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hero member
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September 24, 2015, 01:11:39 PM
#25
lmao, I bet on betcoin, betting limit is from 1mbtc - 5000mbtc, if you wanna play there, I can send the link to you by PM, if you can be my downline, I can offer rakeback and lossback to you.

I played 3 large hands there,  i won twice for 3 btc per hand, lost 1 hand, I think should be fair, not rigged, if it is rigged, I can easily lose 3 hands.

LOL you are stupid for someone that bet big btc. Just because you win that doesnt win it is not rigged and even if it is rigged they will not rig everyone because they need winner too or no one will be playing there anymore LOL
legendary
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September 24, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
#24
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

The rigging is done by Proprietary Rigging Software backed by High Level Artificial Intelligence. It detects that you are a highroller (yes, right before you even sign up) and makes the first bet a win. So the player's psychology approves the site, and he will always be tempted to make another bet and another and another... till all his funds become theirs.  Cool

jk. Not meant to be taken seriously./size]
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September 24, 2015, 12:56:42 PM
#23
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

This is so stupid...because you won 3btc suddenly its fair when you questioned it in the first place. Where are you able to bet 3btc on the betsoft single deck game because where I've seen it the limits are 1-100mbtc. I've never seen anywhere that has high limits on this game.  

I've been playing this alot lately and I'm really starting to question myself if its legit. Being single deck with decent rules to the player the house edge is a mere .33% yet somehow playing perfect basic strategy I'm down several BTC and remember the limits are only 100mbtc maximum bet. I mostly bet in the 5-20 chip range. Now I don't always lose I do come out ahead on some sessions but it goes into some beast modes where you won't make any hands and when you do dealer will always draw out to 20-21 and have many blackjacks.

I'm done playing anymore Betsoft table games because I suspect somethings not right and it rigs the deal. I've been playing online blackjack for 15 years and overall I expect to lose of course but its how this game accomplishes you losing in such a fast manner when it goes into its beast mode. It's done it far to often where I deposit .5-1btc and the game goes into rage mode and eats your balance up quickly.

Try betsoft single deck in fun mode and many times you will win so quickly so easy then try it many hands also in real mode and you tell me its not rigged. Cheesy

I will stick to the microgaming single deck blackjack even though I don't like the european no hole card it also has better odds because dealer doesn't hit soft 17.

lmao, I bet on betcoin, betting limit is from 1mbtc - 5000mbtc, if you wanna play there, I can send the link to you by PM, if you can be my downline, I can offer rakeback and lossback to you.

I played 3 large hands there,  i won twice for 3 btc per hand, lost 1 hand, I think should be fair, not rigged, if it is rigged, I can easily lose 3 hands.
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September 24, 2015, 12:24:08 PM
#22
Yeah I'm definitely done with these blackjack games because I've never been denied getting a hand history file from gaming sites when I've requested and betsoft will not distribute the hands to the player unless there is an error. What exactly are they trying to hide?  Huh I requested my hand history from the casino I play at these games and they deny me access because the game provider will not give to customer lol. Well that about tells me they may be rigging the blackjack or they would be transparent and provide if customer wanted.
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September 24, 2015, 12:10:50 PM
#21
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

This is so stupid...because you won 3btc suddenly its fair when you questioned it in the first place. Where are you able to bet 3btc on the betsoft single deck game because where I've seen it the limits are 1-100mbtc. I've never seen anywhere that has high limits on this game.  

I've been playing this alot lately and I'm really starting to question myself if its legit. Being single deck with decent rules to the player the house edge is a mere .33% yet somehow playing perfect basic strategy I'm down several BTC and remember the limits are only 100mbtc maximum bet. I mostly bet in the 5-20 chip range. Now I don't always lose I do come out ahead on some sessions but it goes into some beast modes where you won't make any hands and when you do dealer will always draw out to 20-21 and have many blackjacks.

I'm done playing anymore Betsoft table games because I suspect somethings not right and it rigs the deal. I've been playing online blackjack for 15 years and overall I expect to lose of course but its how this game accomplishes you losing in such a fast manner when it goes into its beast mode. It's done it far to often where I deposit .5-1btc and the game goes into rage mode and eats your balance up quickly.

Try betsoft single deck in fun mode and many times you will win so quickly so easy then try it many hands also in real mode and you tell me its not rigged. Cheesy

I will stick to the microgaming single deck blackjack even though I don't like the european no hole card it also has better odds because dealer doesn't hit soft 17.
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September 03, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
#20
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

LOL WHAT?

Just because you won one hand, doesn't mean the site is rigged.  I've won large amounts on sites that are totally unfair - they have to let you win some time, so you keep playing.... Roll Eyes

LOL, i won't keep playing cause I just wanna make easy money since I lost big bet on US Open, I lost 5btc in first round parlay, damn unlucky so many good players lost the match in round 1 and 2.

