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Quote from: ajaxmoor on February 05, 2017, 10:29:55 PM

I personally boycoitt any betsoft implenting site. Their bj wouldn't be any different than their other games which are definitely rigged. Do note that Blackjack can also be rigged despite being provably fair.

Provably fair is to the players, some gambling websites can manipulate the result, there were so many such scam sites since 2013, some sites stole the house fund, they claimed hacker did it. But actually it is the site owner did it.

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I personally boycoitt any betsoft implenting site. Their bj wouldn't be any different than their other games which are definitely rigged. Do note that Blackjack can also be rigged despite being provably fair.

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Yes, Betcoin.ag scam! plus Betsoft scam gaming software = rigged blackjack! This is simple math! Wink

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 05, 2017, 06:49:13 PM

Quote from: Skarner21 on February 05, 2017, 06:10:28 PM

They are already tested by many gamblers and honestly many complaining about their games of betsoft last year there is a game from one of the gambling site here that someone win a huge amount from a new games release and we do not know honestly the bug instead of paying the exact winning amount they paid only the partial and betsoft owner or maker are giving apology that honestly there are fraudulent happen..
So be careful with their games that is why betking remove those games in his site and only dice game is there..

BETSOFT was busted years before that of running a rigged keno game. The video is on youtube.

They also refused to pay slot jackpot for huge money, betsoft looks scam, I think you guys should never play blackjack of betsoft product.

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Quote from: Skarner21 on February 05, 2017, 06:10:28 PM

They are already tested by many gamblers and honestly many complaining about their games of betsoft last year there is a game from one of the gambling site here that someone win a huge amount from a new games release and we do not know honestly the bug instead of paying the exact winning amount they paid only the partial and betsoft owner or maker are giving apology that honestly there are fraudulent happen..
So be careful with their games that is why betking remove those games in his site and only dice game is there..

BETSOFT was busted years before that of running a rigged keno game. The video is on youtube.

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Massive price drop coming...

They are already tested by many gamblers and honestly many complaining about their games of betsoft last year there is a game from one of the gambling site here that someone win a huge amount from a new games release and we do not know honestly the bug instead of paying the exact winning amount they paid only the partial and betsoft owner or maker are giving apology that honestly there are fraudulent happen..
So be careful with their games that is why betking remove those games in his site and only dice game is there..

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Quote from: NiceSoft12 on February 05, 2017, 02:37:21 PM

I've played over 5000 hands on it and it probably has around 50.4-50.6% edge.

I agree... RIGGED!

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I've played over 5000 hands on it and it probably has around 50.4-50.6% edge.

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 03, 2017, 07:13:49 AM

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Quote from: Cloudbet on September 25, 2015, 08:08:26 AM

Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
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But there is no way to verify you are telling the truth and you have the ability to change the odds in your favor for any game. Make your games provably fair and then tell us it is fair. What regulations are you following? Who has audited your website? Where is your gambling certification to operate in my country? Because you can't operate without one. And they will review your website.

Betsoft has been busted in the past rigging their games. They are as shady as they come.

its not only blackack but all ames on betsoft sure. dont play

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Quote from: fox19891989 on September 03, 2015, 12:39:14 PM

How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged? Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

Of coarse the return is not high otherwise they will be handing out free money. How can you tell from playing so few games that it is rigged or not ! That's not nresrlly enough of an evaluation. These games should be tested by a company that publically tests gambling games to verify them or not.

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Quote from: bytezero on September 25, 2015, 08:31:14 AM

Quote from: Cloudbet on September 25, 2015, 08:08:26 AM

Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

But there is no way to verify you are telling the truth and you have the ability to change the odds in your favor for any game. Make your games provably fair and then tell us it is fair. What regulations are you following? Who has audited your website? Where is your gambling certification to operate in my country? Because you can't operate without one. And they will review your website.

Betsoft has been busted in the past rigging their games. They are as shady as they come.

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Quote from: Cloudbet on September 25, 2015, 08:08:26 AM

Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

But there is no way to verify you are telling the truth and you have the ability to change the odds in your favor for any game. Make your games provably fair and then tell us it is fair. What regulations are you following? Who has audited your website? Where is your gambling certification to operate in my country? Because you can't operate without one. And they will review your website.

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Well, if they are bitcoin based you can't trust nobody then.

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Quote from: fox19891989 on September 03, 2015, 12:39:14 PM

How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged? Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

Yes it is. You have the ability to change the odds inside the script to earn 80% of the money gambled. I contacted betsoft and they told me. If the websites are not regulated by your country legislation and no one verifies them then they are scamming you.

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Quote from: Cloudbet on September 25, 2015, 08:08:26 AM

Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

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Betsoft games and RNG have been through a rigorous test and certification process to ensure that the games are fair. They are not "provably fair" but they are definitely fair.

At Cloudbet we carry Betsoft RNG blackjack games, but also a live dealer offering. You can speak with the dealer to ensure the games are delivered in realtime, and the pit boss will display all cards to the players when they are changed so you can be certain that the games are fair.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

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Of course its rigged how else would the casinos survive if you dont have stupid ass mugs to play.

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Everyone as long as win thinks it is fair and when looses first thought what comes in mind is may be it was rigged.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 24, 2015, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: fox19891989 on September 03, 2015, 11:13:48 PM

Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt. Cheesy

The rigging is done by Proprietary Rigging Software backed by High Level Artificial Intelligence. It detects that you are a highroller (yes, right before you even sign up) and makes the first bet a win. So the player's psychology approves the site, and he will always be tempted to make another bet and another and another... till all his funds become theirs. Cool

jk. Not meant to be taken seriously./size]

Well explained and I will add little more by saying on almost many site at start you just win quite few hands till they win your trust and after that suddenly boom and you always end at loss if you don't stop after few hands.

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Quote from: fox19891989 on September 03, 2015, 11:13:48 PM

lmao, I bet on betcoin, betting limit is from 1mbtc - 5000mbtc, if you wanna play there, I can send the link to you by PM, if you can be my downline, I can offer rakeback and lossback to you.

I played 3 large hands there, i won twice for 3 btc per hand, lost 1 hand, I think should be fair, not rigged, if it is rigged, I can easily lose 3 hands.

If you really did win a big amount like that on this software then no longer play again. Find a different provider for blackjack because like I say it is very shady of Betsoft not to provide your complete hand history to customer. Any reputable casino/provider will send you a text file of your hand history. Not always easy to read but they will give you the data. Go ahead try to ask betcoin and see if they will obtain your history of hands from Betsoft. If they do that is great the casino I play at says its not possible. Therefore I will not play this again because I'd like to analyze my play and check data myself for irregularities because now I have logged thousands of hands on this software blackjack and I tell you something seems way off. I expect to lose long-term but fact is I've lost several btc on small bets at this and when I do hit a run it wont last long and dealer always goes to beast mode until all the chips are gone. I enjoy playing blackjack but what I don't enjoy is getting cheated by rigged software.

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