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April 21, 2018, 01:12:39 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
Being trustless is nice, but how would I go about buying an online item if I can't trust that it won't arrive broken and that I can never get my money back? So then there will always have to be employees from whatever website to be able to handle claims and escrow reliably...which means if they go against you, you don't really have an option to go to a bank to get your money back (not that a bank is even helpful with that either).

I strongly agree on your opinion that, being trustless is nice, but how would I go about buying an online item if I can't trust that it won't arrive broken and that I can never get my money back? So then there will always have to be employees from whatever website to be able to handle claims and escrow reliably. And adding also my opinion that, i'm okay with whatever system we have got, I mean it is all right with me if I gotta stay a little longer to receive and send the payment. In addition, Let's all wait for lightning network and for sure bitcoin's going to be the best payment system of all or if most are using Segwit wallets, everyone would agree that it is. On the otherhand, transaction fees and time are definitely longer than bank/PayPal transfers, but they're definitely not as expensive and as slow as you're implying.
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April 21, 2018, 01:12:11 AM
it is still too slow, the alts like ETH are now better
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April 21, 2018, 01:10:05 AM
its depend on purpose ... because its cant be refund able and its take time but its have advantages too

Refunds are perfectly possible with Bitcoin. In this case it doesn't depend on Bitcoin itself, but the applications being used as payment gateway. BitPay, which is the most popular payment gateway right now, allows refunds too. These applications can be tweaked to such extent, that merchants can have as much freedom to issue different sorts of refunds as possible.

People for some reason think that Bitcoin is an ancient piece of technology not being capable of much, that I definitely have noticed throughout the years. LN will be the next big thing, and possibly THE killer application people were desperately waiting for to show up. It doesn't only offer Bitcoin the currency centric features it needs to move further and stimulate usage, but it also allows for a more flexible form of scalability. Merchants at some point won't even need to use payment gateways anymore, especially if the price becomes a notch or two more stable; they are their own payment gateway.
I strongly agree with your opinion that refunds are perfectly possible with bitcoin.
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April 21, 2018, 01:01:19 AM
bitcoin can make it easy to make any transaction from anywhere without having to bother involving a third party. for users of bitcoin payment cryptocurrency is a better payment system than other types of payments, but for most people who do not know bitcoin, they certainly do not think that payment using bitcoin is not an easy thing to use.
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when you are fed up transfer your crypto to me
April 21, 2018, 01:00:47 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
Being trustless is nice, but how would I go about buying an online item if I can't trust that it won't arrive broken and that I can never get my money back? So then there will always have to be employees from whatever website to be able to handle claims and escrow reliably...which means if they go against you, you don't really have an option to go to a bank to get your money back (not that a bank is even helpful with that either).

Yes somehow we will have to checkmate activities to avoid fraudulent act.
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April 21, 2018, 12:56:44 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
If the bitcoin was able to maintain his consistency, not do not may people are turning to online payment systems for bitcoin going forward.
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April 21, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
Bitcoin community is close to merchant-friendly payment system, if people generally agree to continue the work, but it becomes the specification for the payment of bitcoin, it is important for both traders and customers, So Bitcoin is a good payment system.
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April 21, 2018, 12:48:59 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).

I believe so. It is probably because of the fact that bitcoin runs through the use of the internet, and we are all aware that almost everything these days is incorporated by the internet, such as shopping, booking system, classes, etc. Therefore, it is a guarantee that using bitcoin as a payment method will be successful.
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April 21, 2018, 12:41:32 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).


if you compare bitcoin with real money in transactions, it's obvious bitcoin is better. but in some bitcoin state is blocked. so for now bitcoin is not the best payment.
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April 21, 2018, 12:34:07 AM
Of course, Bitcoin is a better paid system, because bitcoin is more popular and thriving is not the currency of a country, and bitcoin allows you to send any amount to anyone, And it is very useful in people's lives, I hope people will immediately switch to using bitcoin for the future.
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April 21, 2018, 12:30:41 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
the possibility of bitcoin being a good payment because it is practical, fast and not difficult but if bitcoin is already valid as the currency that applies in your country of course if it can be the applicable currency of course bitcoin easy in access
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MoonDeFi
April 21, 2018, 12:30:09 AM
Bitcoin is the biggest coin in cryptocurrency, I prefer to trade with ETH rather than Bitcoin, so many people use ETH transactions and many people feel the comfort of it all.
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April 21, 2018, 12:28:49 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).

With fiat money? no.

Considering the transaction fees, purchasing would cost a little more than the actual price. But you're right about it to be adopted by several companies to further broaden it's potential.

For many computer literate people the use of bitcoin for transaction is really convenient and easy but majority aren't capable of comprehending how bitcoin works.

Indeed, same thought with you. Bitcoin price can affecting fee transaction and when bitcoin price become high, transaction fee become more expensive than using banks. But maybe when bitcoin price high, we can using another cryptocurrency with lower price for our transaction
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April 21, 2018, 12:28:02 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
Bitcoin will become the payment method when the value is more stable! Currently, mainly for exchange, but big price fluctuations and transaction costs are affecting Bitcoin and digital money.
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April 21, 2018, 12:26:02 AM
I guess it's not bitcoin for better payouts
for the payment as well as its use ripple transaction fee is cheaper and faster
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April 21, 2018, 12:22:47 AM
Of course not! Many coins are developing, as are the scams, and quite interesting.For example.Now I’m watching for Marinecoín.The project is reborn with a large community and new technologies (dev-less, self sustaining, machine to machine, artificial intelligence).Fair distribution  occurs also with the help of proof of promotion.The coin has yet one home exchange, but after the distribution there will be a lot of interesting. The coin has an interesting value.
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April 21, 2018, 12:21:43 AM
of course bitcoin is a better payment system because we get five benefits by using bitcoin as a means of payment.
1. more secure
with bitcoin will not find a problem like losing money because of being stolen or a credit card burglary, because this bitcoin is a virtual currency that is stored virtually with encryption protection
2. does not require intermediaries
transactions will be directly processed and recorded disistem blockchain, transactions can be resolved without going through the banks and other financial institutions that deal with international financial transactions.
3. reach out to everyone, whenever and wherever
bitcoin can be accessed and used by anyone, anytime and anywhere.
4. apply anywhere
bitcoin can be used as a means of payment in all regions of the world.
5. bitcoin owner as the control holder.
jr. member
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April 21, 2018, 12:13:35 AM
Of course yes. But the best in all concurrency? Better then real money? No.I think that better payment system is earth.
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April 21, 2018, 12:01:36 AM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).

If compared with current payment system controlled by banks and other financial institutes, BTC is a much better option. As BTC lets you send any amount of money to anyone, anywhere and most importantly at any time. These features only limited to BTC only. If you don't believe in BTC, try sending money on Sunday  Wink
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April 20, 2018, 11:51:52 PM
The answer is that it often is not, at least for most people, most of the time. Eventually it will be the best payment system, but it needs to develop further, gain more adoption, and get over the scaling obstacles. Even so, Bitcoin is already the best payment system for certain use-cases, such as sending money across borders, or receiving money from someone you don't trust (which helps further in cross-border transactions).
for now my country has not been able to make payments because the government has not formalized bitcoin as a legitimate currency to make a sale and purchase, if indeed it could be of course a good toolkit payment and of course
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