break it.
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September 09, 2017, 12:11:25 PM
I think since the new guy it will be failing in a lot of things but in the side of economics it will stay high like bitcoin.
Well you are right mate because it is a well developed country and it is making more and more developments because it is now the words most popular country and the use of the bitcoin is higher in America than in another country so I think as the bitcoin taking progress the country is getting more popular and it is not going to drop ever and never going to be failed.
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September 08, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
It was based on slavery from the getgo when it revolted against England  only one state barred slavery Rhode Island So 12 of the original states had slaves.

This flag meant slavery for more then  697,000 of 3,900,000  people.


"The U.S. Census of 1790 was our first census. 3,929,326 people - - 697,681 were slaves. That's almost 18%. But the 1780s were the peak decade for the African slave trade with Great Britain as the number one trader, so there would have been fewer slaves in 1776"

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I would say it was a nation based on hypocrisy from the get-go


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This is a fact that America is nation that is full of hypocrisy, they have been ruining world since they become super power. They have put every nation on fire and are just creating chaos in the world to the time they have came on the world map. I wish they just stop doing shit and start practicing peace.
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September 08, 2017, 10:03:52 AM
America isn't as great as it used to be. The government is rotting on the inside, racism is still there, a large percentage of the population is incarcerated and many more. I think the only thing America could be proud of is it's top-notch education and it's military might.
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September 08, 2017, 09:56:33 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.

America is not a debtor? Because that's demonstrably wrong. America is one of, if not the biggest, debtor nation in the world. America has a chronic inability to balance its budget, necessitating borrowing money from people, institutions and nations that have surplus money and are looking for a "safe" place to park them to mitigate inflationary risks. In no possible sense can America be said not to be a debtor.
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September 08, 2017, 09:29:23 AM
I think california and texas have both petitioned to secede from the united states over the last year. There are undoubtedly states who wish to split from the USA the way the UK split from the EU. That's one potential way america could become a failed nation if those states which pay greater revenue into the federal system than they receive from the federal government in the form of grants, welfare, subsidies, etcetera decide they're better off on their own.

The federal government being $20 trillion in debt is another potentially devastating blow which could eventually cause the USA to fail the way the USSR failed when it defaulted on debt.

America's traditional values are things like freedom of speech, innovation, individualism, right to bear arms. In many ways the united states has embraced the opposite of what its traditional values once were. That's another potential way the USA could become a failed nation.
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September 08, 2017, 09:27:03 AM
you are really joking,most of the country leaders send their sons daughters and wives to america for studying,living etc.why dont they stay in their own country?people tend to earn money in their own country and spend in America.in their eyes ,America is the heaven in the earth.
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September 08, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?

United States of America is the number 1 famous in the world, America also is the most largest financer of the army tools all over the world, America is the debtor nation, all I know is America is a Great nation But now they are fast going down. They are experiencing economy crisis. Yes I do believe that since obama control the government he do not care for it rather he ruined everything. Today they are starting again to rise up. I think they can recover but not absolutely they can try to come back again as Great America before.
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September 08, 2017, 08:56:18 AM
It was based on slavery from the getgo when it revolted against England  only one state barred slavery Rhode Island So 12 of the original states had slaves.

This flag meant slavery for more then  697,000 of 3,900,000  people.


"The U.S. Census of 1790 was our first census. 3,929,326 people - - 697,681 were slaves. That's almost 18%. But the 1780s were the peak decade for the African slave trade with Great Britain as the number one trader, so there would have been fewer slaves in 1776"

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I would say it was a nation based on hypocrisy from the get-go