So I am still down 1.7btc now, (-5+3+0.3---0.3 was won from other bets = -1.7BTC)
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September 03, 2015, 11:27:15 PM
#19
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy

LOL WHAT?

Just because you won one hand, doesn't mean the site is rigged.  I've won large amounts on sites that are totally unfair - they have to let you win some time, so you keep playing.... Roll Eyes
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September 03, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
#18
Hi, guys, i bet 3btc in one hand, and I won it!!!!!!!!!!!  I think it is fair cause if it is rigged so I can't win a big bet.

This game must be fair, and betsoft is one of the best supplier, no doubt.   Cheesy
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September 03, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
#17
How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

What did I just read? You will consider it fair if you win a lot in one hand and won't otherwise? Cheesy
You stupid casino people let me win! If not then you're rigged!

No, I mean online casino can manipulate the result if you bet large per hand, it is not like real casino. So big bets won't win if they are rigged.
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
#16
I tend to not play blackjack online at all. Even Nitrogensports recently had a lot of speculation about being rigged. And its hard to know despite being provably fair. Nitrogen is provably fair but despite that people seem to complain about it.

Did those people provide any proof?

No, Right? So, you're going to believe a bunch of sore losers, who can't accept their losses. Besides thats pretty common in the gambling industry.
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September 03, 2015, 02:09:54 PM
#15
How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

What did I just read? You will consider it fair if you win a lot in one hand and won't otherwise? Cheesy
You stupid casino people let me win! If not then you're rigged!
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September 03, 2015, 02:04:15 PM
#14
I tend to not play blackjack online at all. Even Nitrogensports recently had a lot of speculation about being rigged. And its hard to know despite being provably fair. Nitrogen is provably fair but despite that people seem to complain about it.
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September 03, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
#13
Don't gamble unless it's provably fair, and don't trust provably fair systems unless you follow all the necessary steps to do so.
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
#12
so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

Fair has nothing to do with winning or losing the bet though. The "fair" words in the Industry standard around here means that the ability for you to check your own bet and verify the house doesnt cheat you which is why provably fair is totally the standard around here

Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing?

Code , possibly No but server seed yes but still better than none provably fair site without the ability to verify your own bet

Don't trust any online gambling service

So why are you even bother posting in this section? Everything in this section is online gambling though  Cheesy

but you could verify that the casino is lying by taking note of the client and server seed and the nonce.

Another note, change your client seed frequently.
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
#11
Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing? Don't trust any online gambling service... It's like playing a computerized slot machine in a real casino...
That is incorrect.

The casino could not pay you, but you could verify that the casino is lying by taking note of the client and server seed and the nonce.

Some fishy dice casinos in the past skipped nonces and players lost their money, they were discovered and ran with all the money.
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September 03, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
#10
Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing? Don't trust any online gambling service... It's like playing a computerized slot machine in a real casino...

They obviously can. For example on some sites owners might rig rolls for people who don't ever bother to change their seeds while betting each time , but if they are identified, they will not have any reputation and people will likely never play on it.
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September 03, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
#9
Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing? Don't trust any online gambling service... It's like playing a computerized slot machine in a real casino...

On provably fair sites, the gamblers could and should always verify their bets. If they notice something doesn't match, such as nonce skipping on dicebitco.in, they will know the site is scamming.
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September 03, 2015, 01:00:24 PM
#8
Even if a site says 'provably fair', can't they just alter some code without anyone knowing? Don't trust any online gambling service... It's like playing a computerized slot machine in a real casino...
legendary
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September 03, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
#7
How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.

I don't think the BJ house edge is actually 0.2 to 0.3%. More like more than triple that. At least that is what I thought..

I think that depends on the number of decks involved.

How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.
I have read about ways how casinos can make it rigged by setting it up in a way that user who doesn't change his seed might lose many hands in the start and his bets will be provably fair. Maybe you cna try changing your seed and do the test again.

I don't think we can change our seed on betsoft BJ, cause they don't show us fairness of the game, and we can't verify it. So i can't change my seed.

If thats the case then there is no reason to be playing on the site. Doubting a site which is not provably fair is not worth wasting time on.
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September 03, 2015, 12:50:28 PM
#6
How do you think? I played betsoft single deck blackjack but the expected return is not high, I followed the basic strategy to play, so the expected return of single deck BJ should be 99.7%-99.8%(house edge lower than 0.3%)

Any guys have experience on betsoft BJ? Is it rigged?  Cause we can't verify by ourselves, so I think they may be rigged, unless I won many btc in ONE hand so I will consider it is fair.
I have read about ways how casinos can make it rigged by setting it up in a way that user who doesn't change his seed might lose many hands in the start and his bets will be provably fair. Maybe you cna try changing your seed and do the test again.

I don't think we can change our seed on betsoft BJ, cause they don't show us fairness of the game, and we can't verify it. So i can't change my seed.
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