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September 08, 2017, 08:50:23 AM
I think since the new guy it will be failing in a lot of things but in the side of economics it will stay high like bitcoin.
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September 08, 2017, 07:12:06 AM
Ridiculously, she is not a debtor, she can bankrupt a minimum of 50 countries, which allocated funds for help. The country with the most developed economy, even the dollar when there was still no euro, was the main currency of many countries. But the points of view of aggression and submission to oneself, this is its worst quality.
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September 08, 2017, 06:58:52 AM
It seems to me that in the OP says envy. America has no national identity. This is a nation of immigrants, but due to the fact that they provide the best conditions for specialists they hold in their hands the whole world and concentrate on its territory the world's brains.
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September 08, 2017, 06:30:34 AM
If everybody is saying the country is a failed state or a dead one, then every other countries in the world must have been buried then. I am not a citizen of the united states but when it comes to checking the excesses of other sates, American is at the forefront not that they are saints but if you consider the intricacies of other countries in some aspects, then you realize that America is still standing tall in the face of several challenges.
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September 08, 2017, 06:10:24 AM
This country is dead, with a dead politic and a dead economy. They make their money by spreading the war, stealing others nations and lying to the population

The US might resurrect itself with the embracement of the bitcoin. There are many users there.
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August 31, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
I dont think so. America always protecting its interest whatever transaction or deal they are making.Military wise, they are superpower.Smaller nations look after him.
They are protecting their self because they interest in invest their money and deal with their making as well their economic. The military is not strong but they supply their military to become superpower country than the strong country like china and Russia. I don't American is failed in economic in their government today.
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August 31, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
YES:

USA largest debtor nation in history of human species
Obamacare ruined everything
Federeal reserve
0% rates
Eventual economic collapse or hyperinflation

NO:

Largest military ever not going down without a fight
NSA is spying on everyone



What do you guys think?


Well, in terms of having lots of problems we sure are the winner for that.

Record debt, record bad economy, many people are under-employed. etc.

BUT, since we are such an economic powerhouse, we could get out of this debt.

Unforuntately, we have spent too much, that has to be controlled, many things need to be cut/slashed from government service or we will go bankrupt, and than EVERYTHING would have to be cut in that case.

We have to cut some things now so that we can havea ANYTHING later.
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August 31, 2017, 11:26:48 AM
How can America be a failed nation? If that's true then the rest of the other countries are twice as much failures. Every country has debt and there are procedures in servicing those debts so if America owes more than the rest it doesn't mean they are failures. In fact they are ahead of the rest in terms of development with all those debts.

America already sets the bar high. They are still the number 1 economic superpower. And financially, they are helping other nations as well. So I think they are not failed nation. There may be some problems internally with them, but I don't think it totally affects USA as a whole. So for me, they are not a failed nation on the contrary, they are a role model for developing countries.
Absolutely right! I think America has set standards or even it serves as a role model for every nation along and all over the world. In different aspects they serve as the head for all the countries, and been helping other nations in times of needs and troubles. In economic terms also they lead, but so far so many issues are involved with them.

I can't think of this thread of the poster that America a failed nation because what in the hell the number one super power country when it comes to military force be a failed nation then how much more the 2nd to the last ranking military power so they are more failure than the number one?

You can't really tell if they are really in debt or what because you are not the treasurer of the united states maybe they are just showing that they are in debt for a political purpose to show that they are in trouble were the truth is not really, mind games in their part I think.
Whatever the reality is why the heck we are discussing America here? Even if they are in debt, that’s none of our problem. They are indeed failed in maintaining peace around the globe rather is involved in pushing people in wars. I don’t have statistics about their financial status, so can’t give any statement.
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August 31, 2017, 01:52:27 AM

Things do look abysmal with how things are going currently and the path we seem to be taking, over the decades we made so much progress and it seems we've taken a wrong turn. I don't think we're a failed nation though because we see a lot of resistance to status quo now and people are saying, 'THIS ISN'T RIGHT!' marching and protesting on the street too. So I think there will be a rebound from all of this.
Talking about a Super Power country, it is never appreciated to say this thing that America is a failed nation. Ups and downs come on each and every country, but learning from your previous mistakes makes you a great nation.
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